Comments on: REPORT: Only 5% of Physical CDs Sold More Than 1,000 in 2008

By: D.AN

D.AN — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:27:04 +0000

“… in order to protect the rights of …”

Not even close.

By: malcolm hume

malcolm hume — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:03:47 +0000

Well, considering that the whole ‘model’ was legislated and litigated into exostence in the first place in order to protect the rights of authors, composers and performers, it makes perfect sense.

By: thisguy

thisguy — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:24:50 +0000

its been 5 or six years since I bought a CD.I use the Pandora website.

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Tod der CD, auf Raten « 11k2 — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:45:42 +0000

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By: D.AN

D.AN — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:17:11 +0000

So you’re trying to refute against a possible worst case scenario?

“People who write their own music (REAL aritsts) …”

Don’t forget performing their own music.

“Artists are getting screwed by file sharing just like everyone else.”

“Just like everyone else”…no, not really.

“[] it’s worse, becuase you can sue a company.”

…if the subpoena is warranted.

“These are basic rights being violated here, that’s why the law is on the side of the artist.”

No, the law has little regard to the side of the artist. This was mentioned some time ago, if you have forgotten.

By: D.AN

D.AN — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:08:18 +0000

Actually, that’s the recession you’re thinking about, malgre.

By: D.AN

D.AN — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:03:34 +0000

No, it has always been about the model and the money. Like I stated previously, (moral) rights are completely irrelevant in the matter, as they are not affected in any way. Economic rights are necessarily impossible to take away as well.

By: mountain_rage

mountain_rage — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:21:09 +0000

Don’t know about your business sense, but my understanding of business is if its not generating profit you change your business model. Its rare that the business goes to the law to protect its business model, more often than not they work within the new confines of the market to create a system that does generate revenue.

I already gave my suggestions as to some solutions for the music industry. I’m sure an expert in the field could come up with other business models. I just think the industry is thinks its easier to lobby than fix their model. In the end their attempts will fail since there will always be a back door for file sharing.

By: malcolm hume

malcolm hume — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:40:23 +0000

see above. That’s not true. People who write their own music (REAL aritsts) always make money from record sales, mandated by law. There is also money when the record gets played and when it gets licensed. Artists are getting screwed by file sharing just like everyone else. You can’t take a chunk of someone’s income away and think that no harm is done – that’s doubly disrespectful to the people who made the stuff in the first place. No only that, you’re taking away something fundamental, the rights to copy the work, which is exactly what the companies tried so hard to do and failed, now the audience has the goose that lays the golden egg and the artist is left just as screwed as if it were a giant corporation – it’s worse, becuase you can sue a company. These are basic rights being violated here, that’s why the law is on the side of the artist.

By: malcolm hume

malcolm hume — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:34:21 +0000

No, you make money off publishing. It’s pretty standard boilerplate stuff and the publishing is mandated by law. Even if you never recoup the record companies investment, and that happens a lot, you make money from the publishing, the radio play (also by law) and you get some nickels from any licensing, like for instance modest mouse and the shins had deals early on. All by virtue of being tied into a system that had to be created by people making laws and the FBI going after people who pirated records and played stuff without paying, etc., basically so musicians could be more than homeless minstrels. Otherwise musicians and artists always get dicked over.

The rights of those individuals are protected by the state, not just so we can enjoy the work and they can profit from it, but because it’s their basic right to own and control what they make.

And anyway, you’re wrong – artists have already seen the drop in income. They are making less money and advances are shrinking, and artist who don’t make the gold and platinum every time are getting dropped more quickly from deals, therefore making even less money. Everyone is making less money, which hurts people in a very real sense and hurts their families too. That’s just a fact.