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The Limewire Loss, Where to From Here? (Alternatives to Limewire)

The Limewire Loss, Where to From Here? (Alternatives to Limewire)

With the loss of Limewire in court earlier this month, many are reflecting what was Limewire and the developer behind it. The next question is, where do we go from here should Limewire fall under the waves of time?

Limewire was an “old school” app for a lot of people. It’s rise to popularity can be traced clear back when Kazaa started to fail as a premier app for file-sharing. When Kazaa more or less fell to the way side, many users turned to several other apps. It may be one of the bigger moments that the file-sharing community was split in several directions. Users went to either Limewire or other Gnutella applications, eMule or eDonkey2000 on the eDonkey2000 network, WinMX, Shareaza which is connectible to the Gnutella2 network or the earliest of stages of BitTorrent via the mainline BitTorrent client if users were lucky enough to hear about it at the time.

If you believe some sources, the recent loss in courts spells the end of an application that many chose as their main app for file-sharing for years. It’s hard not to see this as the end with the developer facing a multi-million dollar fine at this point. According to an article on CNET, Mark Gorton was working on getting a deal with record labels to turn Limewire in to a legitimate service. Unfortunately, the RIAA views him as the next Bernie Madoff ripping people off. How one views Gorton may depend on how much of each side of the debate you believe.

One can’t help but remember how Napster could have been an amazing business model if a deal were simply worked out – how similar is that to Limewire’s case today? Rather than finding ways to work with technology, the copyright industry is merely stamping out any signs of change to offshore sources where it is significantly harder to get at. How many people are willing to believe that once the RIAA has killed off all the file-sharing, that it’ll then magically make an overwhelmingly attractive business model online given the experience of DRM and the majors ability to covertly slit the throats of the competition thanks to an overwhelming monopoly rather than the ability to produce a decent product?

Given past experience with file-sharers, it’s very easy to see how this huge loss for Limewire will ultimately mean very little to file-sharers in terms of being able to share files. It’s then easy to see that the only thing this lawsuit solves is quite possibly ruining a few people’s lives – those who were close to the development of Limewire. It’s important to remember that Limewire merely connected to a network. It’s not as though killing the app means killing the community.

The difficulty is in trying to figure out where displaced file-sharers will go after. Some will merely find the latest Limewire client and continue file-sharing anyway. Others could easily just switch to Frostwire so as to keep to the familiar, but still know that development is happening to keep the app prestine.

Some file-sharers might take a bit of a leap and jump on to eMule. Since the eDonkey2000 application is now defunct in terms of development. In fact, one might suggest that a similar situation happened with the war between the two major apps that connected to the ED2K network. One was open source (eMule) and the other was closed source (eDonkey2000), but both connected to the same network. eDonkey2000 (the app) was forced to shut down, but eMule is still around with an active community of developers working on mods of the eMule application. Some suggest that eMule being open source has been the reason it’s stayed alive for so long. Just remember that if you have to connect to the ED2K network (since eMule connects to the Kad network as well which is serverless), then get your servers from a trusted source – though it is a good way to get connected in to Kad.

Then there is WinMX. Yes, after all these years, there is still an active community of WinMXworld. Typically, users can connect to WinMX via the help of WinMXWorld where patches can be retrieved to get the client and network working again.

There is also Shareaza. It’s a client that can connect to multiple networks at once. While not really recommended for connecting to ED2K servers, there’s still both the Gnutella and Gnutella2 networks which is active with users. Since there was a domain issue, potential Shareaza users are better off going to the Sourceforge page instead to get their client. With a strong hashing system, it’s really hard to pollute files as seen on the FastTrack (Kazaa) network.

If BitTorrent users are screaming “BitTorrent! BitTorrent! Will someone please think of the BitTorrent! As an alternative of course!” at this point, yes, BitTorrent is theoretically an alternative, though not as compatible of an alternative to the other P2P apps simply because of the structure of the networks. Many users either use Vuze or uTorrent. The question is, what sites to use? If some like to work on getting access to their files, then there’s always a plethora of private sites. Unfortunately, public sites have been increasingly hard to get. There’s ThePirateBay where, after multiple attempts to shut the site down, the site continues to live. There is also the ISOHunt search engine that recently seems to be legally forced to block US residents these days *cough*proxie*cough*.

Let’s not forget the fight club of file-sharing, UseNet. Oops, I talked about UseNet.

What about IRC file-sharing clients?

It’s unclear where Limewire users will go if they do choose to go elsewhere. Still, after going through so many alternatives, once can’t help but be reminded at just how unwinnable the war on file-sharing really is.

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Drew Wilson
Drew Wilson is perhaps one of the more well-known file-sharing and technology news writers around. A journalist in the field since 2005, his work has had semi-regular appearances on social news websites and even occasional appearances on major news outlets as well. Drew founded freezenet.ca and still contributes to ZeroPaid. Twitter | Google Plus
john
john

use urls

john
john

limewire frostwire and bear share wont work at this stage learn how to use links.

Cyanidefun
Cyanidefun

Learn to torrent? Pfft. torrents are for people who are used to waiting forever for files, because just like P2P it depends on the speed of the others users you are taking the files from. The real way to download is DDL, direct downloads. It is based solely on the speed of your own internet connection and computer, and there are hundreds of thousands of websites, blogs, etc, out there listing download links for full albums or individual songs. torrents are so 2006.

limewireUSER
limewireUSER

im still useing limewire... been usein it for two years.. never had any probs.. never stoped workin for me.. i didnt take any updates either.. never missed a day of use.. very happy with limewire

confused
confused

I downloaded bear share and now they are saying that my trial is up and that i have to pay a dollar but im confused as to if it is a dolloar for a month or a dollar per song? Also, what are some (rather) safe musi downdloading sites?

