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	<title>Comments on: France Passes &#8220;Three-Strikes&#8221; Law for Second Time</title>
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		<title>By: 2009 &#8211; A ZeroPaid Year In Review &#8211; Part 3 of 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>2009 &#8211; A ZeroPaid Year In Review &#8211; Part 3 of 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] issue of Three Strikes law which, after a few bungled attempts, managed to produce the oddly titled &#8220;France Passes Three Strikes Law for Second Time&#8221;. Regardless of the French Pirate Party&#8217;s growing success, it seemed that the inevitable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] issue of Three Strikes law which, after a few bungled attempts, managed to produce the oddly titled &#8220;France Passes Three Strikes Law for Second Time&#8221;. Regardless of the French Pirate Party&#8217;s growing success, it seemed that the inevitable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: French Parliament Adopts Final &#8220;Three-Strikes&#8221; Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>French Parliament Adopts Final &#8220;Three-Strikes&#8221; Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] file-sharers from the Internet after the National Assembly approved it 258-131, a day after the Senate approved it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87012/france-passes-three-strikes-law-for-second-time/#comment-204257</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually think that information is hoarded by file-sharing, malgre?

That is impossible.

This is the definition of hoarding:

&quot;In economics, hoarding is the unfair practice of buying up resources so that they can be sold to customers for profit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually think that information is hoarded by file-sharing, malgre?</p>
<p>That is impossible.</p>
<p>This is the definition of hoarding:</p>
<p>&#8220;In economics, hoarding is the unfair practice of buying up resources so that they can be sold to customers for profit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87012/france-passes-three-strikes-law-for-second-time/#comment-204255</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dude, if you make me miss a car payment or default on a mortgage, or drop my health insurace, or jesus, skip a fucking meal, you are physically harming me.&quot;

If he were actually controlling your movements, it may be, but those circumstances would only transpire due to your own actions as you have full control of them. Only you can possibly put yourself in such a position or state that would transpire events that resultingly harm you.

&quot;Or maybe even, like, a little kid. Physically harming a baby by hurting his parent, the author, in his wallet.&quot;

Unless that parent was being targeted by a rival of sorts, a consumer cannot hurt the author, whether physically or financially. Do not expect sympathy in a business and do not expect laws to be created such that you will be guaranteed to stay in business. This is a very obvious business principle.

&quot;I thought that was obvious.&quot;

How does a poor financial position of the parent obviously lead to the physical harm of a the parent&#039;s child?

&quot;Have you never payed a bill?&quot;

This is so much a begging for sympathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dude, if you make me miss a car payment or default on a mortgage, or drop my health insurace, or jesus, skip a fucking meal, you are physically harming me.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he were actually controlling your movements, it may be, but those circumstances would only transpire due to your own actions as you have full control of them. Only you can possibly put yourself in such a position or state that would transpire events that resultingly harm you.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or maybe even, like, a little kid. Physically harming a baby by hurting his parent, the author, in his wallet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless that parent was being targeted by a rival of sorts, a consumer cannot hurt the author, whether physically or financially. Do not expect sympathy in a business and do not expect laws to be created such that you will be guaranteed to stay in business. This is a very obvious business principle.</p>
<p>&#8220;I thought that was obvious.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does a poor financial position of the parent obviously lead to the physical harm of a the parent&#8217;s child?</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you never payed a bill?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is so much a begging for sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87012/france-passes-three-strikes-law-for-second-time/#comment-204252</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe you should study recent history. Newspapers planned on going digital since the eighties, the idea has been around since the late 60’s when people used teletype machines. That’s just what happened.&quot;

Again, they are extremely slow planners. As well, teletype machines have nothing to do with online-exclusive publications; digitizing text only to be read once it is physically printed does not mean online.

&quot;As far as copyright ‘reform’, Well, maybe, but certainly not what you have in mind, because people don’t get to be in charge and make laws by ignoring reality outside of their own tiny world, whether that’s one issue they care a lot about or one information medium they spend too much time with.&quot;

Non sequitur. You obviously cannot fathom what is called influence of interests on ignorance.

&quot;People often do learn and grow, and start to understand the implications of their beliefs – and then they change them. That’s a good thing.&quot;

No, the best thing to do is learn and grow and then derive the beliefs again on the basis of inference, to delete all implications; only then will those beliefs be considered acceptably plausible.

&quot;[...] But p2p is legally, proactically and morally identical to publishing , and that right is constitutionally protected as well.&quot;

There are several implausable statements in your single assertion:

