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	<title>Comments on: RCN Drops Newsgroups Immediately, Comcast Starting Oct 25th</title>
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		<title>By: How to Download From Newsgroups</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9758/rcn_drops_newsgroups_immediately_comcast_starting_oct_25th/#comment-204873</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Download From Newsgroups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ISPs offer very basic access for free. However, many ISPs in the U.S., such as Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, and AT&amp;T, have stopped offering any sort of newsgroup or usenet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ISPs offer very basic access for free. However, many ISPs in the U.S., such as Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, and AT&amp;T, have stopped offering any sort of newsgroup or usenet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: open_universe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9758/rcn_drops_newsgroups_immediately_comcast_starting_oct_25th/#comment-179107</link>
		<dc:creator>open_universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you no fan of Usenet?  Also can&#039;t people access Usenet through the Web?  How can these ISPs &quot;drop&quot; them?  I am confused please help explain this.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you no fan of Usenet?  Also can&#8217;t people access Usenet through the Web?  How can these ISPs &#8220;drop&#8221; them?  I am confused please help explain this.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: soulxtc</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9758/rcn_drops_newsgroups_immediately_comcast_starting_oct_25th/#comment-179108</link>
		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I dont like Usenet cause u have to pay a monthly subsc&lt;x&gt;ription fee for a decent newsgroup service..after $60 for my broadband connection I dont want to shell out any more. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I dont like Usenet cause u have to pay a monthly subsc<x>ription fee for a decent newsgroup service..after $60 for my broadband connection I dont want to shell out any more.</x></p>
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		<title>By: open_universe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9758/rcn_drops_newsgroups_immediately_comcast_starting_oct_25th/#comment-179109</link>
		<dc:creator>open_universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay so how can they be blocked?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so how can they be blocked?</p>
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		<title>By: DrewWilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrewWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s incorrect.  When an ISP is saying that they are dropping UseNet they mean that they are no longer offering their free services to their subscribers.  This forces people to either addopt a different protocol or pay a subsc&lt;x&gt;ription fee (which is what you referred to in your comment)

Chances are the cost of running the service was too high (likely profit margine ba&lt;x&gt;sed and not economics ba&lt;x&gt;sed) and they dropped their service.  Usenet is an excellent resource for materials and I certainly knew the difference when my ISP dropped the service.  It&#039;s like suddenly losing a massive private BitTorrent site that didn&#039;t enforce ratios even though everyone uploaded huge amounts as if they were enforced.  Trust me even just a few days of retention it&#039;s at least as good as BitTorrent.  Premium services just overshadow BitTorrent in terms of content and speeds.  Since it was relatively complex for beginners n00bs usually were kept off the system (which is both good and bad)

If you pay for a premium service it&#039;s a third party.  If an ISP were to block the protocol a) premium services woudl be down their throats for lost revenues and b) large corporations would be twisting the ISPs ears because they can&#039;t message collegues like they usually do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s incorrect.  When an ISP is saying that they are dropping UseNet they mean that they are no longer offering their free services to their subscribers.  This forces people to either addopt a different protocol or pay a subsc<x>ription fee (which is what you referred to in your comment)</p>
<p>Chances are the cost of running the service was too high (likely profit margine ba</x><x>sed and not economics ba</x><x>sed) and they dropped their service.  Usenet is an excellent resource for materials and I certainly knew the difference when my ISP dropped the service.  It&#8217;s like suddenly losing a massive private BitTorrent site that didn&#8217;t enforce ratios even though everyone uploaded huge amounts as if they were enforced.  Trust me even just a few days of retention it&#8217;s at least as good as BitTorrent.  Premium services just overshadow BitTorrent in terms of content and speeds.  Since it was relatively complex for beginners n00bs usually were kept off the system (which is both good and bad)</p>
<p>If you pay for a premium service it&#8217;s a third party.  If an ISP were to block the protocol a) premium services woudl be down their throats for lost revenues and b) large corporations would be twisting the ISPs ears because they can&#8217;t message collegues like they usually do.</x></p>
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