Comments on: UK – Will Anti-Piracy ISPs Fuel Appetite for Fiber-Optic Connections?

By: ejonesss

ejonesss — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

how does fiber optics make you safe?

By: open_universe

open_universe — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Too many people have been hooked into high-sped Internet connectivity for it to ever go away. If the main ISPs do indeed become traffic cops for the RIAA and MPAA etc. people will create their own private networks. You’re already seeing this in UneNet where you pay a monthly fee to be a member and get to download anything you want. The sad thing about this will be that everyone’s greatest fear the “balkanization” of the Internet will have occurred.

Too bad the RIAA and MPAA can’t embrace the 21st Century. Oh well.

By: Simpsim

Simpsim — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

It’s a good idea in practice. Get a direct pipe onto the internet. How would one get an IP address for this scenario? Is this where you could simply set up your own IP? If that was the case then you would be pretty damn near untraceable if you were indulging in naughty things. Someone will have to clue me in on how this would work….

By: Simpsim

Simpsim — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Ooops LOL…. Change “practice” for “theory” in the previous comment.

By: DrewWilson

DrewWilson — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@ ejoness – when I read the report I immediately thought of the first safety principle of open p2p – safety in numbers. It took this long to pressure a couple of ISPs imagine having to go after thousands of “ISPs”. A few of the other reasons have already been mentioned above.

By: mountain_rage

mountain_rage — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Not a terrible idea I’d like to see more of a co-op rather than this model. Where everyone is part owner of the company and has the ability to make decisions on how its run.

By: ejonesss

ejonesss — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@DrewWilson the only thing i can think of is.

1. fiber optic is so fast that any wire tap attempts would be foiled by the data flowing too fast for current wire tapping devices.

2. fiber optics cant be be tapped secretly (being a conspiracy why the lines cost so much (requiring costly tapping hardware to be installed))

3. being connected directly to the internet (being your own isp) exploits some loophole that makes the line un tappable (without a high end court order or something) also being directly connected to the internet they can change their ip and close their own isp and come up under a new ip and name and do more p2p each time sent another c&d notice

By: open_universe

open_universe — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@ ejoness

Your points (1) & (2) make no sense. As for (3) I doubt that the law provides a “loophole” for individuals acting as ISPs.

By: sarge2004

sarge2004 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I heard off the record that the real reason Russia invaded Georgia was to stop piracy they are blowing up the buildings that
house servers that carry trillions of dollars worth of software music and movies anyone care to comment ?

By: ejonesss

ejonesss — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@open_universe i think i remember reading somewhere that isps them self are immune to the laws (somewhat) so by being an isp then you can have an account set up that you can do p2p on and if a c&d notice comes in then delete that account and make a new one