It seems that you would prefer to do nothing but wait for a disaster to happen to you rather than anticipate and prepare for it, assuming you are competent enough anticipate things in general.

What will replace the lost time on pointless work and stress? Why should anyone waste their time on BS?

“I think your fears are unfounded becuase most people will just stop after one strike, and go buy what they want instead.”

I get the feeling that you are getting this “most people” out of a biased sample of about three or fewer people. Not only would people actually not stop, but there is certainly no increased chance of having those people buying anything.

Fear is definitely not the correct term. It would be called anticipation, more than anything.

“If they wanted to do that, they’d just do application filtering.”

In another circle you will go….

“And if anything, getting all the copyrighted stuff off mainstream p2p will strengthen the community, and people will know they can look for freely shared stuff where he artists are aware of it and everyone is doing something positve, it removes the negativity snd uncertainty and leaves the idealism intact.”

Another speculation, and a nonsensical one at that.

“As far as the music business is concerned, [...] The fact that the industry is in such dire straits because of file sharing makes it even harder for artists to negotiate better deals, ….”

All you are doing is alleging P2P as the cause of these irrelevant hypothetical cases.

“The thing is, p2p already has a shady rep, …”

Legitimate companies/sites use P2P, so that statement is illogical.

“…the reason being that it was created for music swapping without a system to compensate the creators.”

BS.

“People pretty much know artists aren’t being compensated, and have different ways of thinking about that.”

You neglect the fact that many people actually buy the release.

“Like I said in under another article, you could really spin this as positve and if the sketch factor is gone from p2p you can promote it as something positive.”

You never stated such a thing, so try not to lie and also state something nonsensical simultaneously.

“Although you know I think p2p is not really the best way to go for an artist, client-server is better IMO, everyone can try something different.”

Actually, we all know that you think P2P is the worst way to go for an artist. The only thing you know is to create and host a high-cost web site.

“We all have the same goals here (find a way to make technology work for our music without bending over a log)”

Except that you think technology is the source of all problems.

“… and if files that are traded without the creator’s permission just gets in the way of that.”

In reality, it doesn’t. Get with it.

I keep killing that false statement, but yet you keep trying to revive it.

That assumes that everyone had the intention of buying it in the first place otherwise. More often than not, it’s simply not the case because it relies on the hugely discreditted “one download = one lost sale”. More often then not, it’s actually try before you buy anyway.

If the content wasn’t available for free, people would not have heard of it. If they have not heard of it, they are fare more unlikely to not take a risk and pay for it. You can’t judge the quality of the music based on cover art and a tracklist.

Additionally, the fact that a minister said that they actively INTEND to have 1000 disconnections per day means they will simply have an appeals process just as a formality at best. The judge system is structured so that it’s impossible to really do more than gloss over the facts. So the system is definitely going to be rigged against the accused in at least one way. The politician’s intent is a very good indication that the deck will be stacked against an accused in far more ways than what is on the surface.

Does the evidence they typically collect count as sufficient evidence to convince an alleged file sharer? That is extremely rare. I think that in the Jammie Thomas case, they may have, but that is actually an anomoly rather than the norm. This is one of the biggest reason the current set-up to catch alleged file-sharers has been deemed as unreliable/corrupt.

Additionally, in the UK, the minister who is trying to push similar legislation through activiely said they intend on disconnecting a vast majority of people. Not even as deterrents or anything, just disconnecting people. Everyone else who is observing this realizes the three strikes laws – including the police and secret services – realizes this is a really bad idea.

Besides, to a politician, disconnecting “x thousands of filesharers this month” sounds like they are doing a great job to their bosses at the RIAA/MPAA. It’s not about warning people at this point, so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear stories in the future (if these laws are passed) that “so and so recieves all three strikes in the span of 3 hours and was only notified 24 hours after the fact.”

“After three strikes is passed, my method of distributing my music will be painted as illegitimate and many more will simply be cut off”

If they wanted to do that, they’d just do application filtering. And if anything, getting all the copyrighted stuff off mainstream p2p will strengthen the community, and people will know they can look for freely shared stuff where he artists are aware of it and everyone is doing something positve, it removes the negativity snd uncertainty and leaves the idealism intact.

As far as the music business is concerned, what you described can happen too. The fact that the industry is in such dire straits because of file sharing makes it even harder for artists to negotiate better deals, the deals keep getting worse – indies and majors.

The thing is, p2p already has a shady rep, the reason being that it was created for music swapping without a system to compensate the creators. Gnutella was created to swap people’s music without permission when the Napster thing went down. People pretty much know artists aren’t being compensated, and have different ways of thinking about that. Like I said in under another article, you could really spin this as positve and if the sketch factor is gone from p2p you can promote it as something positive.

Although you know I think p2p is not really the best way to go for an artist, client-server is better IMO, everyone can try something different. We all have the same goals here (find a way to make technology work for our music without bending over a log) and if files that are traded without the creator’s permission just gets in the way of that.

Look, all the people have to do is stop taking media they aren’t paying to use, so they have to get their entertainment from outlets with a price tag, I just don’t see it as an infringement of liberty.

Whereas sharing copyrughted media on p2p, which is very much like publishing is a pretty clear cut infingement of the legal and moral rights of the author under French law.