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		<title>Aussie ISP Wants to Ban P2P Traffic on Off-Peak Hours</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DrewWilson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it comes to Australian ISP stories, Australia isn&#8217;t exactly void of a number of horror stories.  Things like particularly low monthly bandwidth caps and only being able to download during certain hours of the day to name a couple comes to mind.  Now, one Australian ISP wants to further push out all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>When it comes to Australian ISP stories, Australia isn&#8217;t exactly void of a number of horror stories.  Things like particularly low monthly bandwidth caps and only being able to download during certain hours of the day to name a couple comes to mind.  Now, one Australian ISP wants to further push out all forms of p2p traffic by banning that traffic during &#8220;off-peak&#8221; hours.</h3>
<p>The news comes from <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/152108,exetel-plans-to-ban-p2p-during-off-peak-period.aspx" target="_blank">IT News Australia</a> where they cite <a href="http://johnl.blogs.exetel.com.au/index.php?/archives/2794-If-At-The-First,-Second,-Third,-Nth-Time-You-Dont-Succeed......html" target="_blank">an Exetel company posting</a> which explains the plan.</p>
<p>&#8220;We will simply ban P2P traffic in the 12 midnight to 2 am period if the user elects to make that an &#8216;off peak&#8217; period.&#8221; John Linton <a href="http://johnl.blogs.exetel.com.au/index.php?/archives/2794-If-At-The-First,-Second,-Third,-Nth-Time-You-Dont-Succeed......html#c5773" target="_blank">explains</a>, &#8220;The penalty for selecting that period as &#8216;free&#8217; and then using it for P2P downloads will be the removal of the free period completely for that customer or termination of the service.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Unlike every one of our competitors (or at least I assume this is the case) we have never been concerned about making as much money as possible from providing our services &#8211; we have always been driven by the objective of providing the best possible value. One way of doing this is to make use of the &#8216;dead&#8217; bandwidth that exists on virtually very commercial network (though I have known of at least two exceptions) in the early hours of the morning.&#8221; Linton also said, explaining why the company is mulling this.  He continued, &#8220;Typically on an efficiently utilised network such as Exetel&#8217;s this costs us (at our current size) well over $A150,000 a month and the bandwidth is completely wasted. Simple solution offer it to your user base at no cost to them &#8211; how, over a five year period could you fail to make that work?&#8230;..giving away $A150,000 a month worth of services&#8230;..not a problem in the world. We couldn&#8217;t do it &#8211; rather than using the virtually unused 3 am to 7 am period to set a schedule of downloads our user base insisted on starting them at one second past midnight EVERY night and, for over 90% of those users their downloads were completed by 12.30 am EVERY morning. Could they be persuaded to start their downloads after 2 am?&#8230;&#8230;nothing we could do for five plus years could make that happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the sad part of all of this is the fact that there was frustration over customers actually using what they paid for.  If a company offers a popular service, then suddenly stops it altogether, no doubt there&#8217;ll be anger within the customer base.</p>
<p>Many Australian file-sharers make use of schedulers that either download during certain times of the day or certain times of the month to try and maximize their allotted bandwidth caps.  In fact, sometimes users resort to an alternative form of file-sharing, blanks and postage, to help bypass the caps while still getting what they want.  One wonders, if bandwidth problems haven&#8217;t been solved by now, exactly how much investment is being made in the underlying infrastructure in the first place in Australia?  In addition, what happened to caching traffic to help save bandwidth for the ISPs anyway?</p>
<p>Linton seems to think that there is only a tiny fraction of p2p users actually using that bandwidth in the first place.  He concluded, &#8220;One of the unprovable &#8216;business school myths&#8217; (similar to the &#8220;every unhappy customer etc&#8221; nonsense) is that EVERY service provider would be better off without 1% &#8211; 2% (depending how unlucky they are) of their customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it seems that they think there&#8217;s no problem cutting people off if they try using p2p.  Given more businesses use p2p solutions, this could only serve to hurt the overall Australian economy.  If a small business such as a vidcaster uses BitTorrent to distribute their shows, sorry, but some ISPs don&#8217;t allow it.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if you are selling the content, making money off of ad revenue, or even if you are legitimate at all.  The ISP will have non of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unclear if banning p2p traffic on peak hours will actually be implemented, but Exetel has already expressed interest in carrying through with it.</p>
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		<title>Exetel to Cut P2P Traffic by 50%</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exetel, the Australian ISP, has decided to begin a program of &#8220;de-prioritizing&#8221; P2P traffic and restrict the amount of bandwidth allocated to such users by 50%. Taking an aggregate of all the bandwidth users of file-sharing software could theoretically use from noon to midnight each day, Exetel then intends to restrict this amount and reduce [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exetel, the Australian ISP, has <a href="http://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=17671">decided</a> to begin a program of &#8220;de-prioritizing&#8221; <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/programs/?scatid=84">P2P</a> traffic and restrict the amount of bandwidth allocated to such users by 50%. Taking an aggregate of all the bandwidth users of <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/programs/">file-sharing software</a> could theoretically use from noon to midnight each day, Exetel then intends to restrict this amount and reduce it by half. </p>
