RIAA Argues that Ripping MP3 from CDs Is Illegal

So Is the RIAA going to have Undercover Agents Stopping Everyone walking around with MP3 Players and Demand that They show Proper Paperwork for the Tunes that They have on the Players ? .99 a tune x 1000 + songs Thats a Lot of Recipts to carry around ! Get Warrants to search your House to see if You have CD'S Vinyl Tapes and Match them up to Your Players Computers or CD-R's or DVD Discs. 70% of The U.S. would be in Court ! and I'm sure if International laws became Effective Half the World would be involved. Gee You think the RIAA has $ signs on that Thought !!!!!!!!!!!!

No cause the supreme court has ruled on this as fair use going back to the beta max case. Then look at the fact that mp3 players would drop off the face of the earth sales wise due to the fact that people would probably no longer be buying them since its illegal to rip them you would be cutting out a large portion of the money that certain companys make by doing this. Its especialy retarded when there are company's making mp3 players that own music labels so they would be shooting them selves twice over and the idea of buying all the drm protected media online would be another shot in the foot cause one they would be killing the actual cd sales and it would piss a lot of people off that buy the cd then have to rebuy it for their mp3 player. Its all dumb and the riaa is going to kill the industry. Hell certain music labels have actually came out and said they are doing more harm then good with the riaa. Its all sad

" If ripping a CD to your hard drive is not illegal don't you think they want to extend this to mean that eventually? Then you have to buy a physical CD to listen to the music in the CD Players and you have to purchase online DRM-protected tracks if you want to listen to to the music on your portable player. It's the best of both worlds for them. They'll be back in power and stealing our money soon enough." even if they do the hackers will find a way around it-they'll NEVER stop us!!!!!!!!!!!

If ripping a CD to your hard drive is not illegal don't you think they want to extend this to mean that eventually? Then you have to buy a physical CD to listen to the music in the CD Players and you have to purchase online DRM-protected tracks if you want to listen to to the music on your portable player. It's the best of both worlds for them. They'll be back in power and stealing our money soon enough.

Boomer You make a valid point and my friends are dicks. I again am sorry for any offenses caused on these forums

It's funny to fight on the same user name I wondered what the was going on.. :) Murrhound is a nice name though where does it come from? Woof. It sounds like they are trying to have it that just ripping to an mp3 isn't legal but whatever they have it all mashed together when it would be better to separate it into points ripping as one and sharing as two explaining each.

By the way im not the owner of this name i happen to be using my friends computer and Im just trying to get him pissed off by posting asshole things. #7 is me #6 was him. So just keep talking trash and making him look like an ass.

Murrhound it is kind of dick of you to call people tards but jesus christ does milton go way to far. Its none of your business what murrhound does in his gay circle jerk. I dont think you should be letting everyone know that he does that anyway since your dad is usually in attendance of these circle jerks.

Hey milton just so you know intent to distribute and sharing are the same thing in the eyes of the law. You dont have the right to copy copy righted material and then allow others do make their own copys. Its still falls under piracy laws. When you share your weed you can still be charged with intent for distribution. Thats why people that get caught doing that kind of stuff also get charged with the sale of a controlled substance. So in the case of music the idea of sharing would still fall under the intent to distribute. If the person was selling the items then they could charge them with unlicensed sale of copy righted material. Two different charges and laws. So my apologies for having offended you. Im not disagreeing that the riaa is insane and that there should be some compromise in the p2p area but I will admit that Im stealing. Whats the difference in me stealing an album off the internet from me going to the store and taking it. Both are still causing the same exact problem. Again dont get me wrong I do dl music and will continue to do so.

watch who you call "tards." soul isnt one to grab news out of his ass if it sounds like it will make a stir. That being said you are correct. but its not like the RIAA has ever had a clear understanding of what is right; just what makes them the most money.

He is clearly saying that he was showing the intent to distribute and that is illegal as well. The actual copying is not what is being called illegal

I happen to be a in school for law and I had one of my teacher read this. He said that they were referring to the actual putting of the files online to be illegal not the copying of the files to the folder. Read you tards it says the copying of the files and putting them in the shared folder to be shared is illegal and sorry folks but it is.

lol riaa cunts.

