Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America, claims P2P has “stolen file-sharers minds,” and that they’ll do anything to justify their illegal behavior.
Every once in a while I get an angry letter from this songwriter or that songwriter angry about my apparent endorsement of, or even alleged involvement in, illegal file-sharing, and thus my complicity in their industry’s woes. Both claims belie the truth.
Recently, in addition to a hate-spewing diatribe about how I will eventually face a “federal judge” and be forced to explain why I’m a “delinquent thief,” he passed along an article written a few months back by Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America, entitled “Has Stealing Music Stolen Your Mind?”
Now it too is a compilation of rants filled with hyperbole and conjecture, but what else would you expect from an outfit that opposes Net Neutrality. rather than toss both into my spam box I decided to debate Carnes’ assertions and do what the person who sent me the email refused to do: engage in an honest debate.
Here are Carnes’ claims:
1. Artists aren’t getting paid anyway.
Well, according to some reports they really aren’t. Even if an artist does manage to sell X number of albums he can earn as little as $23.40 for every $1,000 in music sold depending on the number of members in the band ($23.40 is based on 4 bandmates splitting proceeds equally).
More than $870 of the $1,000 in music sold goes to distributors ($240) and the record label ($630) so it’s clear artists aren’t getting paid, it’s just a matter of who’s more to blame. I think non-creative entities taking home a lion’s share of the profits of an artist’s work is what’s really troubling.
And according to a study conducted by the Canadian govt P2P actually increase legal music purchases.
“Our review of existing econometric studies suggests that P2P file-sharing tends to decrease music purchasing. However, we find the opposite, namely that P2P file-sharing tends to increase rather than decrease music purchasing.”
The BI Norwegian School of Management, the largest business school in Norway and the second largest in all of Europe, determined last year in a similar file-sharing study, “Consumer Culture in Times of Crisis,” that file-sharers actually buy twice as much music as they download for free, and buy nearly 10 times more music than those who never download illegally.
So even though file-sharers may not be paying for some of their music they are clearly still having a more positive effect than those who don’t, especially considering that MP3s are infinite resource that costs them nothing in packaging and distribution costs.
Artists like Mick Jagger have pointed out that artists have always struggled.
Earlier this year he said: “When The Rolling Stones started out, we didn’t make any money out of records because record companies wouldn’t pay you! They didn’t pay anyone!.”
He also said that if you look at the history of recorded music going back to 1900 there was only a narrow 25-year period where artists did well. During the other 85+ years artists have struggled.
Freelance pianist David J.Hahn observed last year that musicians have been around long before the music industry and that no matter what will always be here.
“The musician industry has been around as long as humans have, but recorded music is, relatively, a very new invention,” he says. “Mozart never sold a record. Beethoven never released an album. Yet they made careers as musicians.”
2. Artists and songwriters are all rich, and don’t need the money.
Aside from big artists like the U2s, Elton Johns, or the perpetually whining Lars Ulrich of Mettallica, I don’t think anybody will claim that artists and songwriters are “all rich” and “don’t need the money.” It’s hyperbole of the first order.
3. Record labels need a new business model.
Of course they do, and to argue otherwise would mean ones “mind has been stolen” as surely as has the minds of the befuddled execs that have run them in to the ground over the years. It took years of wrangling just to get allow Apple’s iTunes to get up and running and years more to get rid of DRM.
Even now it refuses to give consumers what they want.
Techdirt’s Michael Masnick gave a spectacular presentation last year entitled “Serving Your Fans – The Trent Reznor Case Study” in which he argues that artists need to connect with fans and give them a reason to buy.
Connect With Fans (CwF) + Reason To Buy (RtB) = The Business Model ($$$$)
He notes that buying an album is a voluntary transaction, and that it’s nonsensical for artists to think to “think that there is some sort of obligation to buy.”
As for record labels, he rightly points out that the music industry needs to realize that illegal file-sharing is here to stay and that it instead of wasting its focus on a losing battle against it it ought to instead “return to business (RtB)” and learn how to “compete with free (CwF),” an alternative formula to the one given previous.
Compete with Free (CwF) + Return to Business (RtB) = The Business Model ($$$$)
Imagine if the RIAA had done this 10 years ago rather than making lawsuits, and likely guaranteeing the targets never buy music again in disgust, a central tenet of its business model.
4. Stolen music promotes live shows.
Of course it does. Why is this a bad thing? If P2P is the reason you hear an artist hear an artist in the first place and thereby go to one of his concerts – where he gets the lion’s share of the profits this time – surely that is a good thing.
No music download site – legal or otherwise – will ever compare to the selection available on What.CD or Waffles.fm. It’s just a fact. Apple’s iTunes and other legal download sites restrict content based on legal or economic considerations, whereas BitTorrent tracker sites like the two I mentioned do not. Hence, they will naturally always have an edge on promoting music and thus live shows.
