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ISOHunt to start filtering content

TorrentSpy decides to not block US visitors and chooses to filter pirated content from its search results instead, something which ISOHunt plans to do as well.

It’s a sad day for those in the US who use TorrentSpy or ISOHunt, two of the world’s largest public trackers sites, to find movies, music, and more to download for it seems the party’s nearing an end.

TorrentSpy and ISOHunt plan to use a hash-based system called FileRights to automatically filter BitTorrent trackers that link to pirated content from its search results to help satisfy a suit brought against them by the MPAA for the illegal facilitation of copyrighted material.

FileRights will use file hashes provided by individual copyright owners of their content that will detect and remove any torrent trackers that link to unauthorized copies. Copyright owners sign up for an account with the system and then enter the hash values of their content into the system database. FileRights will then automatically remove any links to this content.

The site says it works as follows:

FileRights.com maintains a large database of copyrighted works managed by the content holders themselves. This database forms a master list of copyrighted materials that should be removed from BitTorrent sites. When a content holder uploads information about the works they have found on a bittorrent site FileRights then distributes this information to our website subscribers so that work can be removed (filtered) from their search results. The entire process is automated to minimize the effort required by both the content holder and website operator.

“With FileRights we used the community networking power of the Web to automate and aggregate the entire copyright filtration process,” said Justin Bunnel, one of TorrentSpy’s founders and CEO of FileRights. “Torrentspy now uses the FileRights cooperative filtering process to filter search results on its popular search engine.”

“No longer will site by site DMCA affidavits be required for copyright owners to remove links to allegedly infringing files. With FileRights we used the community networking power of the web to automate and aggregate the entire copyright filtration process,” he continued.

Ira Rothkin, TorrentSpy’s attorney, also notes that ISOHunt, the subject of an MPAA lawsuit as well, will so too be using FileRights to filter copyrighted material from its search results.

Jacqueline Chooljian, a federal judge for the Central District of California in Los Angeles ruled on May 29th that TorrentSpy must begin tracking users’ activity on the site, a ruling which TorrentSpy is still appealing but, which will most likely stand due to the fact that the US Govt has gone to great lengths to ensure copyright protection despite the costs to the privacy of consumers and to the neutrality of the internet as a whole.

If TorrentSpy and ISOHunt do start filtering pirated content as stated, it will most likely simply mean more traffic for those file-sharing Swedes at The Pirate Bay and to increased usage of Newsgroups and private BitTorrent tracker sites instead. As is always the case with a crackdown on a specific file-sharing program or site, it merely means that users turn to alternative sites and programs but, never do they usually throw in the towel and go legit.

So far I haven’t notice any filtering of either site’s search results but, it’s hard to believe they would do this instead of merely blocking access to US visitors and stand up for the principles of user privacy and net neutrality. By eliminating copyrighted video content as requested by the MPAA they will only lose traffic to competing sites like the Pirate Bay and others and merely be reduced to glorified porn and PC game hubs.

**UPDATE:
ISOHunt has posted a response in regards to filtering copyrighted content
First of all, we do filtering on links that’s been identified for various reasons. It maybe virus infected files in torrents, it maybe copyright owners requesting takedown of links to their material. For copyright takedowns, we’ve long had a copyright policy and procedure for it. This is not censorship on content, this is filtering for identified abuse. Although DMCA has often been used as a way to censor, that’s a problem with the DMCA and the “request and takedown” regime itself, and the way some websites blindly accept takedown requests.

While I claim to be no saint, we do random sampling on requested links and verify against the identity of the owner requesting their takedown. We have on occasions rejected requests due to situations like music companies requesting takedown of torrents that looks like porn. That also goes into problems of how do you know whether torrents are what they claim to be by their filenames, but that’s another issue.

On the recent news of our partnership with FileRights.com, some clarification on a lot of misinformed reporting and comments. We haven’t started using their database yet, the system is still being developed. The idea is to take some pain away from the current “email takedown request, verify links, respond” process to “establish identity as copyright holder or its agent once, use API’s to automate the requests, and we random sample the legitimacy of the requests”. Nothing more or less is done to our copyright policy for filtering based on identified, unauthorized links to copyrighted works. It’s not DRM and it’s not censorship. It’s to automate the process so it’s easier for content owners (request once instead of 100 different BitTorrent trackers and sites), and easier for us (verify and process once for multiple sites, and no need for legalese in emails).

