Comments on: Coming Soon: Automated Piracy Identification & Settlement System

By: open_universe

open_universe — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

Someone explain how this works. If I’m using eMule how can they track from whom I’m torrenting if they themselves aren’t giving me the files? To track traffic on the Web don’t they have to be at the ISP itself?

By: TronixA

TronixA — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

How the hell can these guys know if you download files from Newsgroups? These files are usually hosted on a local newsgroup server and the only way they could know what you are downloading is to use a man in the middle attack. Also since when is downloading copyright infringement? I thought that you can only be sued for uploading files.

By: soulxtc

soulxtc — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

@Open
I think what it will do is basically spit out a bunch of unsupportable charges. If you’re in a BitTorrent swarm for example how can u make a person pay for downloading or uploading a fraction of a song? Its silly.

@Tronix
You’re right its not illegal to download only upload – i.e. distribute – copyrighted material. It truly seems to be an illegal shakedown scheme.

By: etabeta

etabeta — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

Automated extortion.

By: DrewWilson

DrewWilson — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

…and if they sue any of my fans for copyright infringement over BitTorrent and ED2K I’m suing them for sending false DMCA notice and takedowns causing irreparable harm to my name from angry fans who think I’ve turned on them any profits made off of my work (the CC license I have expressly forbids commercial use of my works on p2p) and any future losses I could experience as a result of bad faith whenever I release an album that people can buy.

If you target me for copyright infringement for distributing my own work on P2P I know exactly how to spread bad news about their service. If anyone receives a DMCA notice for downloading/uploading any of my work I want to hear about it (and forward the notice to me of course)

By: TronixA

TronixA — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I guess we’ll just have to see if they really can target Usenet downloaders….Sounds like a bunch of hyperbole to me..

By: DrewWilson

DrewWilson — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

totally agree. How can they monitor traffic on servers they don’t own? The question remains will they simply use warrantless wiretapping to target people? Just imagine the overhead that would cause.

By: Wonx2150

Wonx2150 — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I wouldn’t be surprised if they go the way of media defender. Last time i checked they where on the verge of bankruptcy.

By: wapazoid

wapazoid — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

This isn’t going to work. The system’s about as useful as private companies installing red light camera’s for profit. Dig the visual… “Warning illegal files have been detected on your computer. Processing settlement fee… Balance due: $2485.34″

Yeah this will go over REALLY swell.

By: Spurge

Spurge — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I.P address range to block for this extortion mob? Can anyone confirm what that may be.