Hip hop megastar 50 Cent has even referred to P2P as “part of the marketing” necessary to make up for what the record labels are no longer able to afford.
And artists like Canadian Indie folk-rock singer Daniel Mangan says he “doesn’t mind” people illegally sharing his music online it if it means they’ll attend one of his concerts and “have a real face to face, human interaction.”
5. Stolen songs don’t displace a sale, (the perp wouldn’t buy it anyway).
In many cases he wouldn’t and he likes it he usual will as concluded by the studies I cited above. With some file-sharers having MP3 collections in excess of 100s of GBs it is illogical to suggest they would have shelled out tens of thousands of dollars to acquire it legally. Even a measly 64GB Apple iPod would costs more than $16,000 to fill.
That’s not to say that some don’t, but the operative word is “some.” There’s also the consideration that P2P turned people on to a given song in the first place and lead to a purchase.
6. I want it all my way, and I want it now (convenience).
Criticizing people for merely being consumers is hardly a worthy argument. Don’t all consumers want what they want when they want it? The ability to satisfy these demands are what makes or breaks all businesses in a capitalist society. Ignoring consumers for more than a decade is the reason why the music industry is in the tank.
7. Destroy the ‘gatekeepers’ and the little guy wins.
If buy “little guy” you mean artists of course they do. Before digital distribution artists were at the mercy of record execs who got to make or break their careers. Now artists can produce and distribute music on their own terms! Why should record labels be able to determine what music fans do or do not get to hear?
How can leaving it up to record labels be a good thing? Look at the crap they trotted out from the late 1990s to mid 2000s.
8. Information wants to be free!
Non-sequitur. What does that have to do with the reality of digital music in the 21st century? Music is not information. It’s an experience for which people are in most cases willing to pay for, either in person (concert) or remotely (MP3).. You’re arguing against a myth and not the actual economics of what’s being discussed. Its akin to screaming “I’m rubber and you’re glue.”
As Cory Doctorow points out, it’s time for the saying “to die.”
“It’s time for IWTBF to die because it’s become the easiest, laziest straw man for Hollywood’s authoritarian bullies to throw up as a justification for the monotonic increase of surveillance, control, and censorship in our networks and tools,” he says.”
And he’s right. It does little to advance ones argument.
9. Illegal downloading is ‘sticking it to the man!’
Anybody who uses the phrase “sticking it to the man” is probably not a rational person to begin with. That being said, I’ll bet even these guys (and gals) still buy concert tickets, t-shirts, and the occasional CD or MP3.
10. The copyright term of protection is too long.
Are you really arguing it isn’t? 70 years after an artist’s death (it was changed to 70 from 50 in 1998) mainly enriches rightsholders like record labels. Spouses and children, the economic well-being of whom copyright laws are intended to benefit by this lengthy protection, are hardly the main beneficiaries.
Let us assume a copyright term of 70 years after the death of the author is applied to a work, and that the author, after having children at age 25, dies at the age of 75 . The author dies the same year his great-grandchild is born; this descendant will have a child 25 years later, and only when this child’s child (the author’s great, great, great-grandchild) is born another 25 years later copyright protection expires.
At some point society needs to reclaim the ability to freely enjoy the works of artists and the important contributions they’ve made to its culture.
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The sad reality of it all is that many in the music industry want to use legislation to fix their broken business model rather than put in the time and effort into figuring out how to adapt and compete. If your game plan is to fight technology and the efforts of millions of people with expertise and time to spare you’re doomed to fail.
I neither endorse P2P nor do I download content without paying. Sure, I may have downloaded my fair share back in the days of AudioGalaxy and KaZaA, but with ample free streaming services like Pandora and Last.fm it became unnecessary long ago.
Truth be told, I’m not alone. Last year Arbor Networks, a network-management firm used by more than 70% of the world’s top ISPs, reported that “P2P is declining and it is declining quickly.” Since its 2007 peak of 40% it’s dropped to a mere 18%. A month later the SG oddly claimed it was responsible for 70%. Who are you more likely to believe?
It’s a trend that was espoused last July when a study found that UK youth prefer streaming to P2P.
Free streaming can hardly be less worrisome to the music industry than P2P, but yet it appears that P2P is seemingly taking all the blame, and being cited as the reason that the govt needs to act to somehow ensure its survival.
Last year Will Page, the Chief Economist for PRS for Music, a UK-based royalty collecting group for music writers, composers, and publishers, even published a study that concluded total music industry revenues are up 4.7% since 2007.
No matter what Carnes and others say, musicians will always be around. P2P is hardly to blame for the intransigence of record labels.
