Wants to offer $4 dollar album downloads at a bitrate of your choice, and blames the record industry for its own problems by having ripped off customers for so many years.
NIN seems to be leading the way for how the music industry of the future should be, taking on high priced CD albums and mindless record label execs bent on getting every nickel and dime it can get no matter what the cost to its music artists and image.
Last week I wrote about one of NIN’s blog postings in which Trent Reznor, the band’s outspoken frontman, railed against overpriced CDs and lamented that “No wonder people steal music.” Apparently while on a sojourn in Australia he browsed the racks of a brick and mortar CD store (guess at least one country still has them) and was angered by the fact that his new “Year Zero” album was retailing for $29 USD. Yes $29 USD!! As an artist I’d be angry too.
Well, a few days later it seems he was interviewed by Australia’s Herald Sun newspaper and they asked him about file-sharing and his thoughts on the state of physical CD prices.
The most interesting response he gave was to the question of illegally downloading music, to which he answered “…I steal music too, I’m not gonna say I don’t.” Is Trent hardcore or what?
He goes on to say that sure he resents people getting his stuff for free but, unlike most other artists it seems he knows who’s actually to blame for the whole file-sharing mess — record labels. He says that “… you got record labels that are doing everything they can to piss people off and rip them off.” That’s right, Mr. Reznor has been blessed with a clarity of thought and mind that’s been sadly lacking from the music industry for some time now.
I mean, what was the music industry thinking way back in 1999 with Napster, that the digital music and portable music players would just somehow disappear? That there would be some mass Third Reich iPod-burnings or something? Digital music IS the future and to watch them be constantly slapped like a hysterical child every year grows not only tiresome but, downright shameful.
For an industry that prides itself on enough numbers, sales, figures, trends, and statistical reports to have turned music sales into a downright science, how is that they keep failing to see that people no longer want to buy CDs, and especially at $30 bucks a pop!
Reznor also describes his CD shopping experience in more detail than he did in his blog. He writes:
I walk into HMV, the week the record’s out, and I see it on the rack with a bunch of other releases. And every release I see: $21.99, $22.99, $24.99. And ours doesn’t have a sticker on it. I look close and ‘Oh, it’s $34.99′. So I walk over to see our live DVD Beside You in Time, and I see that it’s also priced six, seven, eight dollars more than every other disc on there. And I can’t figure out why that would be.
Reznor, never one to refrain from speaking his mind, ends up confronting one of the record label “sales guys” at a meet and greet during his stay in Brisbane. He asks them why his CDs and DVDs cost 6,7, and even 8 more dollars then everybody elses.
The sales guy says it’s “Because your packaging is a lot more expensive.” But, apparently Reznor pays for this out of his cut form the CD, so this is a moot argument. “I know how much the packaging costs — it costs me, not them, it costs me 83 cents more to have a CD with the colour-changing ink on it. I’m taking the hit on that, not them.”
The sales guy then basically says that it’s okay to charge more because he has a “…core audience that’s gonna buy whatever we put out, so we can charge more for that.”
That’s when Reznor gets really pissed off and takes the guy to task, saying it’s messed up that they feel they can rip off his audience just because they’re more loyal fans. That’s when the conversation gets really good, and man I wish I was there to hear it.
He noted:
And I just said “That’s the most insulting thing I’ve heard. I’ve garnered a core audience that you feel it’s OK to rip off? F— you’. That’s also why you don’t see any label people here, ‘cos I said ‘F— you people. Stay out of my f—ing show. If you wanna come, pay the ticket like anyone else. F— you guys”. They’re thieves. I don’t blame people for stealing music if this is the kind of s— that they pull off.
You gotta love it.
It gets even better when he observes that “…these guys who have f—ed themselves out of a job essentially, that now take it out on ripping off the public.” You have to feel for the guy because he here is trying to make a living and these idiot record label execs are making a tough situation even worse by making it even more painful for people just wanting to support to band by buying their albums. It’s tragic really.
“I’ve got a battle where I’m trying to put out quality material that matters and I’ve got fans that feel it’s their right to steal it and I’ve got a company that’s so bureaucratic and clumsy and ignorant and behind the times they don’t know what to do, so they rip the people off.”
