Comments on: China Taking P2P to the Next Level? http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:14:45 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mountain_rage http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182072 mountain_rage Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182072 Ive said it before and I will say it again. Unless the United States is willing to reform copyright and patent laws to be less restrictive they will start to loose allot of market to China. The current laws are hampering innovation at the benefit of big firms and patent sitters. Things have to change and the only way to that to happen is to have a political party with balls to do the right thing. In fact its not just the United States as he said any country willing to allow the Mpaa or RIAA some control is affected. When will someone high up see the damage all these restrictions are causing. Ive said it before and I will say it again. Unless the United States is willing to reform copyright and patent laws to be less restrictive they will start to loose allot of market to China. The current laws are hampering innovation at the benefit of big firms and patent sitters. Things have to change and the only way to that to happen is to have a political party with balls to do the right thing. In fact its not just the United States as he said any country willing to allow the Mpaa or RIAA some control is affected. When will someone high up see the damage all these restrictions are causing.

]]> By: iamyour41 http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182073 iamyour41 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182073 I would bet my left testicle over the fact that within the next 10-20 years the US will NOT be the top dog. Think about it. We have screwed ourselves so HARD that you can't even manufacture in this country. We import literally everything we have. I mean think about it. You get up and put on your shirt made in Turkey. Sit at your desk made in China.. and get on your computer made in Taiwan... listen to your headphones made in Japan. The technology leader is China. (Which is the future.) The US currency worth goes down every year due to inflation. (1 U.S. dollar = 0.704970039 Euros) We keep making up BS laws to eff ourselves.... things just aren't looking good for us. I would bet my left testicle over the fact that within the next 10-20 years the US will NOT be the top dog. Think about it. We have screwed ourselves so HARD that you can’t even manufacture in this country. We import literally everything we have. I mean think about it. You get up and put on your shirt made in Turkey. Sit at your desk made in China.. and get on your computer made in Taiwan… listen to your headphones made in Japan. The technology leader is China. (Which is the future.) The US currency worth goes down every year due to inflation. (1 U.S. dollar = 0.704970039 Euros) We keep making up BS laws to eff ourselves…. things just aren’t looking good for us.

]]> By: Spurge http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182074 Spurge Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182074 Sounds about right. Although I wonder what the Chinese authorities will think of the content on offer once these P2P app.s take off given their political stance. Maybe times are changing? Where can i download this P2p beast :) Sounds about right. Although I wonder what the Chinese authorities will think of the content on offer once these P2P app.s take off given their political stance.

Maybe times are changing? Where can i download this P2p beast :)

]]> By: meyou123 http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182075 meyou123 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182075 You can blame the decline of innovation in p2p and technology in the US on the idiotic media mafia that has a stranglehold on lawmakers. Until they wise up in congress I am afraid technology and related jobs are going to continue to decline. You can blame the decline of innovation in p2p and technology in the US on the idiotic media mafia that has a stranglehold on lawmakers. Until they wise up in congress I am afraid technology and related jobs are going to continue to decline.

]]> By: Zoness http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182076 Zoness Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182076 Isn't it ironic how a locked down government like China is starting to surpass us? But realistically thinking its not like were totally free...the media lobbyists and big business control our lives. Isn’t it ironic how a locked down government like China is starting to surpass us? But realistically thinking its not like were totally free…the media lobbyists and big business control our lives.

]]> By: soulxtc http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182077 soulxtc Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182077 @Zioness especially if u consider how they go to great lengths to hold hostage be it in a closed wi-fi network or the iPhone cell phone contracts etc etc. @Zioness
especially if u consider how they go to great lengths to hold hostage be it in a closed wi-fi network or the iPhone cell phone contracts etc etc.

]]> By: Gamer8585 http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182078 Gamer8585 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182078 Well if their developing these super fast clients and protocols whats stopping it from getting out of China???? Why doesn't someone just grab a client from a site Reverse Engineer it and create an new (maybe even improved) client for other nations??? Also although this makes China sound good don't forget their HORRIBLE human rights record and the constant stifling of free speech free press etc. What do you think will happen to this tech when people start viewing video's of Tienanmen Square or speeches from the Dali Lama? The protocols will be blocked by "the golden shield" and it'll be considered and "Enemy of the People" and anyone caught with it will be sent to be "reeducated." Don't forget the crimes that for decades these amoral oligarchs have committed against their own people just to stay in power waaaay worse then the stuff that goes on in Guantanamo Bay. Well if their developing these super fast clients and protocols whats stopping it from getting out of China????
Why doesn’t someone just grab a client from a site Reverse Engineer it and create an new (maybe even improved) client for other nations???
Also although this makes China sound good don’t forget their HORRIBLE human rights record and the constant stifling of free speech free press etc.