Stay tuned.







This is a great article, it’s just that it is about 12 years too late.
Or — wait — the mainstream record labels are still pushing crap and fighting the technology? Unbelievable!
I never really had to “boycott” the riaa’s products because they all suck anyway. There is no honesty or emotion in it. It’s simply product to be sold like a tshirt or a poster. I also never really bought in to supposed musical geniuses like U2 or rock and roll “gods” like KISS. No offense meant to their fans.
I still remember when I started to try and pull myself away from RIAA content (this was years ago, way back in the day when mainstream still had something worth listening to on occasion) Going from mainstream to indie content felt detoxifying to me – I kid you not, I can’t think of a better word to describe that feeling.
Ever since then, every time I hear mainstream RIAA stuff, I feel dirty just listening to a few seconds of it most of the time. I hate to use a consumption analogy to music, but RIAA music is like eating that big greasy full of trans-fats and other garbage hamburger. You can get use to it if you don’t take in anything outside of that burger, but if you switch to something healthier (ala non RIAA), you really notice what effect that burger had on you the whole time.
The hardest part for a number of people is finding a source of non-RIAA content. But once people do discover that source, they, like the above comment is getting at, start to wonder how RIAA music even stays popular. This seems to happen quite a lot.
I have been conducting a full blown boycott of everything RIAA for years now. If people won’t even download RIAA cr*p for free like what I’m doing, then piracy is only a dream problem to have.
^ Was that supposed to be an abruptly ended quote and response, or just plain plagiarism?
Heh, I’ve seen my comments “stolen” and spread throughout the web for years now – even re-worded and inserted in news articles elsewhere.
I just consider it flattery really – knowing that my typing skills is worth stealing so much these days and all.
Boy did that previous paragraph make me feel like an egotistical brat.
“Fact” my ass. He was still signed when he was told, that the record company charged more for his stuff because his “fans would pay it”.
Trent Reznor was dropped by his label. That’s why he is angry.
It’s a fact.
No, the fact is that he dropped his record label. His album “Ghosts” then went on to become the top selling album on Amazon.com in 2008.
http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2007/10/trent-reznor-es/
“Hello everyone. I’ve waited a LONG time to be able to make the following announcement: as of right now Nine Inch Nails is a totally free agent, free of any recording contract with any label. “
Well spoken! Hear hear!
Well, if a cherry picked case of where artists and creators manage to make a solid living out of giving it away, what about Radiohead, Snoop Dogg, then? What about the thousands of bloggers who write their blogs for free but manage to rake in enough money doing so that IRS starts breathing down their necks?
It’s a free market where you can peddle water with bubbles in it at several bucks a bottle. If an artist cannot make money out of a trademark (= his/her name) then that artist should choose to work another type of job. Cater to your fans, or burn them at the stake. Then take the consequences of the action you chose.
‘If your game plan is to fight technology and the efforts of millions of people with expertise and time to spare you’re doomed to fail.’
That line says it all. Any adult who continues to whine about the technological revolution that is making more and more available without a price tag, is effectively wishing that he was born in an earlier, more primitive, century.
The problem is not that music, movies, games, etc.. are now available for free. The problem is that other things are not – and the challenge is how to make them free…
The industry should fear people like me more anyway. I have been conducting a full blown boycott of everything RIAA for years now. If people won’t even download RIAA cr*p for free like what I’m doing, then piracy is only a dream problem to have.
Of course, I probably have made this point all too often already.
sometimes it takes yelling at the world for them to listen. sometimes nothing works.
All of Trent’s projects sell well. The whole reason he bucked the major labels in the first place was because they were over pricing his fans.
Techdirt’s Michael Masnick’s presentation on the Trent Reznor Case Study was way off base. Everything Reznor did was already done before by other artists. Masnick just cherry picked Reznor and it’s doubtful that Reznor has a fanbase to bring in any substantial money. His last tour sold poorly.
Techdirt’s Michael Masnick’s presentation on the Trent Reznor Case Study was way off base.
Off base? By making a case for how artists can succeed in the digital age? You can’t force people to buy your music – it’s a voluntary transaction.
Everything Reznor did was already done before by other artists.
But, the point is that he kept experimenting. He made a point to always try and connect with fans and new and exciting ways to get them motivated to buy like uploading Ghosts Vol I to The Pirate Bay.
Masnick just cherry picked Reznor and it’s doubtful that Reznor has a fanbase to bring in any substantial money. His last tour sold poorly.
Last tour sold poorly properly because of the economic downturn and he has a HUGE fanbase.
Most tours have done poorly lately THX to the economic downturn. Isn’t a CASE STUDY a form of cherry picking? Picking the best example of how to do something?