So Is the RIAA going to have Undercover Agents Stopping Everyone walking around with MP3 Players and Demand that They show Proper Paperwork for the Tunes that They have on the Players ? .99 a tune x 1000 + songs Thats a Lot of Recipts to carry around ! Get Warrants to search your House to see if You have CD'S Vinyl Tapes and Match them up to Your Players Computers or CD-R's or DVD Discs. 70% of The U.S. would be in Court ! and I'm sure if International laws became Effective Half the World would be involved. Gee You think the RIAA has $ signs on that Thought !!!!!!!!!!!!

No cause the supreme court has ruled on this as fair use going back to the beta max case. Then look at the fact that mp3 players would drop off the face of the earth sales wise due to the fact that people would probably no longer be buying them since its illegal to rip them you would be cutting out a large portion of the money that certain companys make by doing this. Its especialy retarded when there are company's making mp3 players that own music labels so they would be shooting them selves twice over and the idea of buying all the drm protected media online would be another shot in the foot cause one they would be killing the actual cd sales and it would piss a lot of people off that buy the cd then have to rebuy it for their mp3 player. Its all dumb and the riaa is going to kill the industry. Hell certain music labels have actually came out and said they are doing more harm then good with the riaa. Its all sad

" If ripping a CD to your hard drive is not illegal don't you think they want to extend this to mean that eventually? Then you have to buy a physical CD to listen to the music in the CD Players and you have to purchase online DRM-protected tracks if you want to listen to to the music on your portable player. It's the best of both worlds for them. They'll be back in power and stealing our money soon enough." even if they do the hackers will find a way around it-they'll NEVER stop us!!!!!!!!!!!

If ripping a CD to your hard drive is not illegal don't you think they want to extend this to mean that eventually? Then you have to buy a physical CD to listen to the music in the CD Players and you have to purchase online DRM-protected tracks if you want to listen to to the music on your portable player. It's the best of both worlds for them. They'll be back in power and stealing our money soon enough.

Boomer You make a valid point and my friends are dicks. I again am sorry for any offenses caused on these forums

It's funny to fight on the same user name I wondered what the was going on.. :) Murrhound is a nice name though where does it come from? Woof. It sounds like they are trying to have it that just ripping to an mp3 isn't legal but whatever they have it all mashed together when it would be better to separate it into points ripping as one and sharing as two explaining each.

By the way im not the owner of this name i happen to be using my friends computer and Im just trying to get him pissed off by posting asshole things. #7 is me #6 was him. So just keep talking trash and making him look like an ass.

Murrhound it is kind of dick of you to call people tards but jesus christ does milton go way to far. Its none of your business what murrhound does in his gay circle jerk. I dont think you should be letting everyone know that he does that anyway since your dad is usually in attendance of these circle jerks.

Hey milton just so you know intent to distribute and sharing are the same thing in the eyes of the law. You dont have the right to copy copy righted material and then allow others do make their own copys. Its still falls under piracy laws. When you share your weed you can still be charged with intent for distribution. Thats why people that get caught doing that kind of stuff also get charged with the sale of a controlled substance. So in the case of music the idea of sharing would still fall under the intent to distribute. If the person was selling the items then they could charge them with unlicensed sale of copy righted material. Two different charges and laws. So my apologies for having offended you. Im not disagreeing that the riaa is insane and that there should be some compromise in the p2p area but I will admit that Im stealing. Whats the difference in me stealing an album off the internet from me going to the store and taking it. Both are still causing the same exact problem. Again dont get me wrong I do dl music and will continue to do so.

watch who you call "tards." soul isnt one to grab news out of his ass if it sounds like it will make a stir. That being said you are correct. but its not like the RIAA has ever had a clear understanding of what is right; just what makes them the most money.

He is clearly saying that he was showing the intent to distribute and that is illegal as well. The actual copying is not what is being called illegal

I happen to be a in school for law and I had one of my teacher read this. He said that they were referring to the actual putting of the files online to be illegal not the copying of the files to the folder. Read you tards it says the copying of the files and putting them in the shared folder to be shared is illegal and sorry folks but it is.

lol riaa cunts.