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Game Developers Go Nuts, Suing Up to 25,000 File-Sharers

Game Developers Go Nuts, Suing Up to 25,000 File-Sharers

Five of the world’s top game developers team up to fight illegal file-sharing of popular game titles, demanding the name and IPs of suspects who’ll be asked to pay 300 pounds ($557 USD) each to settle.

UK-based law firm Davenport Lyons is leading the charge on behalf of Atari, Topware Interactive, Reality Pump, Techland and Codemaster game developers to crack down on the illegal file-sharing of their titles.

‘Our clients are incensed by the level of illegal downloading,” said Roger Billens, a partner of Davenport Lyons. “Hopefully people will think twice if they risk being taken to court.’

The law firm said it would apply to the High Court to force ISPs to release the names and addresses of 7,000 suspected file-sharers.

The number of people prosecuted for piracy by Davenport Lyons could reach 25,000, according to a report in the Daily Mail on Wednesday. They would be offered the chance to pay 300 pounds ($557 USD) each for damages to settle out of court, the report added.

It also claims that the first 500 who ignore the letters will “face immediate legal action” by the game developers.

The suspected file-sharers were identified by a Swiss forensic computer company Logistep. It searched for the users’ IP address, a unique number allocated to every computer that connects to the Internet.

“Illegal file-sharing is a very serious issue resulting in millions of pounds of losses to copyright owners,” said David Gore, another of the law firm’s partners.

He added that “Taking direct action against file-sharers will become an ‘important and effective’ weapon to tackle online piracy.

The news comes on the heels of a recent effort by the same law firm about a month ago on behalf of Topware Interactive when it sued some 100 people for illegally sharing copies of it’s Dream Pinball 3-D game.

Some of have already weighed in on the case:

This has been a hot topic since the beginning of home recording technologies and the “debate” will never cease.

Due to the belief that all roads lead to piracy and that digital piracy of goods is a ‘bad thing’, we’re seeing individual rights being dissolved, privacy being violated and people dictating how we enjoy our movies and music and the like… limiting innovation for fear of loss in profits without actually conducting research that may demonstrate a greater return on their investments should the cease this wild goose chase.

There is no conclusive un-biased evidence that can link so-called digital piracy to negative impacts on sales of popular media. The ongoing “fight” is mere evidence that the current model of distribution for most popular media, along with the law protecting it, is antiquated and in need of heavy revision. It no longer works in the best interest of anyone at all really…

People are afraid of new ideas and always have been.

The truth is, the question of whether file sharing is “moral or not” is very subjective. It depends entirely on the intentions of the individual. One way of looking at it – In some countries, the law only punishes those who commit the act of file SHARING rather than those whom actively seek shared goods. If there is a middle ground at all, I don’t believe punishing individuals for accessing content available is the solution as they’re not the ones causing the problem.

I for one do not support raw piracy, but the ‘path of least resistance.’

Obtaining a new or hard to find album digitally is convenient, “green” and instantly gratifying. I think less often piracy happens because of the cost of the products but rather because there have been more innovations in stealing music than selling it!

Stop hiring lawyers and start hiring developers and you’ll see a lot more return on your investment.

I couldn’t agree more.

Jared Moya
I've been interested in P2P since the early, high-flying days of Napster and KaZaA. I believe that analog copyright laws are ill-suited to the digital age, and that art and culture shouldn't be subject to the whims of international entertainment industry conglomerates. Twitter | Google Plus
wapazoid
wapazoid

As I already stated your vengeful "1984" scenario won't happen. One would think that a supreme corporate entity such as yourself would have the ability to articulate yourself in English far better than you've been demonstrating let alone maintain composure befitting a professional of your stature. You're not a programmer you're not a 30 year recording artist or part of an elite government backed entertainment illuminati. At best your a young teenage son of a oil baron who makes occasional investments in US ventures. You're nothing but pointless text on a screen.

N Fiddledog
N Fiddledog

Hey...I think I know that guy. Was he driving a suburban with a plasma TV in the back? Or was that you?

