Democrats: ‘Colleges Must Stop File-Sharers or Lose Federal Aid’

Try reading the Conquest for Bread Yay! lets spread communist propaganda in a blog! That might sound sarcastic but the conquest for bread is pretty interesting oo

@stbgamefan87 excellent stuff!! i've been wanting to know more about the subject your link goes some way in doing that. now i feel so..."educated". thanks

China is not a communist country. If the 14 year old wants a source here it is http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm This link takes you to the full book of the Communist Manifesto which I'm sure you have not read. This contains the true definition of communism and it is obvious that neither China or the Soviet Union were communist states. I must note that I'm not a communist but it irritates me to watch a 14 year old act like hes smarter than a college educated person. This is the kind of stuff we read in college and you should read it too if you want to argue with us regardless of whether or not you are a communist.

*No...that was weird

I'm glad we're getting back onto the original topic and I in know way say China is a great free country I just mean that communism does NOT necessarily mean lack of freedom and that the previous countries that have tried communism did it wrong or it just didn't work due to citizens greediness etc. Do not associate communism with lack of freedom. You can do that with China if you want I don't care but not communism.

Hey all you have to do is look at Iran and Venuzualla and see Communisum doing it's sneek attack on what formerly were Free People that had a voice in World Matters now controlled by "Twisted Leaders " They want Total Control of the Worlds economies through OIL! These Fuckers want to break the Western Nations Economies and make the Dollar Worthless. Guess Who would lose in that "Shituation" ? All of Us !!!!!

"Honestly who cares what China is or isn't? The fact is that if you walked around there screaming this government fucking sucks wearing an american t-shirt... you'd probably be killed.... if not severely beaten. I don't need any sources for that it's plain and simple. The whole point of the conversation is that if the US starts passing shit like this we aren't much of a free country anymore. Being "forced" to do anything isn't exactly freedom. The whole point is that in China they could pass a law like this and make you fucking like it... but in the US they need to stand up against this kinda shit if they want to keep what little freedom they have left." That was what I was trying to get across to these assholes! They think somehow because they call China capitolist that they somehow allow free elections and equal rights....hell America is in danger of losing it's rights if thingsdon't change....we are going to be completely run by big business (or big brother...whichever you prefer to call them) but the Chinese people have not HAD rights in the first place! But some people cannot understand that.

You do not understand what communism is and the only links you provide are wikipedia links which are hardly reputable. Get over yourself. At least I provide links and all you provide is HOT AIR asshole! YOU get over it

Honestly who cares what China is or isn't? The fact is that if you walked around there screaming this government fucking sucks wearing an american t-shirt... you'd probably be killed.... if not severely beaten. I don't need any sources for that it's plain and simple. The whole point of the conversation is that if the US starts passing shit like this we aren't much of a free country anymore. Being "forced" to do anything isn't exactly freedom. The whole point is that in China they could pass a law like this and make you fucking like it... but in the US they need to stand up against this kinda shit if they want to keep what little freedom they have left.

What I find funny about this is most of the people I know from China hate to be called communist they prefer to be called socialists... so I still call them communists just to tweak them. links: None (since this was done in person over the last 4 years at a university)

You do not understand what communism is and the only links you provide are wikipedia links which are hardly reputable. Get over yourself.

You don't even understand WHAT communisim is or it's idealogy so there is no point trying to convince you. Some of you are the biggest idiots. You want to say what you say and act like it is fact! But you have NO PROOF or linkS to back you up! I have! Get over it!

We can't understand the ideology of Communism? Lets do it your way then: "Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production" That is taken from the wikipedia article on communism. Now from china: "The will of Chinese citizens is expressed through the legislative bodies of the People's Congress system. People's Congress members at the county level are elected by voters." That does not sound stateless nor does it sound classless.

God some of the people on this board are ignorant fucks! They cannot even understand what kind of idealogy the communist party has. It is like arguing with 5 year olds. I give up.