1. P2P cannot be legally identical to publishing, since the pro-Copyright side demeans it to be illegal in the first place.
2. P2P is not practically identical to publishing, since publishing requires resources to produce the copies in tangible forms.
3. No two different actions can be logically morally identical, as morals are subject to bias and bias is not part of inference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe you should study recent history. Newspapers planned on going digital since the eighties, the idea has been around since the late 60’s when people used teletype machines. That’s just what happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, they are extremely slow planners. As well, teletype machines have nothing to do with online-exclusive publications; digitizing text only to be read once it is physically printed does not mean online.</p>
<p>&#8220;As far as copyright ‘reform’, Well, maybe, but certainly not what you have in mind, because people don’t get to be in charge and make laws by ignoring reality outside of their own tiny world, whether that’s one issue they care a lot about or one information medium they spend too much time with.&#8221;</p>
<p>Non sequitur. You obviously cannot fathom what is called influence of interests on ignorance.</p>
<p>&#8220;People often do learn and grow, and start to understand the implications of their beliefs – and then they change them. That’s a good thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the best thing to do is learn and grow and then derive the beliefs again on the basis of inference, to delete all implications; only then will those beliefs be considered acceptably plausible.</p>
<p>&#8220;[...] But p2p is legally, proactically and morally identical to publishing , and that right is constitutionally protected as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are several implausable statements in your single assertion:</p>
<p>1. P2P cannot be legally identical to publishing, since the pro-Copyright side demeans it to be illegal in the first place.<br />
2. P2P is not practically identical to publishing, since publishing requires resources to produce the copies in tangible forms.<br />
3. No two different actions can be logically morally identical, as morals are subject to bias and bias is not part of inference.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, you are an imbecile for comparing moral rights to human rights.

You are also oblivious to the fact that moral rights are distinct from the economic rights tied to copyrights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, you are an imbecile for comparing moral rights to human rights.</p>
<p>You are also oblivious to the fact that moral rights are distinct from the economic rights tied to copyrights.</p>
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		<title>By: soulxtc</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87012/france-passes-three-strikes-law-for-second-time/#comment-204230</link>
		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>? We&#039;re talking data packet inspection (DPI) .....who&#039;s constitution are u referring to? 

The 4th amendment protects us against DPI.  

Eurotrash may mess up individual liberties, but we wont. 

BTW dorm room? Hardly. Its okay old timer, your selfish so-called Hippie generation is soon to pass. 

What a waste. So much potential.

You just dont get it. 

Are u willing to inspect each and every data packet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? We&#8217;re talking data packet inspection (DPI) &#8230;..who&#8217;s constitution are u referring to? </p>
<p>The 4th amendment protects us against DPI.  </p>
<p>Eurotrash may mess up individual liberties, but we wont. </p>
<p>BTW dorm room? Hardly. Its okay old timer, your selfish so-called Hippie generation is soon to pass. </p>
<p>What a waste. So much potential.</p>
<p>You just dont get it. </p>
<p>Are u willing to inspect each and every data packet?</p>
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		<title>By: soulxtc</title>
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		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again lame. the point is is that he made a successful business model around digital music. rather than doing circles and whining for a decade he went out and competed against the best and teh brightest to deliver content to consumers unlike record labels. 

So narrow minded Hume its rather sad :(

No worry. We&#039;re actually waiting for the &quot;digital natives&quot; to gain political control. Your pre-Internet generation and outdated copyright laws are growing rather nauseating. 

You just dont get it. 

Unless you inspect each and every piece of data transferred on the Internet you cant stop P2P. If youre willing to do that than p2P is the least of our worries. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again lame. the point is is that he made a successful business model around digital music. rather than doing circles and whining for a decade he went out and competed against the best and teh brightest to deliver content to consumers unlike record labels. </p>
<p>So narrow minded Hume its rather sad <img src='http://www.zeropaid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No worry. We&#8217;re actually waiting for the &#8220;digital natives&#8221; to gain political control. Your pre-Internet generation and outdated copyright laws are growing rather nauseating. </p>
<p>You just dont get it. </p>
<p>Unless you inspect each and every piece of data transferred on the Internet you cant stop P2P. If youre willing to do that than p2P is the least of our worries.</p>
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		<title>By: soulxtc</title>
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		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoarded when its free? hardly. the exact opposite is true. Information is hoarded when its only offered for a fee. 

Lame Hume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoarded when its free? hardly. the exact opposite is true. Information is hoarded when its only offered for a fee. </p>
<p>Lame Hume.</p>
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		<title>By: mountain_rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountain_rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they choose to put themselves in that position they are only harming themselves. If someone starts a small business and a competitor opens up next door destroying the other business, is he physically harming the individual? Do you expect the original business to get sympathy and for laws to be passed so he has to stay in business? In my world, the failing business needs to retool and rethink their plan or get out of that life plan. Artist can still make lots of money, but it takes commitment, talent and luck just like any other business. The consequences of taking such a risk is no ones but the creators. 

Some artist are adapting and being successful because of it. Nine Inch Nails, Arctic Monkeys, Scott Andrew, Tay Zonda, RadioHead, etc... Artist can survive in the new market, its just a different market. Your just blind and naive, and for whatever reason have a bias that is pro copyright. Why do you support copyright so much? What is your vested interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they choose to put themselves in that position they are only harming themselves. If someone starts a small business and a competitor opens up next door destroying the other business, is he physically harming the individual? Do you expect the original business to get sympathy and for laws to be passed so he has to stay in business? In my world, the failing business needs to retool and rethink their plan or get out of that life plan. Artist can still make lots of money, but it takes commitment, talent and luck just like any other business. The consequences of taking such a risk is no ones but the creators. </p>
<p>Some artist are adapting and being successful because of it. Nine Inch Nails, Arctic Monkeys, Scott Andrew, Tay Zonda, RadioHead, etc&#8230; Artist can survive in the new market, its just a different market. Your just blind and naive, and for whatever reason have a bias that is pro copyright. Why do you support copyright so much? What is your vested interest?</p>
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