N Fiddledog
N Fiddledog

It's just that something about that story sounds very familiar.

sarge2004
sarge2004

I was in Atlanta GA yesterday for a conference specifically Buckhead programmer heaven where many were recently laid off and they are pissed off. up here anything goes and the laws go back to the 1800's not a place to have the police on their radar. and yes there are sellers on every street corner out here at least that is what I was told from the locals.

sarge2004
sarge2004

this guy had a blu ray dvd it had over 200 programs not just vista he had every program out there including a few my company did that is what set us off. to bad his martial skills were not of much use 'chuckle chuckle'

sarge2004
sarge2004

So I guess you really want to go back to the iron age if this file sharing keeps up that is where we will be in 10 years

sarge2004
sarge2004

Rhianna is also near bankruptcy with only $20000 in available funds.

Hawkmtnman
Hawkmtnman

sarge2004 is the BIGGEST ASS I have heard on the net in a long time....

sarge2004
sarge2004

and they thrive on violence they love to hurt the weaker man

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

Funny I've yet to meet a computer scientist making less than $80 000 a year most I know make over $100 000. The ones that took a 2 year college course are making about $50 000 or more. I'm not sure who your friends are sarge but you must all be pretty pitiful not to be able to get decent paying jobs. You know what the first sign of a looser is they blame all their problems on the world.

open_universe
open_universe

Everyone: It is my opinion that poster "sarge2004" is a troll or an employee of the RIAA. Isn't it obvious?

sarge2004
sarge2004

no my friend you are wrong cd sales are detrimental to a labels survival if you were to work for one you would understand this is a losing battle trying to let you guys know what is on the horizon time will tell

manicminer
manicminer

so you beat some guy to a pulp for selling pirated material? you couldn't just call the cops? and you're an educated programmer? what backward redneck violent loser hellhole do you come from???????

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

Sarge is in my opinion a reverse troll make ridiculous statements to get a return of logical ones. This forces a social change where people think the big wigs are ass backwards and things need to change towards more consumer protection. It makes it really easy to pull off when the big wigs really are ass backwards also makes it hard to tell if it really is a reverse troll.

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

Guess what those billions of people are not all customers. Your companies could succeed if you understood the markets. If you can't adjust your plans in the 5 years in which problems start to arise your company deserves to have crumbled. To be honest sarge I've never met such a buffoon in my life the fact that you found success can only attest to how inflated your market was. Now that things are starting to get competitive you can't keep your head above water. That's what happens in all industry those that can't cut it die.

sarge2004
sarge2004

I have a question in your opinion how many file sharers are there out there now ? I imagine over a billion maybe more ?

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

Sorry mean to say the only way to compete with a higher priced product is to offer ...

sarge2004
sarge2004

If to many people are embarrassed in front of their families I am sure it will stop overnight

sarge2004
sarge2004

any site bit torrent news groups all have logs that have ip addresses in them they never vanish even spoofed addresses can be dissected. give it time you will see :)

sarge2004
sarge2004

excuse me martial arts skills

sarge2004
sarge2004

It is also known as "hustlers paradise"

sarge2004
sarge2004

Good finally to many working under these rich developers are ending up in the streets death penalty for all file sharing except for porn porn is everywhere now but music and software should definitely be a serious offense no prison time just death to many people on this planet anyway so the offenders need to be put in front of firing squads and shot at point blank range. it is the only way it will stop I mean if you have seen the real serious damage it has done across multiple industries not limited to family suicides homelessness and murder all due to loss of wealth jobs the death penalty will stop anyone from doing it in the future otherwise it will still continue on into the next decade until everyone is out of business.