"I'm not going to continue to discuss political theory with a 14 year old. Ask your freshman civics teacher for some after school tutoring. You clearly need the extra help." Stupid fuck all you can do is down me when you know I am right! Go fuck yourself. "Holy shit....you have no fucking idea what communism is do you? Communism is NOT A COMMUNIST PARTY RULING THE COUNTRY. You are even more retarded then i originally thought.Communism is a way of government not a party of government. This is like talking to an 8 year old. You seem to like wikipedia a lot go look in there for the definition of communism before you start arguing about it you ignorant prick. Idiot..." Look you DUMB FUCK I gave links to PROVE what I said! If you cannot read....learn how to! Because the COMMUNIST PARTY DOES RULE THE COUNTRY! It's ideals do and there IS a communist party dumbass! You really need help!

I think my dad was santa in 1985 or 1986 if that helps He had the red costume anyway. Well if you think China is Communist....

Well technically the kids right the world never has seen true communism only the pre-stages of in the form of whats referred to as Stalinism Maoism etc. but when "the man" says he owns all your shit I'd be calling a "commie" I know that much. Stalin believed that the real power lay in the urban intellectuals and Mao that it lay with agrarian peasants who comprised the bulk of his country. This was ultimately exploited by Nixon in creating the infamous Russo - Sino split in the 1970's. Not sure why this discussion went here but oh well.

I'm not going to continue to discuss political theory with a 14 year old. Ask your freshman civics teacher for some after school tutoring. You clearly need the extra help.

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Holy shit....you have no fucking idea what communism is do you? Communism is NOT A COMMUNIST PARTY RULING THE COUNTRY. You are even more retarded then i originally thought.Communism is a way of government not a party of government. This is like talking to an 8 year old. You seem to like wikipedia a lot go look in there for the definition of communism before you start arguing about it you ignorant prick. Idiot...

"Once again as I have said before the countries you describe have not reached TOTAL communism. Once again know what you're talking about before you sound like a total ignorant idiot. The communist countries in the past even the USSR weren't even that communistic but more totalitarianistic (if those are words). Please read what I say and try getting a source that isn't generated by other retards like yourself." You're an ignorant fuck! In the FIRST place the communist party RULES the government. They deny (do you know what they means prick?) basic human rights to their people! But a dumb fuck like you would not care about that all you want to do is make a point a point I have already stomped on! How "communist" do you think it should be? They control every aspect of the chinese government and CENSOR what they do not like to see idiot. That shows what a dumb fuck you are. And as far as the idiot josefstalin.... "I understand that the party is called the "Community Party". But this does not make them communist and they dont even claim to be communist. They claim to be socialist. The "communist" in the title just refers to the idea that they're striving for one day having a communist system of government. Its completely ridiculous that your "proof" of the Chinese government being communist is that theyre called the "Communist Party". People can call themselves whatever they want. Thats not proof of anything. The proof is how the government actually runs the country. And with this in mind post-modern China is clearly a capitalist country." YOUR claims that they are not communist are stupid! Again you fail to come up with links to PROVE you are right because you KNOW I am! And how the communist party runs the Chinese government? Are you actually serious? Man you are one blind idiot. If you cannot see how repressive the government in China really is then maybe you should shut you big fat mouth and try living there for a change instead of your blabberings about how great they really are. It DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE HELL THEY CLAIM STUPID! It matters what the facts are! Are you really that ignorant that you would believe their government propaganda? Maybe you should ask some of the people that have tried democratic reform there and ask them what has happened to them for trying it! The fact is that they are a government controlled by the COMMUNIST PARTY ! If you cannot understand that you need to go back to elementary school. Because you are trying to change facts and YOU CAN'T DO IT! The fact remians that the government of China IS controlled by the communist party! PERIOD! You are SPLITTING HAIRS here. Where did I ever say or even bring into the discussion they were like the russian communist party? I never said anything about the russians. But you want to make your point so bad you bring them into this discussion and you look like a fool. Next time try proving with some credible links that I am wrong about the communist party controlled government controlling what their people do IDIOT!