<p>Due to begin in mid-November, Exetel makes the laughable surmise that they are really doing no harm to anyone and merely &#8220;protecting&#8221; the &#8220;&#8230;current low prices and high download allowances for all users.&#8221; Heaven forbid if you actually use all of the bandwidth you are paying for in the first place.</p>
<p>Exetel goes on to further poke customers in the eye by noting that   &#8220;You will still be able to get your copy of &#8220;Debbie Does Taronga Zoo&#8217;s  Major Wildlife IV&#8221;; it will just take twice as long to download.&#8221; So let me get this straight, I pay X amount of dollars for an internet connection only to discover that my bandwidth is automatically cut in half when I need it most? Also, what <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/programs/?scatid=58">P2P</a> protocols will be throttled? They don&#8217;t say in the <a href="http://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=17671">forum message</a> to their customers but, surely they can&#8217;t throttle them all.</p>
<p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Exetel-logo.jpg" width="226" height="61" align="right" /></p>
<p>So why now, why this sudden move by Exetel? They write:</p>
<p> Over the past two years Exetel has analysed the traffic that it carries  to and from its users &#8211; as any network provider would do. </p>
<p>Over that, relatively short, period we have noticed that the  percentage of P2P traffic carried on our network has significantly  increased as a percentage of total traffic &#8211; something that every other  network provider around the world has also noticed. </p>
<p>This is where they go on to make the assertion that &#8220;normal&#8221; people who download stuff won&#8217;t care how long it takes only that it eventually downloads at all. This is the really funny part:</p>
<p>We have decided to begin a program of &#8220;de-prioritizing&#8221; P2P traffic on  the basis that it should be immaterial to an end user whether their  downloaded files arrive in 5 minutes or ten minutes &#8211; when all is said  and done they are files that will be used at some later period and  whether, or not, they are available a few minutes later is of  absolutely NO consequence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Immaterial to an end user?&#8221; What are they crazy? My guess is that they&#8217;ve never tried to download a 700MB XVID movie file before, because it&#8217;s more time than just a matter of 5 or 10 minutes involved. </p>
<p>My only hope is that ISPs here in the United States won&#8217;t follow suit. My guess is that they won&#8217;t because we have too many options when it comes to selecting an ISP that they would only risking losing customers to a competitor. Either way, time will tell I guess. In the meantime <a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=606144">Exetel customers are none too happy</a>, with one guy noting &#8221; For cutting p2p speed, they should be bloody reducing their costs, let alone &#8220;retaining&#8221; them.&#8221;</p>
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<p>THE COMPLETE FORUM POST FROM EXETEL</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve raised this issue before. </p>
<p>Over the past two years Exetel has analysed the traffic that it carries  to and from its users &#8211; as any network provider would do. </p>
<p>Over that, relatively short, period we have noticed that the  percentage of P2P traffic carried on our network has significantly  increased as a percentage of total traffic &#8211; something that every other  network provider around the world has also noticed. </p>
<p>We have decided to begin a program of &#8220;de-prioritizing&#8221; P2P traffic  on the basis that it should be immaterial to an end user whether their  downloaded files arrive in 5 minutes or ten minutes &#8211; when all is said  and done they are files that will be used at some later period and  whether, or not, they are available a few minutes later is of  absolutely NO consequence.</p>
<p>As any Exetel user would have noticed, Exetel has progressively  lengthened the &#8216;uncounted period&#8217; and has also increased the &#8217;soft&#8217;  download limit that applies to that period; currently 30 gb. </p>
<p>From mid November, approximately, Exetel will restrict the amount  of bandwidth it provides to P2P traffic to approximately 50% of what  all aggregated users of P2P protocols could, theoretically, use during  the period 12 noon to 12 midnight each day. </p>
<p>This will have the, theoretical, effect, of reducing P2P download  speeds by 50% &#8211; it obviously won&#8217;t affect the total of downloads. </p>
<p>These restrictions shouldn&#8217;t affect any user at all &#8211; other than to  slow the download speed of files using P2P protocols &#8211; which shouldn&#8217;t  matter in any way. </p>
<p>You will still be able to get your copy of &#8220;Debbie Does Taronga  Zoo&#8217;s Major Wildlife IV&#8221;; it will just take twice as long to download. </p>
<p>Why are we doing this?</p>
<p>We are doing this because it will allow Exetel to retain the current low prices and high download allowances for all users.</p>
<p>Who will be inconvenienced? </p>
<p>No-one. </p>
<p>What will it cost Exetel to do this? </p>
<p>A cash outlay of over $100,000 which will reduce operating costs by around $60,000 a month. </p>
<p>Everyone benefits. No-one loses. </p>
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