sarge2004
sarge2004

I am not trying to sound harsh but in some states like Texas if you walk into someones home and take their TV x box jewelery and they catch you in the act and shoot you it is perfectly legal and again like I have been saying before file sharing is on that same level you are slowly killing off or putting kids parents brothers sisters uncles grandparents aunts and cousins in the streets while you are safetly in your home laughing about it. I was at a sports bar yesterday with some of my former employees it is a hangout for programmers tech guys and we were talking about the harsh economy so a guy had the nerve to come up to us and tried to sell us photoshop vista word and numerous other programs at a huge discount he had 20 dvd's in his back pack his price was $200 for 20k in programs I snapped and I smacked him in the head with beer glass then all hell broke lose he could fight but he was no match for 7 angry pissed off programmers and we all ganged up on him and beat him to a pulp when the police showed up we explained what happened and he was arrested when they saw the dvd's in his back pack he deserved it. some of these down loaders are getting really brave now they are not happy that they got away with ripping programs and music they are out there trying to sell them in public at bars on the street corner craigslist anywhere they think they can make a sale this could be the reason why file sharing is under fire more than ever.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Sarge C'mon it has NEVER WORKED nor WILL IT EVER. As usual in a sign of desperation copyright holders resort to the least common denominator. People just adapt while copyright holders do not...... Sue KaZaA users they go to BitTorrent.... People then use VPN tunnels PRIVATE TRACKER SITES or simply use private DC++ hubs or shared FTP sites....... Technology ALWAYS WINS in the end that's why file-sharing lawsuits are doomed to fail. BTW your example is just retarded I would have beat him up too for ripping people off they should just get it for free :P "7 angry pissed off programmers?" ...too funny. "....some of these down loaders are getting really brave now they are not happy that they got away with ripping programs and music they are out there trying to sell them in public at bars on the street corner craigslist anywhere they think they can make a sale.." ......those are the same guys who've ALWAYS BEEN PIRATES they're much different from FILE-SHARERS who are adamant that content be FREE. I think this nonsense you speak is merely a symptom of the sluggish global economy. Nobody's selling any pirated goods where I live here in San Diego Tijuana's a different story though.

sarge2004
sarge2004

Again tell me on how file sharing is not harmful "from perez hilton" Jermain Dupri is getting some heat in his hometown of Atlanta! His restaurant Cafe Dupri has gone bust and former employees are claiming that they either were not paid or that checks issued to them by Dupri's business people bounced. It's also been claimed that the restaurant shut its doors and left its employees jobless without any notice! If that's true how cruel! Dupri's momma managed the cafe on his behalf and when contacted by reporters she lashed out and said a business is only as good as its employees. If the employees who were complaining worked harder the restaurant might have done better. Doesn't momma Dupri sound a little defensive? Dupri is cash poor record sales are in the hundreds of thousands instead of the millions many label moguls like Dupri are trying to get their reality shows bought so that they can ride out this storm problem is that there are so few time slots and way to many label moguls that are going broke by the minute'' To run a small label ? you are looking at 100k a month on the low end I imagine Dupri is spending 1MM a month trying to keep his empire afloat and if 2.5MM a month is not coming in he will be out of business by the years end he used to make over 30MM a year.

soulxtc
soulxtc

"...up here anything goes and the laws go back to the 1800's" "...at least that is what I was told from the locals. " "Hustler's paradise?" WTF? Maybe that's why it took 7 of you and your friends to beat up one measly Vista slinging idiot you're going off the hearsay of "locals?" Sounds like bootleg copies of Vista is the LEAST of their problems in Atlanta.....wouldn't you agree? I think authorities there have their hands full with REAL problems like drugs violence traffic etc. BTW who the hell would even want Vista let alone buy it? The Internet means software piracy is GLOBAL the sooner you adapt to it the better. Unless you plan to inspect every single data packet transmitted between users it's a losing battle.

sarge2004
sarge2004

again tell me that file sharing is not harmful this is from realestatestalker.com Damon Dash is going broke According to the venerable International Herald Tribune music mogul Damon Dash and his fashionista wifey Rachel Roy are facing foreclosure on a couple of Manhattan condos. Property records show the hip hopping couple own a dee-luxe doo-plex at the Atalanta building on N. Moore Street as well as a triplex penthouse located atop The Sugar Warehouse building on Laight Street. According to property records reports and court filings the alliteratively blessed couple carries a whopping $7300000 mortgage on the N. Moore Street condo which is comprised of two combined units. Mortgage holder Eastern Savings Bank the entity that initiated the uglee foreclosure proceedings claims the couple were meant to be making monstrous monthly payments of $78500 a number that is larger than most people in this country make in an entire year. Listing information shows that Mister and Missus Dash recently had the 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom Laight Street triplex on the market for $3650000 which would have put some paper in their pockets but the penthouse appears to have been taken off the market recently. Your Mama can not fathom how a man who recently told New York Magazine that he estimated his net worth to be "around $50 million" could possibly find himself facing foreclosure but apparently and allegedy he is. Must be some kind of trouble in Mister Dash's hip hop paradise. Or as we're sure his people will proclaim it's all just some sort of mistake that will be cleared up toot-suite. Some of the children surely recall that Mister Dash sold his big Beverly Hills abode in May of 2007 for a reported $3600000.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Sarge Im sure none of it has to do with blowing it on Hummers and fancy clothes...... And "Iron Age?" C'mon your an intelligent guy think about that statement for a second. Information and data is FREELY SHARED that should be a benefit to mankind....and it means some are unable to make physical games or software that people buy in a store then maybe they should develop alternatives like Google (online software apid for by ad revenue) or MORPG where people pay for schwag..... Quit crying already its 2008. do u really want to be repeating this nonsense in 10 years like the RIAA has already?