He said that he use to take it personally when album sales would stink that “Well, not that many people are into it. OK, that kinda sucks. Yeah I could point fingers but the blame would be with me, maybe I’m not relevant.” But, now he sees that that is perhaps no longer the case, that album sales are sinking because people just aren’t buying albums like they used to, instead buying digital singles, and also that they’re simply tired of getting ripped off.
“…on this record, I know people have it and I know it’s on everybody’s iPods, but the climate is such that people don’t buy it because it’s easier to steal it,” he comments.
But, he does have a plan for the future in which after the next album he owes the record label is completed he will turn to releasing the albums on his own. “You could download it from my site at as high a bit-rate as you want, pay $4 through PayPal. Come see the show and buy a T-shirt if you like it. I would put out a nicely packaged merchandise piece, if you want to own a physical thing. And it would come out the day that it’s done in the studio, not this “Let’s wait three months” bulls—.”
Now $4 bucks is a price that I certainly would pay, especially that not only is it cheap and would it go directly to the artist themselves but, it would also provide another alternative to the idiot record label sales guys out there who are bent on ripping off music customers just because they happen to be loyal fans.
Rock on Trent!





I plan on buying his self released album, even if I don’t feel it. I’ve always wondered why this hasn’t gained popularity. Trent is a renaissance man, LOVED how he released some of his singles on garage band for musicians and fans to see the anatomy of his music. Rock on Trent.
Everybody here is slagging of the labels. But we need to remember that they give a lot of small bands the big break they need.
Yes, they do dumb things, but it’s still on the top of the list of a lot of beginning bands to get signed by a label. That way they can meet professionals, idols and just gain some experience. It’s one thing to record an album via your laptop and put it on the internet. But I bet it’ll sell a lot better if it’s recorded in a studio with an experienced mixer at the table.
See them as your parent. When you’re a kid you need them to grow, when you’re a teenager you hate ‘em and want to move out. And as an adult you can either live at home, move out but keep a connection or just break with them.
? A number of artists have produced albums without the help of record labels that have done quite well.
Nice one Trent!
I am one of those loyal fans. i own quite a few albums of NIN’s still after the singles and a couple of albums i havent got. He has respect for his fans and i take my hat off to him!
If this $4 album actually happens, I’m probably going to buy it. This won’t be because I necessarily want the music, it’s quite likely I wouldn’t have illegally downloaded it if the price was higher. I would buy that album to support what he’s doing. The music industry needs a wakeup call, and I will happily pay $4 to make that happen.
Did he actually go through with this? This was posted in 2007 afterall…
Someone should tell the RIAA that we’ve found someone they can sue for illegal downloading, who might actually be able to afford to pay their ridiculous fines.
Great job, Trent! We need more people like you standing up to the labels.
“Let’s rip them off because they’re loyal fans.” Pure nonsense.
People want to support the artists. People steal because it’s either that or pay an arm and a leg for a single CD or DVD. If more artists take the Radiohead and NIN approach to buying music, people would be glad to pay. Cheap prices and a convenient method of having it directly sent to you without even having to leave your house is always a major plus.
AMEN!! I always have and always will support this guy in whatever he does.. I’m a NIN fan from the Pretty Hate Machine days and have enjoyed watching him grow as a person and as a musician… Trent has always been one of the most forward thinking musicians of this era and I’m soo happy for him that his slave contract with the record industry is in it’s dying throes. I’m sure he will continue to be successful and in 5 or 10 years when record companies go the way of the dinosaurs he will be at the top of the pile.. I just wish it would happen sooner rather than later..
its true the musi/film industry is full of it overinflated prices shit music films supported by good Fuck em all I say Warner bringsout 99 percent shit
“I resent people getting my music for free”
I’m sorry i had no idea you had a copyright on sound waves. Fuck off.
In reply to the comment :
“I’m sorry i had no idea you had a copyright on sound waves. Fuck off.”
Yes, in fact, all musical works and sound recordings are eligible for copyright claims. If you’d ever written or recorded music, you would know and respect that.
