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	<title>Comments on: Computer Security Expert Testifies that the RIAA Can&#8217;t Identify Users by IP Address</title>
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		<title>By: Leishtek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leishtek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is both your MAC address+IP address that identifies you on a computer network or online. Spoffing both, well that&#039;s mighty difficult. However, if someone were to perform a M.I.T.M. attack &amp; surf over your connection to dL files, that is plausible. Heck, i&#039;ve done it before!! dL all the stuff you want, and never be discovered. I like THAT a lot better than anyone knowing i&#039;m ripping off their bandwith. hahah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is both your MAC address+IP address that identifies you on a computer network or online. Spoffing both, well that&#8217;s mighty difficult. However, if someone were to perform a M.I.T.M. attack &amp; surf over your connection to dL files, that is plausible. Heck, i&#8217;ve done it before!! dL all the stuff you want, and never be discovered. I like THAT a lot better than anyone knowing i&#8217;m ripping off their bandwith. hahah!</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer The Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8955/computer_security_expert_testifies_that_the_riaa_cant_identify_users_by_ip_address/#comment-182667</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer The Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The security expert should know because those are the guys who are always pushing business to put in firewalls and proxies. At home what is one of the biggest things that ISPs tell users to do for security? That&#039;s right use a firewall.

You can see what Jayson is talking about for yourself. Go to Panera Bread with a friend and your laptops and log on to their net. Go to www.ipchicken.com on both computers and likely you will see that both of you are using the same IP address. It&#039;s cool I&#039;ve tried it before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The security expert should know because those are the guys who are always pushing business to put in firewalls and proxies. At home what is one of the biggest things that ISPs tell users to do for security? That&#8217;s right use a firewall.</p>
<p>You can see what Jayson is talking about for yourself. Go to Panera Bread with a friend and your laptops and log on to their net. Go to <a href="http://www.ipchicken.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipchicken.com</a> on both computers and likely you will see that both of you are using the same IP address. It&#8217;s cool I&#8217;ve tried it before!</p>
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		<title>By: mountain_rage</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8955/computer_security_expert_testifies_that_the_riaa_cant_identify_users_by_ip_address/#comment-182668</link>
		<dc:creator>mountain_rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not rocket science the route is the device that gains the main IP address and is now controlling the information traveling through that building. Your computer now resides behind an IP address assigned to you by the router. But the riaa will only see your routers IP address as that is the IP address that is sent across the web. Very interesting defense and should work well for big networks such as those found on campuses. It will however do little for a home network as it is obviously someone in the home who has done the file sharing and it comprises usually one of a couple computers. However if you have a wireless network this starts to make things interesting again as anyone driving by could potential piggy back on your network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not rocket science the route is the device that gains the main IP address and is now controlling the information traveling through that building. Your computer now resides behind an IP address assigned to you by the router. But the riaa will only see your routers IP address as that is the IP address that is sent across the web. Very interesting defense and should work well for big networks such as those found on campuses. It will however do little for a home network as it is obviously someone in the home who has done the file sharing and it comprises usually one of a couple computers. However if you have a wireless network this starts to make things interesting again as anyone driving by could potential piggy back on your network.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah a lot of this is common knowledge and the RIAA knows that I&#039;m sure they just don&#039;t want people to use it against them like Jayson did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah a lot of this is common knowledge and the RIAA knows that I&#8217;m sure they just don&#8217;t want people to use it against them like Jayson did.</p>
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		<title>By: Signa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i ever get sued thats so totally my defence.  if they cant prove im guilty then they dont have a case.  im sure some jack-ass lawyer would disagree but in a *rational* court of law it would be enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i ever get sued thats so totally my defence.  if they cant prove im guilty then they dont have a case.  im sure some jack-ass lawyer would disagree but in a *rational* court of law it would be enough.</p>
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		<title>By: kdemetter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdemetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what i&#039;ve been doing for a long time . My ISP only allows me to have 1 ip adress  so i use a router .

Basically  every computer has a unique ip on that network ( internal ip )  but this gets translated into 1 external ip trough the router .

Off course  this won&#039;t protect you fom liability at home  since they will simply go after the owner of the ip .
But on a large network  like a school network  that might work . 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what i&#8217;ve been doing for a long time . My ISP only allows me to have 1 ip adress  so i use a router .</p>
<p>Basically  every computer has a unique ip on that network ( internal ip )  but this gets translated into 1 external ip trough the router .</p>
<p>Off course  this won&#8217;t protect you fom liability at home  since they will simply go after the owner of the ip .<br />
But on a large network  like a school network  that might work .</p>
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		<title>By: deleted</title>
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		<dc:creator>deleted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fantastic site and brilliant effort. A great piece of work. 264890029</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fantastic site and brilliant effort. A great piece of work. 264890029</p>
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		<title>By: NFSU2FREAK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NFSU2FREAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about static ip addresses then how do you track people if their ip address changes all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about static ip addresses then how do you track people if their ip address changes all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: deleted</title>
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		<dc:creator>deleted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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