sarge2004
sarge2004

No soulxtc Unfortunately these artists used to sell millions and millions of cd's now they are selling 80% less in stores you all are stealing from the most dangerous violent criminals out there that would not bat an eye hurting those that steal from them and they are at the end of their rope all of you are opening up pandoras box RIAA has been trying to keep that from happening but they have made a bad situation worse. These label moguls run some of the most powerful street gangs in the world. what would you do if 100 gangsters showed up at your front door ? These guys command armies of thousands gangs in every city county throughout the world They are crazzzzyy and very ruthless and violent and I am not talking about the mafia even the mafia is afraid of them I am talking about former black mexican white street dealers that rose to the top with their multi platnium artists and now they are forced to go back to the hood and hustle and they do not want that life they want to live in the ivory tower and hang out with folks like me and my friends dine at fine restaurants own the high end cars and real estate and record sales was given them that kind of a life and now it looks like the ride is over.

sarge2004
sarge2004

They are not going to protest all they are going to do is find file sharers they are not hard to find and make an example out of them with violence and intimidation these moguls are far more of a nightmare than the worse bully at your high school. they will keep it out of the papers and rumors will spread that file sharing is dangerous it will stop and then the music business will get back to profitability. I do not know the timetable but there has been talk in the last week at just about every meeting I have been to they are trying to find a civil way to stop it but no one is listening so I suspect it will happen soon. then again maybe they will give up and let this all go but I doubt it as fighting and survival has always been in their blood

Mord_Sith
Mord_Sith

You're an odd one Sarge so I'll give you a little tale from yesteryear in the past there used to be things called 'demos' those 'demos' were used to promote various games and whatnot to potential customers however you know what happened? Companies realized that they could get more sales by not producing a demo and putting more money into hype creating an unintelligent purchase. Now in my case I pull in software I might be interested in purchasing in the future and have done so on many occasions does that make me a felon for wanting a demo of what I'm going to buy and being an intelligent consumer? How about trying to put out decent product at a decent price before whining about hip-hopping jivesters who don't give two hoots about anyone but themselves and are getting burned from their lap of luxury. Plus anyone with half a brain in the music industry knows artists don't make money on CD sales they make them on tours and concerts with a bit of icing from product sales at the concerts as for the labels sorry but I'm not going to shed crocodile tears for those blighters they've been ripping people off since their conception and it's about damn time the dog bit them in the ass for it.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@SArge Again YOU ARE WRONG....vinyl sales are going up as are licensing mechanisms for internet radio satellite radio etc. not to mention the fact that they still should be receiving royalties from terrestrial radio. The labels have to figure out a different way to market their music be it some sort of blanket licensing scheme where you pay your ISP 1o bucks a month lie u do cable and get unlimited music or other alternatives. Recor labels no longer MANUFACTURE or DISTRIBUTE music like they did before since music has largely gone digital so its only logical they should be earning and making less revenue THEY'RE DOING LESS! Many labels are doing just fine and the ones that do survive will have learned how to use the Internet to their advantage. It's illogical to presume that for the first time in history mankind will stop making music simply because it's not profitable to sell compact discs. Its a BS argument and based on faulty logic. Bands will still TOUR - the heart and soul of music - and will still sell their music at shows for fans to show their support.

villiby
villiby

he was no match for 7 angry pissed off programmers and we all ganged up on him and beat him to a pulp heehaahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Its really hard to take you seriously when you say things like that... and what exactly did your little story have to do with file-sharing? Sounds more like you wanted to give your ego a good boost.. With all the hype being created about rubbish products its good that file-sharing is around to save the customer.. Take hancock for example...

