Comments on: France to Ban Illegal File-Sharers From the Internet?

By: meyou123

meyou123 — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I think they will probably take this through the French court system. At least I hope they would try to do that anyway. Not just take it. If the French people take this lying down then they will have to live with the consequences. and here I thought the US was bad…..

By: Zoness

Zoness — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I highly doubt the industries will hold up their part of the agreement I’d say the French are fucked unless they challenge these laws. A few years ago France was a powerhouse on networks like eDonkey.

By: Spurge

Spurge — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I just shake my head hearing things like this. Laws just coming in without any debate. Disgusting.

I hope the French protest. But i doubt they will it’s like people everywhere has lost the will to fight governments because you know you can’t win anymore.

By: mountain_rage

mountain_rage — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

And Orwell becomes close and closer to being a prophet rather then a fiction writer. Sadly people have allowed corporations to become too powerful and in the process very few checks have been put in place to prevent politicians from taking advantage of this fact. As times goes on and oppression continues there is bound to be an uprising. When this time will come is unclear. Could be 50 years could be 200 but as things stand somethings going to give eventually.

By: Mord_Sith

Mord_Sith — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I say around 2020 myself but that’s simply because I enjoy the irony of that point in time perhaps France needs another diminutive megalomaniac to free them from the corporations like they did the kings of old maybe they’ll find their spine again amidst all the croissants that are laying about and call to verbal arms.

Who knows either way it’s one hell of a step back for freedom of speech and one hell of a step forward to tyranny.

By: altiopar

altiopar — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

lol they actually think we’ll buy their stuff just because we can’t download it? Most people I speak on the internet have ALREADY downloaded more stuff that they’ll be able to watch/hear/read in a few life times.

Besides since 99% of young people who use interent use p2p on a regular basis I’m guessing this is the end of internet.

By: Gamer8585

Gamer8585 — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

Actually this might be good for P2P. Allow me to explain my seemingly psychotic statement: They will only be able to ban people from the internet if they can prove that they downloaded illegally. So we may see a lot of French computer whizzes scramble to create better encryption tech and other new data obscuring techniques. If so the tech will spread and it may soon be impossible to tell what data is what or even locate with any certainty is point of origin/destination.

Then again the French might just mass strike and obstruct the workings of government and business until this law is repealed….its what they do.

By: Mord_Sith

Mord_Sith — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

Then they will declare that level of encryption illegal hell SSL encryption is illegal in some countries even if an encryption method is created for P2P only dollars to donuts it’ll become illegal.

By: JosefStalin

JosefStalin — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

If all illegal files were removed from the internet and P2P ended I wouldnt be terribly bothered. I already have enough games and porn to last me a lifetime. Im just being greedy and wasting hard drive space by downloading anything at this point. I play a game once and then pack it away to be burned onto DVD’s that I’ll never re-visit.

But as a kid I used to get some complete piece of crap like Clayfighter for the Genesis and play it for months. If a game that horrible was able to entertain me for so long surely these tens of thousands of games I now own should last me a lifetime. Its just about getting back to that mentality where a new game was actually something exciting to be played properly.

And as for porn…same story really. I used to buy a copy of Oriental Dolls and that would keep me busy for months. Now I have gigs of hardcore porn that I watch once (if that) and then burn it and send it to my spindle never to be looked at again. I’m just hoarding the stuff for when the apocolypse comes I guess. Porn will become currency and I’ll rule the wastelands.

By: reachnet

reachnet — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

In otherwords – copyright owners have failed to halt illegal filesharing – so the buck is passed to ISPs.
The question then is how will ISPs comply with this frankly uncompliable and complete piece of bollocks legislation ( oh I forgot – Govt has discharged its current responsibilities – so they don’t really care anymore ) ?
They’ll (ISPs) be forced to employ peeps whose “Job Function” is exactly the same as those peeps in the MPAA blah..blah.. who obviously can’t really be arsed doing it anymore – can’t say I blame em’.

Will Govts EVER learn ? ( oops silly question – by the nature of how they function they NEVER will – they just keep employing dumbkopfs ).
i.e. Don’t mess with things you don’t understand – human creativity that operates at an IQ level you can never hope to reach – but at least it keeps your wage packet rolling in.

Oh BTW – to mountain_rage – have you ever thought that the whole MS Corp empire is actually a backlash against US Govt control ?
When you really think about it-even MS CREATE (although the quality is sometimes up for debate – but that’s not really the point). Creativity can’t function under duress. When you think about it like that you might realise that MS are actually being the biggest proponents of free-speech possible – they’re dealing with Govt based control-mechanisms just like the rest of us are – but so long as they keep CREATING (even if its CRUD) their system self-perpetuates – just like Govt based-systems do. The MS system survives/prospers on application of natural IQ to be creative.
You’ve then got something very easy to understand – two “pyramid based” systems – one based on control the other based on creativity – NOT CONTROL (Capitalism) – perpetual battle. If you believe in reincarnation you could come back in a thousand years and you’ll still see the same battle(s) going on – just the mechanisms used will have probably changed. The players may change but the game will ALWAYS remain the same.
What’s the moral ? Easy – IQ wants to CREATE. Govts who by definition of how they function – CAN’T create want CONTROL. Paradox – You can’t control creativity (nor should you EVER try) ! You sure as hell better respect it when you recognise it though !
The only thing you can do is try and play cat n’ mouse with it – if it goes against your own “agenda”. Unfortunately for Govts the mice are often way more intelligent than the cats ! Welcome to the world of evolution !
Wonder if this is what the big man upstairs (i.e God) – yeah.. you know.. him.. had in mind ???
What scares the shit out of Govts ? Imagine a World (for example) where we all think and act like Bill Gates/JK Rowling ?
You never know – it might happen one day. In an ideal World it’s where we’d all be – but we’re not quite there yet !
Some of us are working on it though !