I Love it When an Article about Democrats turns to Communism !!!!!! Point is Well Taken Thanks ! See YA! in 2008 !!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again as I have said before the countries you describe have not reached TOTAL communism. Once again know what you're talking about before you sound like a total ignorant idiot. The communist countries in the past even the USSR weren't even that communistic but more totalitarianistic (if those are words). Please read what I say and try getting a source that isn't generated by other retards like yourself.

I like arguments on nomenclature and symantics and espically those based on opinion. Makes it difficult to have a true winner. By the way to JosefStalin failure to sight resources will cost you points. Good researchers should site refernces were applicable to prove points. And while much enjoyed name calling does give any points to either side but it ups the entertainment factor.

I understand that the party is called the "Community Party". But this does not make them communist and they dont even claim to be communist. They claim to be socialist. The "communist" in the title just refers to the idea that they're striving for one day having a communist system of government. Its completely ridiculous that your "proof" of the Chinese government being communist is that theyre called the "Communist Party". People can call themselves whatever they want. Thats not proof of anything. The proof is how the government actually runs the country. And with this in mind post-modern China is clearly a capitalist country.

I love arguments like these. They entertain me. Who's going to win???

And here is ANOTHER link that backs up my claim. Read the first sentance if you are smart enough to read. "I dont have to provide links to prove my claims. I've done the research. Books newspapers critical thinking etc." No. because your afraid you will be PROVED WRONG! Your just an asshole that wants to be right when the facts say you are WRONG! http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0857294.html China is a one-party state with real power lying with the Chinese Communist party. Idiot maybe you should try reading more and getting your own links. And if "going out with a chinese girl"makes you somehow think that you are some kind of expert on the politics of China I feel sorry for you ! And MY link even in WIKIPEDIA ALSO SAYS THIS: The leadership of the Communist Party is elected in the PRC Constitution. IDIOT! Learn how to READ NEXT TIME before making stupid statements.

I dont have to provide links to prove my claims. I've done the research. Books newspapers critical thinking etc. And anyway your own link proves what Im saying. "the People's Republic of China take place in a framework of a single-party socialist republic" "SOCIALIST REPUBLIC". Thats what the Chinese government officials claim China to be. They never claim to be communist. They claim to be moving toward communism. Same as the Soviet Union used to claim. But theyre much more capitalist than socialist. Same as the Soviet Union was starting with the Gorbachev administration. And unlike you I actually do know Chinese people. Gone out with a few lucky Chinese ladies in my time. And they will all tell you that China is a capitalist country. And theyre correct. I take no pleasure in pwning a 14 year old and Im not suggesting you should really read up on politics (at your age anyway) but just realize the limits of your knowledge. You are an idiot pure and simple! You cannot prove what you say so you spew out more bullshit. Go away 10 year old! And for Eklen that thinks communist rule is so great...why don't you go over there and find out stupid? You are just some idiot that believes what commnuisim whnts you to believe...that they really are for the people. And assholes....at least I provided a link but all you can do is spew bullshit! Why? Are you so stupid you cannot provide links of your own?

I love that the source he uses is wikipedia. And pure communism has not yet been achieved nor does it hinder your freedom. That's just the kind of crap that is put into peoples heads to make them fear communism. I am an anarchist communist. Something that currently can only exist in a small society with people sharing the same ideals. As for china and russia--which is now a democratic country--they are nowhere near close to total communism. Stop being a retard now please and understand what you say.