PaceyPimps
PaceyPimps

as far as OS X or Linux just download version 5.5.10 in windows download Limewire Pirate edition based on 5.6.2 i also heard version 5.2.x works but i have not tested Pls don't bother with imitation software as i sucks i tried one by one

Clint
Clint

Whats next?......Is the government going to come to my house and see what copright infringment Ive committed?.......They very well might.......We all know that getting music from Limewire is in a shady area....might not be morally right............What happened to the good old days when musicians and artists made their money from PERFORMING..not living off the proceeds of obscene record sales?........To tell you the truth I feel ripped off when I think of all the money I spent on music over the years.........And actually I still pay for music...everytime I get my internet bill.

Not Changing ... yet
Not Changing ... yet

If I had to change Id go for Frost-wire (http://www.frostwire.com) As Aaron said - gnutella was invented for these type of threats and closures. So find an app that connects to the gnutella network (keep using limewire) and away you go. Yes - Im a n00b but it works for me. ..|.,

zany walker
zany walker

Ive farted a beauty , anyone want to share that on yer p2p network.

SuperSam
SuperSam

Nice Articles guys, I see no offense in p2p sharing if we go back in the history when money or perhaps currency didn't exist people often exchanged goods based on their skills and inheritance this system was called BARTER SYSTEM it was like you have extra pair of shoes i have extra pair of clothes so lets just exchange it so practical and convenient in other words you have jimmy hendricks I have Bon Jovi so lets exchange it. Got dam these fuckin capitalists seems this world in not enough for them they already make huge money but still they want MORE & MORE , Greedy Arse Holes LOL

Anon E. Mus
Anon E. Mus

To SuperSam ...it was like you have extra pair of shoes i have extra pair of clothes so lets just exchange it so practical and convenient in other words you have jimmy hendricks I have Bon Jovi so lets exchange it... What you really mean is- I'm in possession of some stolen clothes, and you have a pair of stolen shoes, so lets swap stolen goods. Ass-hat

brendon
brendon

when you google shit chances are the file you are intending to download might be something else, especially if you dont know if any others have downloaded it with any good results. at least with p2p you can tell if something is legit by looking at the numbers of seeders and lechers and comments. i think frostwire is still untouched that is the p2p i use same with vuze and utorrent.

fu Riaa
fu Riaa

fucken putos THe riaa isnt gonna give shit to the artist the limewire "stold" from there gonna keep it all there just pissed cuz there losing money

omnimoeish
omnimoeish

Good article. I'm pretty sure everyone will switch to Frostwire. I just feel really bad for Gorton. He isn't even the one that created the network, he made a client to connect to it and now he's basically being held fully responsible for other people illegal activities on a network he didn't even create.

zerohour17
zerohour17

for me, Limewire is still the best file sharing software ever developed , frostwire sucked at downloading songs, not like limewire, it downloads the songs immediately if it gets a good connection.

Aaron Walkhouse
Aaron Walkhouse

I doubt that there was some kind of self-destruct built into LimeWire 5. Even if there was, LimeWire is open source so there's no way it could stay hidden or that somebody couldn't fix it. LimeWire users probably wouldn't even notice if the company suddenly vanished, and even that is unlikely. There are simply too many millions of them online, so the loss of a handful of computers operated by only one company that built only one of the many different gnutella programs in use today will have little effect on the massive, decentralized gnutella network. There are still hundreds of thousands of BearShare nodes out there five years after Free Peers left so don't worry about the loss of a handful out of about fifty million independent gnutella nodes, of which at least two million are online at even the slowest hours. Remember, it was precisely because of the possibility of such attacks that gnutella was invented in the first place. Shutting LimeWire the company down cannot shut down the network because they never owned and operated it in the first place, despite what deceptive press releases by RIAA publicists during their lawsuit would try to insinuate.

Drew Wilson
Drew Wilson

Indeed. That is another way of looking at it all. No matter which way you slice it, shutting down the company responsible for Limewire will have no effect on p2p. If the RIAA hoped to get anything out of this in terms of putting a dent in to p2p, they will be sorely dissappointed. All it takes is one programmer with an idea and it's game over for the RIAA. Sure, they could shut down a few homepages for various p2p programs in the US, but the programmers will pop up off shores. If they go to G12 countries and shut them down, so what? What would happen if someone from Thailand, Saudi Arabia, China, Iraq, Afganistan, Israel, etc. had someone develop a p2p program? I would love to see the RIAA try and shutter a developers website when the developer and home page is located in North Korea for instance.

Aaron Walkhouse
Aaron Walkhouse

More to the point: Few, if any, will even consider switching from LimeWire even if the company disappeared. I still see a lot of BearShare users out there. It could have been years before they noticed that Free Peers closed and they still don't care because the software still works. Most of LimeWire users won't even know about it if LimeWire LLC were to shut down.

kevogod
kevogod

Considering most useful UHCs are run by LimeWire, it may pose a problem if those are shut down. Although I suspect LimeWire resorts to using GWebCaches if starved for hosts.

luke
luke

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