What do you think will happen to this tech when people start viewing video’s of Tienanmen Square or speeches from the Dali Lama?
The protocols will be blocked by “the golden shield” and it’ll be considered and “Enemy of the People” and anyone caught with it will be sent to be “reeducated.”

Don’t forget the crimes that for decades these amoral oligarchs have committed against their own people just to stay in power waaaay worse then the stuff that goes on in Guantanamo Bay.

]]> By: mountain_rage http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182079 mountain_rage Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182079 We never said they aren't being atrocious towards their people gamer but truth be told they are more progressive with their patent and copyright restrictions which is allowing their technology sector to balloon. That innovation is unrelated to their human right issues. We never said they aren’t being atrocious towards their people gamer but truth be told they are more progressive with their patent and copyright restrictions which is allowing their technology sector to balloon. That innovation is unrelated to their human right issues.

]]> By: soulxtc http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182080 soulxtc Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182080 @Gamer What good is a file-sharing or P2P service if the RIAA and MPAA try to bust any US user who connects to it? TorrentSpy KaZaA Grokster and now Usenet the land is filled with examples of the MPAA and RIAA making it so that users in the US are limited in their options and choices when it comes to P2P sites and services. Sure check out Blin.cn but the CONTENT's IN CHINESE for heaven's sake and what good is a client without hosted content? Who would hosts be? Would the whole world be asked to be the servant hosts of the US so we can grab content as we please? P2P imperialism? It certainly wouldn't be people in the US because even absolute file-sharing anonymity would merely ensure the RIAA and MPAA's aggressive pursuit of ISP content filtering. And the human right abuses bring up a good point in that if a country is so backward in its treatment of people as human beings then why are they so progressive in other areas? Could it be because they actually keep business and corporate interests on a short leash unlike supposed "enlightened" countries like the US? It really makes you wonder what the lesser of the two evils is - a society run according to the dictates of govt or that of big business. Could it be that we are in fact the backward ones when it comes to the issue of copyright and intellectual property laws? It should serve as a wake up call that maybe just maybe the US is doing something wrong. Imagine that. @Gamer
What good is a file-sharing or P2P service if the RIAA and MPAA try to bust any US user who connects to it?
TorrentSpy KaZaA Grokster and now Usenet the land is filled with examples of the MPAA and RIAA making it so that users in the US are limited in their options and choices when it comes to P2P sites and services.

Sure check out Blin.cn but the CONTENT’s IN CHINESE for heaven’s sake and what good is a client without hosted content? Who would hosts be? Would the whole world be asked to be the servant hosts of the US so we can grab content as we please? P2P imperialism? It certainly wouldn’t be people in the US because even absolute file-sharing anonymity would merely ensure the RIAA and MPAA’s aggressive pursuit of ISP content filtering.

And the human right abuses bring up a good point in that if a country is so backward in its treatment of people as human beings then why are they so progressive in other areas? Could it be because they actually keep business and corporate interests on a short leash unlike supposed “enlightened” countries like the US? It really makes you wonder what the lesser of the two evils is – a society run according to the dictates of govt or that of big business.

Could it be that we are in fact the backward ones when it comes to the issue of copyright and intellectual property laws?

It should serve as a wake up call that maybe just maybe the US is doing something wrong. Imagine that.

]]> By: meyou123 http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9057/china_taking_p2p_to_the_next_level/#comment-182081 meyou123 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-182081 I think people are jumping the gun a bit on usenet but it is true that the RIAA and MPAA think they own the US technology section which they clearly do not. But I don't think the battle on filesharing is over. Far from it. In order to win this war you have to actually control every aspect of p2p....something the RIAA and MPAA will not be able to do ever. Look at how filesharing has GROWN....not diminished......despite all these new laws and restrictions. You would think the opposite would have happened but it hasn't. They knock down one p2p service only to have ten more like it take it's place....if they were smart....the RIAA would have stopped at Napster and tried to make a deal. Too late now. No matter what they try it is simply not going to be successful....they may have victories here and there but I would say that this p2p war with the RIAA and MPAA is going about as well as the war on drugs between the drug dealers and the police! I think people are jumping the gun a bit on usenet but it is true that the RIAA and MPAA think they own the US technology section which they clearly do not.

But I don’t think the battle on filesharing is over. Far from it.

In order to win this war you have to actually control every aspect of p2p….something the RIAA and MPAA will not be able to do ever.

Look at how filesharing has GROWN….not diminished……despite all these new laws and restrictions. You would think the opposite would have happened but it hasn’t.

They knock down one p2p service only to have ten more like it take it’s place….if they were smart….the RIAA would have stopped at Napster and tried to make a deal. Too late now.

No matter what they try it is simply not going to be successful….they may have victories here and there but I would say that this p2p war with the RIAA and MPAA is going about as well as the war on drugs between the drug dealers and the police!

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