I dont have to provide links to prove my claims. I've done the research. Books newspapers critical thinking etc. And anyway your own link proves what Im saying. "the People's Republic of China take place in a framework of a single-party socialist republic" "SOCIALIST REPUBLIC". Thats what the Chinese government officials claim China to be. They never claim to be communist. They claim to be moving toward communism. Same as the Soviet Union used to claim. But theyre much more capitalist than socialist. Same as the Soviet Union was starting with the Gorbachev administration. And unlike you I actually do know Chinese people. Gone out with a few lucky Chinese ladies in my time. And they will all tell you that China is a capitalist country. And theyre correct. I take no pleasure in pwning a 14 year old and Im not suggesting you should really read up on politics (at your age anyway) but just realize the limits of your knowledge.

So...your qualifications are that you read an article on Wikipedia? Hardly makes you an expert on political theory does it? In any event China has been a capitalist country since circa the Deng Xiaoping era. And certainly today China is a capitalist country. People can open businesses have private ownership etc. Im opposed to such things so why would I go to China to try to strengthen capitalism? I'm also not interested in any "democratic reform". I know you're like 14 but if you dont know what you're talking about just don't post on the subject. I never claimed to be an expert on anything did I stupid? But I can use common sense. Apparently you cannot even come up with any links of your own to disprove what I just posted. So I gave you an answer and you don't like it. TOUGH! I gave you a valid link to prove what I was saying was true and all I have heard out of you is bullshit. Anyonecan say anything on the internet dumbass! I think you are a LIAR about your education and where you have been also. So stop your bullshit no one believes you. I know your nothing but a 10 year old but try to understand that China is a communist country! If you cannot understand that you need to go back to school....ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. And as far as people owning businesses yes they can but they are still controlled by a communist government. Don't believe me? Try asking someone who is from China. Now I just proved you were wrong so lets stop with this bullshit. China is a communist country period. They are controlled by a government that is oppressive for the most part even though they allow what they call elections and have some similarities with western society. Can you get that through your skull or are you too dumb to understand that? They do have what you would call "elections" but they are hardly free elections. So your stupid comment about "nothing being wrong with pure communisim" is bogus! Mabye if you lived under that regime and said you didn't mind I could have a little more respect for you. But I have NONE for you now. And back to the point stupid what the US congress is doing is wrong. It is proposing using taxpayer dollars to go after file sharers when other things could be benifited from that money. We did not elect these clowns to go after filesharers! We elected them to improve security at the southern border end the war in Iraq secure our ports Pass laws to PROTECT US FROM DANGEROUS IMPORTS from governments like the Chinese Government and yes even try to balance a budget that is spiraling out of control. But have they done any of that? No. No wonder the US Congress has gotten one of the lowest approval ratings in history.

Wonder how much the RIAA paid for this bill? The U.S. is a SINGLE party country. Why do we bother to vote at all when corporations (and their trade org.) are running the country.

u still use the old system because it's a tripartite separation of powers (legislatureexecutive and judiciary) without which the country could become even more messed up than it already is. im not from america but my country ireland like most countries has a very similar system of Government (with a capital G meaning 'the state' as the term government is itself also interchangable with the executive branch of the state) and its basically designed so that no one branch of the state can ever have more power than any of the others. it doesnt work however when all of those branches are corrupt anyway..like they seem to be in america

I Know I spelled Executed Wrong My Degree told Me so !!!!!! LOL

Wasn't one of the Officials in China responsible for Trade with the U.S. recently Executeded over Tainted Food Drugs or Lead paint on products exported to the U.S.A. ? Here in the U.S. they might spend a Few Thousand Dollars and Hire a Good Lawyer and get a Light Sentence or Fine !!!!

Why do we still use a government process (house of rep. and sentate) that was created 250 years ago? In today's day and age we have the Internet. We don't even need state and federal representatives to support us "the people". There should be an official federal website that "the people" can vote for their own bills on. What do you guys think about this? I think we still use the old system because it gives certain people the power that they are used to having.

How do we "the people" fight against bills like this anyone know?

ok if i was a university i would say screw the federal aid and just raise the tuition charges to offset the costs.