soulxtc
soulxtc

@MR I know right? There's plenty of job opportunities out there and I mean it's not like game developers aren't hiring Xbox 360 games alone are still flying of the shelves and the Wii? Fuggedda bout it. @Villiby I bet it was hilarious I wish I could've been there............ /right punch /left punch /head butt /kick to the groin /gutshot /beer bottle over pirates head /asskickin

sarge2004
sarge2004

I have been a recording artist for the last 30 years I am also part of a consortium and we own various mid level companies including software and music labels I have picked up programming skills along the way but I am more of a boss than the help. I myself live well but I spend 10% maybe 20% at the most of my income on my lifestyle so instead of having 20 rolls royces I only have 2. instead of 100 mercedes I only have 4 and I only have 3 estates in LA 2 of which I rent out and instead of buying a private jet I rent one from time to time mostly I fly first class now if file sharing had not existed ? I would have a lot more of everything which I did at one time. I will admit that most of these hip hop moguls did set themselves up for long term failure when they were spending over 50% of their revenue on themselves their entourages and their companies just to show whose boss and then they would borrow and leverage themselves to the hilt when times got rough because they knew they were going to sell millions of records on their new batch of artists like they had done so many times before in the past recession proof right ? problem was this time it did not happen they forgot about one thing file sharing and itunes you also have to keep in mind that the payday they were expecting this year was to come from record sales tours movies from 5 years ago in the record business a full cycle for revenue from artists is 5 years in movies it is 8 years. So with that said None of them could for see what has transpired in 2008 and they are in shock and awe to say the least when instead of getting billions in revenues they only got a couple hundred million overall. When cd's sold for 16.99 record labels used to make $9 a record and overall sales in the hundreds of millions units generating billions in revenue now they make $4 a record and sell under a million for the top top artists and the average artists sell around 200k copies their overall sales have dipped to below 100 million a year since 2002 ? that is including downloads for example when linkin park sold 15 million records 9 years ago now they are selling 1MM tops how can they stay in business ? It explains why their manager is trying to sell his place he has to downsize. as for the bar incident I feel bad about it now that I am sober and had time to think about it but then again this kid and many others like him are killing the future of this world. Also as far as you trying out our programs to see if you like it that is fine but back in the day when people were forced to buy software we had record numbers in sales similar to what oil companies are now having so we were able to rapidly expand buy more buildings and hire more staff programmers executives buy more private jets lavish homes for the top employees to live in with their families those were truly the salad days. Now our sales are dismal and so our companies are 10% of what they used to be it is a very sad picture indeed. So you can not blame me for hating file sharing. btw I come from the oil fields of Texas yee haw !!!!

sarge2004
sarge2004

Like I said before filesharing is decimating the world economy I do not work for the RIAA I own companies with others that put out products that file sharers are stealing from and it has to stop file sharers need to be declared enemy combatants terrorists they should be without a country and the real problem here is that the damage they do is not known for at least 5 years file sharers are like the unseen termites eating away slowly at homes until there is nothing left and it takes years to do amount of damage. I know it because me and my partners have lost millions and millions of dollars to file sharing and we just found out this year the extent of the damage.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Sarge "filesharing is decimating the world economy?" - OMG u are serious. The only thing be decimated is the wallets of overpriced record label execs.

sarge2004
sarge2004

http://www.nexon.net/ yes they are taking a multi billion dollar industry and turning it into a multi million dollar industry very brilliant

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

Even tho most video games companies like Nexon never make billions I'll humor you sarge. When you have a market and you charge a certain price and someone else comes around and undercuts you thats a sign your charging too much. If you have in the past made a ton of money and someone comes around willing to make less charge less and undercut you thats called competing. If you don't understand these fundamentals of economics you shouldn't be in the game. Laws shouldn't be made to help protect bad business men if you can't cut it your out. As you have kindly pointed out numerous big wigs have hit it big and died and the market survives.

starwhite
starwhite

@ Sarge First of all if companies charged a fair price for movies music & games people would not see the need to share with one another. Secondly sharing is not stealing! How much money do you think you should make? Enough is enough! Two Rolls Royce s? I don't feel one bot sorry for your candy ass! Your so-called industry is based upon fear & greed. The very business mode of sales & distribution is outdated & is causing the industry most of it's woes. How dare you threaten people with death 7 violence just so you can turn a buck? Burn in HELL monster! This is changing as people wake to reality. Sharing is caring. Sharing makes the world a better place.

