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	<title>Comments on: UK ISP to Throttle BitTorrent, Newsgroups 8-11pm</title>
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		<title>By: jimmy90</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-207259</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t believe that P2P is having much of an effect when compared with audio and video streaming services like the BBC iPlayer.

I would like to see some evidence of the problems O2 are alleging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t believe that P2P is having much of an effect when compared with audio and video streaming services like the BBC iPlayer.</p>
<p>I would like to see some evidence of the problems O2 are alleging.</p>
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		<title>By: emule</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-207024</link>
		<dc:creator>emule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>download to your seedbox then download the file via http. :-) This means not throttle. And another thing is that you can stream bittorrent video so by blocking bittorrent they are blocking streaming video. There has already been some bad pr about an isp blocking bittorrent then later finding out that it was a streaming video of some charity event. I think I read the story on torrent freak. Its been a while so a google search could pull it up prob.

&quot;O2, a leading provider of mobile and broadband services to consumers and businesses in the UK, has announced new peak hour traffic management protocols in order to ensure that all customers are able to access “vital services” like e-mail and streaming video.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>download to your seedbox then download the file via http. <img src='http://www.zeropaid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  This means not throttle. And another thing is that you can stream bittorrent video so by blocking bittorrent they are blocking streaming video. There has already been some bad pr about an isp blocking bittorrent then later finding out that it was a streaming video of some charity event. I think I read the story on torrent freak. Its been a while so a google search could pull it up prob.</p>
<p>&#8220;O2, a leading provider of mobile and broadband services to consumers and businesses in the UK, has announced new peak hour traffic management protocols in order to ensure that all customers are able to access “vital services” like e-mail and streaming video.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206594</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting the ISPs keep battling for control of the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting the ISPs keep battling for control of the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: KevH</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206576</link>
		<dc:creator>KevH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silversurfer, O2 are NOT the first to start doing this. Many ISPs do the same, some throttle only P2P, others throttle more. British Telecom and the Carphone Warehouse companies (AOL UK, Talk Talk and Tiscali) are probably the worst but others who throttle at peak times include Virgin, Sky and many, many others. Sky do have one completely unlimited package but it is NOT cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silversurfer, O2 are NOT the first to start doing this. Many ISPs do the same, some throttle only P2P, others throttle more. British Telecom and the Carphone Warehouse companies (AOL UK, Talk Talk and Tiscali) are probably the worst but others who throttle at peak times include Virgin, Sky and many, many others. Sky do have one completely unlimited package but it is NOT cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: KevH</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206575</link>
		<dc:creator>KevH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not strictly true. In the UK ISPs either put their own equipment in the exchanges (LLU) or they use British Telecoms network to get to their own (IPStream) in exchanges that have not been LLU enabled yet. O2 will only be throttling those customers who&#039;s exchange has not been enabled for O2s LLU network. O2s own LLU network is unaffected (at least at the moment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not strictly true. In the UK ISPs either put their own equipment in the exchanges (LLU) or they use British Telecoms network to get to their own (IPStream) in exchanges that have not been LLU enabled yet. O2 will only be throttling those customers who&#8217;s exchange has not been enabled for O2s LLU network. O2s own LLU network is unaffected (at least at the moment).</p>
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		<title>By: silversurfer</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206564</link>
		<dc:creator>silversurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm  first 1 to start doing this  
only thing mite help is to post on 

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/freefilesharing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm  first 1 to start doing this<br />
only thing mite help is to post on </p>
<p><a href="http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/freefilesharing/" rel="nofollow">http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/freefilesharing/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mountain_rage</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206528</link>
		<dc:creator>mountain_rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully we can get the conservatives out of their minority rule and get a government in place that will pass a net neutrality law in Canada. Then they would not be allowed to throttle encrypted data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully we can get the conservatives out of their minority rule and get a government in place that will pass a net neutrality law in Canada. Then they would not be allowed to throttle encrypted data.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoness</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206523</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch that sucks...</description>
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		<title>By: mRuss</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206514</link>
		<dc:creator>mRuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;privacy tools&quot; catch on there to try to skirt throttling, the ISP will most likely just do what has been done in Canada: throttle -all- encrypted traffic while assuming it&#039;s a P2P application.  We&#039;ve had to deal with this for many years now and it is just not going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;privacy tools&#8221; catch on there to try to skirt throttling, the ISP will most likely just do what has been done in Canada: throttle -all- encrypted traffic while assuming it&#8217;s a P2P application.  We&#8217;ve had to deal with this for many years now and it is just not going away.</p>
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		<title>By: mountain_rage</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87090/uk-isp-to-throttle-bittorrent-newsgroups-8-1pm/#comment-206512</link>
		<dc:creator>mountain_rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they are open about their practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they are open about their practices.</p>
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