So...your qualifications are that you read an article on Wikipedia? Hardly makes you an expert on political theory does it? In any event China has been a capitalist country since circa the Deng Xiaoping era. And certainly today China is a capitalist country. People can open businesses have private ownership etc. Im opposed to such things so why would I go to China to try to strengthen capitalism? I'm also not interested in any "democratic reform". I know you're like 14 but if you dont know what you're talking about just don't post on the subject.

And if you think China is so free why don't you go over there and try democratic reform???...maybe you might get run over by a tank.

"Another brilliant insight from "meyou123". China is a capitalist country. And before that it was a socialist country (as they still claim to be). At no time did China (or the Soviet Union) claim to be communist countries. And they werent. Anyway I'm interested as to what your politial theory qualifications are. I have a degree in political science left the US and did some work for a mainstream non-US political party support a revolutionary party and read many books and newspapers on politics and political theory." And another stupid insight from someone who thinks they know it all. China is a COMMUNIST NATION IDIOT! Where the hell do you get that they are capitolist? READ: he Politics of the People's Republic of China take place in a framework of a single-party socialist republic. The leadership of the Communist Party is elected in the PRC Constitution. State power within the PRC is exercised through the Communist Party of China the Central People's Government and their provincial and local counterparts. Under the dual leadership system each local bureau or office is under the theoretically co-equal authority of the local leader and the leader of the corresponding office bureau or ministry at the next higher level. The will of Chinese citizens is expressed through the legislative bodies of the People's Congress system. People's Congress members at the county level are elected by voters. These county level People's Congresses have the responsibility of oversight of local government and elect members to the Provincial (or Municipal in the case of independent municipalities) People's Congress. The Provincial People's Congress in turn elects members to the National People's Congress that meets each year in March in Beijing. [1] The ruling Communist Party committee at each level plays a large role in the selection of appropriate candidates for election to the local congress and to the higher levels. "State power within the PRC is exercised through the Communist Party of China the Central People's Government and their provincial and local counterparts." SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China

I like people like JosefStalin his ranting demonstrates just how funny some people can be.

"MMMM...Smells like BlackMale to me" Please keep your inter-racial homoerotic fantasies to youself. I don't know or care what black males smell like. "There is if you like freedom if not then why don't you go to Chin? It is still alive and well there!" Another brilliant insight from "meyou123". China is a capitalist country. And before that it was a socialist country (as they still claim to be). At no time did China (or the Soviet Union) claim to be communist countries. And they werent. Anyway I'm interested as to what your politial theory qualifications are. I have a degree in political science left the US and did some work for a mainstream non-US political party support a revolutionary party and read many books and newspapers on politics and political theory.

This is non news. Harvard has made it quite clear where it stands on this issue and now Yale has added it's name to that list. The MPAA is powerful but it's an ant next to the combined forces of Harvard and Yale alumni. Harvard and Yale rule the country.

"There is nothing wrong with pure communism ."Talk about the Government interfering with everyones Life ! LOL

"There is nothing wrong with pure communism." There is if you like freedom if not then why don't you go to Chin? It is still alive and well there!

MMMM...Smells like BlackMale to me

There is nothing wrong with pure communism. As for this supposedly for the bettering of education when it seems that all they want to do is fuck up students. This fucking country annoys me. So...when does Glickman die and the MPAA implode?

Democrats have some good Ideas However THEY have MANY FRIENDS in the Entertainment Buisness and would love nothing more than to go to War with the SO CALLED PIRATES that are Stealing from their Social Society Friends the very things to make them even More Rich ! These Social Society (Actor/Producer/song Writer/Artist/Corporate)Types Contribute Huge Sums of Cash for the Democrat Party. So This will be on the Platter in the 2008 Election Season and beyond if they Regain total control of power in the Senate House And the Presedency. Keep at the Very least a Two Party Control to prevent a Witchhunt

Democrats are a freaking bunch or pricks! Then why dont ALL of the college kids start downloading and using p2p. What are they going to do? close all of the colleges? That would go over well *rolls eyes.* of course that would be something they would do while they have their heads up their ass!