If you don’t like it, take it up with your congressmen about the DMCA if you are in the US. Or, seed torrents of stuff that you produced, and no problems for any of us. Wink Bram Cohen did say something about BitTorrent not designed for piracy, and I think he’s right.

>> This reply by ISOHunt brings up some interesting questions and responses, not the least of which is the statement about “BitTorrent not being designed for piracy”(Say what?).

In a response to this posting on ISOHunt a Canadian has the gumption to note how insane the whole affair is, that as a CANADIAN visiting a CANADIAN SITE why is it that it is allowing an AMERICAN LOBBYING GROUP to tell it what to do?

Perhaps the real blame lies in us, the American people, for consistently allowing by default our corporations and our country to tell others what’s best for them and how to run their show. Net neutrality may just be a pipe dream after all if we’re allowed to scare the whole world into complying with our own self-interests.

Also, it seems I’m not alone in my disdain over this turn of events with Brokep over the Pirate Bay making clear his hatred for this new FileRights scheme writing that “F—k filerights,” and I too “Thank god that technology is smarter than some of it’s users.”
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Jared Moya
I've been interested in P2P since the early, high-flying days of Napster and KaZaA. I believe that analog copyright laws are ill-suited to the digital age, and that art and culture shouldn't be subject to the whims of international entertainment industry conglomerates. Twitter | Google Plus
Gamer8585
Gamer8585

Damn...these are the two sites I use the most!!!!! I guess I'll have to find a new one I just hope that TBP (or whatever takes their place) will have the same amount of content.

soulxtc
soulxtc

Theres also Demonoid. It usually has open registration every Friday.

Xanthus
Xanthus

This article is completely incorrect. Do you realise that both torrentspy and isohunt have been filtering content since day one? Did you also know that both sites have offered automated modules for removing content since day one? Please stop making assumptions.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Xanthus Uh yah thats why you've been able to grab free movies and music albums from the sites since DAY ONE. :( Copyrighted content ISNT BEING FILTERED PROPERLY thats why they ISOHUnt and several other sites were sued last year for aiding and abetting copyright infringement. With this NEW FileRights system copyrighted content WILL NOW BE FILTERED in order to limit damages in the suit brought by the MPAA and help to appease the court. http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8838/TorrentSpy+may+cut+off+access+to+US+visitors The fact that one can still get copyrighted material from these 2 sites is the whole basis for the lawsuit and implementation of this system is what they are hoping will help them in their case when it comes judgment time. http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9734127-7.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070625-torrentspy-starts-filtering-copyrighted-content.html

Xanthus
Xanthus

Copyright content being filterered on Torrentspy/Isohunt stays off the site. The MPAA has never sent any dmca requests to Torrentspy (don't know about ISOHunt). Not sending any notices claiming their work is being infringed and simply sueing first is not going to help their case in court. Do you realise torrentspy works with dozens of major copyright holders such as Microsoft and the RIAA? It's funny how the MPAA somehow thinks they are above the rest.

soulxtc
soulxtc

No copyrighted content = no need for either of them hence R.I.P.

Valect
Valect

For those that did not read IH's response to this or just did not understand it allow me to clarify: This system will only automate what the admins at isohunt.com have been doing since day 1. Receive takedown notice > verify validity of notice > if valid filter content This system will NOT filter just uploaded content. This should not change any content availability on isohunt.com. And to soulxtc Bram Cohen has been quoted as saying bittorrent was not intended for piracy though I was unable to find the source (If you require it I will look harder).

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Valect I know that Bram Cohen has said as much it's just strange to hear from a BitTorrent site operator make sort of a statement that kind of swears off piracy when all along piracy has been what the sites all about. I mean there's the additional statement of only seeding stuff that "we produce." What gives? And how you can claim it will not change the process when the process will now become AUTOMATED meaning that copyright claims wouldnt be vetted but rather entered manually by people who allege to have the right to do so? BTW http://tinyurl.com/26tmmp

meyou123
meyou123

I still do not think this will stop people from putting up files. They have been trying to stop piracy since it began and have been about as successful as the US in the war in Iraq. These sites may not be around forever but something always will.

Valect
Valect

@soulxtc As IH stated (today) the details are still being worked out but I am assuming the process of validation will be a priority for IH if not filerights.

eminn3m
eminn3m

why does no one care about piratebay? they're the most in your face about it out of all the trackers

soulxtc
soulxtc

@eminn3m Because in Sweden its not illegal...yet :(

Gamer8585
Gamer8585

Damn...these are the two sites I use the most!!!!! I guess I'll have to find a new one I just hope that TBP (or whatever takes their place) will have the same amount of content.

soulxtc
soulxtc

Theres also Demonoid. It usually has open registration every Friday.