In a matter of fact I used to write, record and released music, for free, for anyone to download, listen too, rip, copy, sample and so on. Did a lot of work with trackers, sequencers and midi software before all this ‘piracy this, piracy that’ spectacle started. If you google a little bit, you’ll find 1000′s upon 1000 of artists doing the same, releasing stuff just for the joy of it. You can live of music, but I, along with others decided we didn’t wanted to do that. Music is, and always will be a cherished hobby, but nothing more than that.
Copyright is not there to prevent music from being spread, as it is today, but its there to promote creativity and new thinking. These dinosaurs in the recording business is fighting a losing battle and when they’re gone, good riddance. They are parasites on the back of talent and need to be gone, and will be eventually, as fast as possible. They know this and thats why they fight the digital era with tooth and nail. They know they serve no purpose anymore and are deathly afraid their profits will disappear.
Music wants to be free, music needs to be free, music wants to be heard, music need to be spread all over. It’s morally wrong to copyright a sound, its morally wrong to copyright a piece of music and its morally wrong to copyright an idea.
are you trying tosay that no one should be abel to make a living out of music?
say goodbye to thousands of great bands……
Trent’s been doing stuff like this for years. He and Radiohead really were the pioneers. However, smaller acts need people to buy their CD’s for higher prices. Not only have Reznor and others already certainly made back whatever type of investment they put into the music they make, but they have a loyal fanbase. A loyal fanbase of millions willing to pay $4 each adds up to a lot of money. But it just isn’t feesible to offer all albums at such a low price.
So, what am I saying? I certainly don’t think that just because a band or a singer is successful that they should put lower album prices all the time. It makes sense on one end, but is incredibly presumptuous on the other. But I am saying that people should be willing to shell out some extra cash for a band that is not well-known. Too often downloading becomes a habit through which people–myself included–find all of their music. They forget why they began downloading in the first place, which likely was because they did not feel guilty to get a free copy of a CD that was sure to make millions anyway.
The time has come where CDs don’t always make millions, even when put out by truly class acts. Reznor has found a way to offset the system, and he is truly brilliant for it. However, I do truly believe that real music fans will buy a CD of a lesser-known band that isn’t represented by a large label. Music in general is in a revolutionary state, and we are lucky to be living through this. But we have to make sure it continues to survive.
I like his ideas. There is no need for record lables anymore when a band can deal direct with the public electronically. Sure, there’s still going to be some piracy just like there’s still some shoplifting, but $4.00 an album is a good pricepoint and even a little more for more complicated productions and live recordings would be acceptable. What we need more of, though, is music that lasts a little longer than one week that doesn’t espouse beatings, killings and warfare. Anybody writing love songs anymore? I mean romantic stuff, not explicit sex? The listener has an imagination, you know.
For 4$ I would buy all my albums, he is totally right
I love Trent Reznor
i like his idea.
that’s how the music industry is supposed to be imho.
If only we could get 100 more popular bands to think like this then the music industry’s “old regime” would finally collapse.
Now THIS GUY is finally someone that may be able to turn the tide against the labels. If he starts to make $4.00 albums you can BET that it will put pressure on the other labels….especially if his sales go through the roof while other label Cd’s that are selling much higher are not selling well at all.
I don’t listen to NIN but i’m tempted to buy the cd simply because the band’s getting the money and well these are the kind of attitudes that will get me to pay for music more.
@soul
I know its reddiculous they are trying to change laws to protect their business model which relies on making distribution hard and force artist through them. Labels are no longer required and as more and more artist find that out the RIAA will slowly lose steam.
@MR
Seriously I mean its not rocket science to figure out why people download music illegally oftentimes they get penalized for merely being loyal fans and then everyone wonders why album sales stink.
I love this new hardcore artist group that is standing up against the big labels. First it was some big Canadian acts that started to go against drm sueing fans and changing the industry. Now NIN has jumped in I feel like we may finally see change and its the artist that can bring it because they effectively hold all the cards.
you got record labels that are doing everything they can to piss people off and rip them off. i couldnt have said it better
I like where he said “F— you people. Stay out of my f—ing show. If you wanna come pay the ticket like anyone else. F— you guys”.
OH they must’ve been startled for sure.
awesome i love this guy
good guy