sarge2004
sarge2004

What I am saying is that nexon is one of the many that is taking a multi billion dollar gaming industry and reducing it to ashes

mountain_rage
mountain_rage

If thats what they are doing than the industry is inflated. They are taking a product realizing they can make a decent profit and taking that opportunity. If you make too big of an overhead and charge too much for your product others will come by and take over the market. That is how the market works. The only way to compete with a higher price is to offer either more value/better service or the perception of such. Otherwise you just have to learn to live in the market at the price its worth not the value you would like it to be worth.

sarge2004
sarge2004

Starwhite lets forget about my material possessions for a second we were employing thousands of employees with real salaries real jobs real lives they were able to raise families there was infrastructure communities now it is all gone and we were charging a fair price the problem is that most of you want FREE software and music so how can we survive with that mentality ? also there is no hell earth is heaven and hell at the rate you are going I know you are going to be in hell very soon as you are getting smacked in the head by a phone book at police headquarters as you are trying to explain your reasoning on why stealing is okay to do. file sharing is destroying lively hoods putting folks on the street so who is the monster eh ?

starwhite
starwhite

There is absolutely no way file sharing will ever be stopped because there are too may people sharing. This has permanently changed the industry. It will NOT go back to the good old days when they can charge as much as they want for a music CD. They might pull down a few P2P sites but they always come back. I do not care how many thugs pop out of the woodwork. Sooner or later even the crooked politicians they have bought off are exposed as well. This causes the public to lose even more respect for them.

sarge2004
sarge2004

We are also gettting home addresses and numbers from the ip addresses we have obtained from shareza limewire rapidshare which in some countries we will turn over to collection agencies so if you get a call from a collection agency demanding payment it may be from us This file sharing will end very soon

starwhite
starwhite

@ Sarge2004 Technology changes if you can't change with it then you should get out. Instead you come in here & try N scare people with threats of violence & death. Fact is people have ALWAYS been unhappy the majority of the price of music movies & games. SO we decided to share as technology made it possible. IF I buy a copy its mine & if i can share it I choose to. These family's out of work need to go & get a new job the FREE ride is over the public has spoken you people may actually have to 'sing for your supper' as in the old days! Get used it chump. You may kill a few of us but you cannot stop us all! Up your ass with bought off back stabbing politicians & copyrights they don't work. A new business mode is needed that is fair for one & all. That is reality.

starwhite
starwhite

@Sarge2004 so you believe you can violate people's civil liberties? This ain't over yet sucker. I'll see your ass in court! As we speak I am sharing lots of music movies and oh so many games! And if your so called RIAA Mafia succeeds in killing me as you have threatened to do so be sure to turn me over so you can kiss my ass!

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Sarge "We are also gettting home addresses and numbers from the ip addresses we have obtained from shareza limewire rapidshare." UH crap crap and crap....if anything you should be suing them for using such malware infested programs you're doing them a favor actually. Good luck with newsgroups and BitTorrent though buddy! Arrrrrrrrrrrr!

sarge2004
sarge2004

I am not going to kill anyone hitting someone pn the head with a beer glass is far different than killing we live in a civil world now so at best we can have an arrest made if that. but I have no doubt that your freedoms are going to get decimated as more and more of you are caught red handed and it is clearly seen to the govt officials how big of a problem that this has really become. ISP's are starting to give in and provide home addresses and phone numbers under the table so at least that is a start for us why should we spend millions and millions of dollars to make great entertainment for you and your friends just to give it away not logical and the faster way to stop this is to assign collection agencies to every file sharer out there it is the easiest the cheapest and the most efficient solution. sure there are a few dead beats but I know there has to be at least a billion of honest moral folks who would rather buy music or software at our set prices than be caught by us and exposed to their husband wife kids parents grandparents ever again. file sharing is stealing no matter which way you slice it and it is a pretty shameful dishonest crime and those that do it need to pay up and be shamed in front of their loved ones so that it will not happen again so when this operation is put into motion the collection agencies will be calling file sharers every half hour until they pay up so we hope that will be enough to stop it permanently. and when file sharing is no longer in existence you will see as the artists cd's are back up to 18 a pop they are selling over 5 million records you will have new copies of rolling stones aerosmith prince michael jackson linkin park and millions more will be employeed at better salaries as software companies are back to making record profits and they can share the wealth with everyone I imagine this will all occur in 3 years ?



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