Xanthus
Xanthus

This article is completely incorrect. Do you realise that both torrentspy and isohunt have been filtering content since day one? Did you also know that both sites have offered automated modules for removing content since day one? Please stop making assumptions.

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Xanthus Uh yah thats why you've been able to grab free movies and music albums from the sites since DAY ONE. :( Copyrighted content ISNT BEING FILTERED PROPERLY thats why they ISOHUnt and several other sites were sued last year for aiding and abetting copyright infringement. With this NEW FileRights system copyrighted content WILL NOW BE FILTERED in order to limit damages in the suit brought by the MPAA and help to appease the court. http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8838/TorrentSpy+may+cut+off+access+to+US+visitors The fact that one can still get copyrighted material from these 2 sites is the whole basis for the lawsuit and implementation of this system is what they are hoping will help them in their case when it comes judgment time. http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9734127-7.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070625-torrentspy-starts-filtering-copyrighted-content.html

Xanthus
Xanthus

Copyright content being filterered on Torrentspy/Isohunt stays off the site. The MPAA has never sent any dmca requests to Torrentspy (don't know about ISOHunt). Not sending any notices claiming their work is being infringed and simply sueing first is not going to help their case in court. Do you realise torrentspy works with dozens of major copyright holders such as Microsoft and the RIAA? It's funny how the MPAA somehow thinks they are above the rest.

soulxtc
soulxtc

No copyrighted content = no need for either of them hence R.I.P.

Valect
Valect

For those that did not read IH's response to this or just did not understand it allow me to clarify: This system will only automate what the admins at isohunt.com have been doing since day 1. Receive takedown notice > verify validity of notice > if valid filter content This system will NOT filter just uploaded content. This should not change any content availability on isohunt.com. And to soulxtc Bram Cohen has been quoted as saying bittorrent was not intended for piracy though I was unable to find the source (If you require it I will look harder).

soulxtc
soulxtc

@Valect I know that Bram Cohen has said as much it's just strange to hear from a BitTorrent site operator make sort of a statement that kind of swears off piracy when all along piracy has been what the sites all about. I mean there's the additional statement of only seeding stuff that "we produce." What gives? And how you can claim it will not change the process when the process will now become AUTOMATED meaning that copyright claims wouldnt be vetted but rather entered manually by people who allege to have the right to do so? BTW http://tinyurl.com/26tmmp

meyou123
meyou123

I still do not think this will stop people from putting up files. They have been trying to stop piracy since it began and have been about as successful as the US in the war in Iraq. These sites may not be around forever but something always will.

Valect
Valect

@soulxtc As IH stated (today) the details are still being worked out but I am assuming the process of validation will be a priority for IH if not filerights.

eminn3m
eminn3m

why does no one care about piratebay? they're the most in your face about it out of all the trackers

soulxtc
soulxtc

@eminn3m Because in Sweden its not illegal...yet :(

danny
danny

I recommend you this website for all those left alone by Isohunt, it's one of torrent sites I regularly use: http://www.hotne.ws Simple and no ads, very fast and many verified torrents!

brian jensen
brian jensen

i don't get how hash values would help keep people from getting pirated stuff. is not a hash value the "sum" of all the data in a file or files? and if so would i just have to add a file or change the program some to change the hash value? for example adding a no cd crack to a game, i mean most of the stuff now out there are zips, isos, and mp3s and not the native file format that would be what the hash value would be for.

teresa tatler
teresa tatler

due to me being disabled and can not go to the cinimas i download music and movies for my own personal use if the case is downloading music and movies for myself has to stop then i will not be able to even see or hear any new music or movis so i do feel bitter against copy right in this depretion where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer money is greed teresa tatler

Bluexmest
Bluexmest

It sucks because torrent is easy to use but I am certain it will not stop file sharing, there isn’t any real punishment for it , since Napster the owners always get in legal trouble then settle for millions of dollars, now Piratebay is doing the same settlement. Why would anyone stop designing P2P programs if it’s only going to make them millionaires in the long run? I would make one if I knew how to program if its just a matter of going to court refusing to shut it down then wait for the 7 million dollar buy out. I’m sure others will see my point of view and take the risk to develop more file sharing programs.



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