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	<title>Comments on: Are &#8220;Hopeless&#8221; Copyright Wars Against P2P &#8220;Our New Prohibition?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Copyright oorlogen verzieken de boel &#124; Computertaal</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86657/are-hopeless-copyright-wars-against-p2p-our-new-prohibition/#comment-208365</link>
		<dc:creator>Copyright oorlogen verzieken de boel &#124; Computertaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We kennen de auteursrechten maar al te goed - en alle rechtzaken die eruit voort komen. Een Amerikaanse Professor Recht aan Harvard vindt nu dat die copyright strijd eigenlijk een maat voor niets was. Ze hebben nooit geholpen - er zijn nu meer P2P file sharers dan vroeger - en een jeugd heeft eigenlijk geleerd de wetgeving aan zijn laars te lappen. Of zoals Lessig het zegt: de wet is een ezel - een ezel die je best negeert. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We kennen de auteursrechten maar al te goed &#8211; en alle rechtzaken die eruit voort komen. Een Amerikaanse Professor Recht aan Harvard vindt nu dat die copyright strijd eigenlijk een maat voor niets was. Ze hebben nooit geholpen &#8211; er zijn nu meer P2P file sharers dan vroeger &#8211; en een jeugd heeft eigenlijk geleerd de wetgeving aan zijn laars te lappen. Of zoals Lessig het zegt: de wet is een ezel &#8211; een ezel die je best negeert. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gr1</title>
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		<dc:creator>gr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-content-stealers-spend-a-ton-on-media-2009-8

honestly, get over it.</description>
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<p>honestly, get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudius Whalefist VII</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudius Whalefist VII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are arguing with yourself there Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are arguing with yourself there Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind; sorry about that. I guess I was too focused on &#039;Sam I Am&#039; lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind; sorry about that. I guess I was too focused on &#8216;Sam I Am&#8217; lol.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, I may have misread your post. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I may have misread your post. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86657/are-hopeless-copyright-wars-against-p2p-our-new-prohibition/#comment-200941</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did not even prove that &quot;it’s wrong now&quot;. Do you know why you cannot? It&#039;s because the conditions have changed entirely since the past.

&quot;Artists need to get paid for their work. Since the record companies won’t do it....&quot;

You have just contradicted yourself.

Your argument is worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did not even prove that &#8220;it’s wrong now&#8221;. Do you know why you cannot? It&#8217;s because the conditions have changed entirely since the past.</p>
<p>&#8220;Artists need to get paid for their work. Since the record companies won’t do it&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have just contradicted yourself.</p>
<p>Your argument is worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: mRuss</title>
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		<dc:creator>mRuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Artists no longer making any money? Hasn’t that been happening for years thanks to major labels totally screwing the artists anyway?&quot;

It was wrong then and it&#039;s wrong now.  Artists need to get paid for their work.  Since the record companies won&#039;t do it it&#039;s up to us to support our chosen artists directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Artists no longer making any money? Hasn’t that been happening for years thanks to major labels totally screwing the artists anyway?&#8221;</p>
<p>It was wrong then and it&#8217;s wrong now.  Artists need to get paid for their work.  Since the record companies won&#8217;t do it it&#8217;s up to us to support our chosen artists directly.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I still don&#039;t find using the &#039;ha-has!&#039; appropriate.

Anyway,

&quot;fallacious and false&quot; *</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I still don&#8217;t find using the &#8216;ha-has!&#8217; appropriate.</p>
<p>Anyway,</p>
<p>&#8220;fallacious and false&#8221; *</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it back: &#039;Sam I Am&#039; is nowhere close to being as annoying as you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it back: &#8216;Sam I Am&#8217; is nowhere close to being as annoying as you are.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Laws exist to protect minorities from mob rule as much as anyhting else. Those millions don’t necessarily get to decide what happens to someone elses property&quot;

Different laws cover entirely different matters.

Do you still insist that downloading is the same as depriving the creators&#039; rights to the content? It&#039;s utter nonsense.

&quot;Your average college student might download all the indie albums he wants for free but he wont steal from the grocery store.&quot;

Another comparison of digital products to physical products? Lame.

&quot;Lessig needs to take humself off the high paid lecture circuit so he can be objecitve, unless his libertarian activism has blinded him to the point to where he actually means stupid shit like what he said in this article.&quot;

You say that he should be objective, but you are a hypocrite for being subjective. The quality of his opinion is far greater than yours, because he

1) gives reasonable criticism,
2) neither attacked anyone nor subjectively ridiculed an opinion, and
3) is a Law professor who is more familiar with the law than you are.

You already tried attacking experts once and failed, so why attempt that again?

&quot;“* Everybody with an Internet connection would have legal access to an ever increasing part of the culture produced in the entire world.”

You basically do, ...&quot;

Not even close, idiot.

&quot;... except where piracy is so rampant that it’s not profitable to do business there.&quot;

Do you even have a spec of proof of that?

&quot;Oh, it does actually cost money. If there’s no money to buy music, there’s no money for internet.&quot;

More evidence that you are malgre: the guy who always thinks about money.

&quot;Since when is ‘access to culture’ some kind of right? Really? That in the constitution? Anyway, if you want culture, read a fucking BOOK. It aint expensive.&quot;

A book as an alternative to music? You are really a dumb ass, moron.

The writing style and the change to all lower caps in your username is just more evidence that you are malgre.

&quot;Hate to break it to you, most of their customers BUY dvd’s at walmart or amazon on impulse. It’s mostly kids that download music, families buy most of the DVD’s. The kids in college get all self-righteous about it.&quot;

This is all mindless, insincere speculation. It is an affront to all consumers.

&quot;Well Lessigs interpretation of the constitution is not the only one, and if you look at it historically, it was a balancing act between different publishers – the ones who wanted to have contracts with writers and monoplies to print something and all the other ones who were used to just printing whatever they wanted from Europe and making a shit ton of money without giving the writers anything. The people and culture didn’t have much to do with it, really.&quot;

This is malgre&#039;s writing alright. Give some citation and maybe someone would bother with this garbage, fool.

&quot;Yeah, it’s funny how inflation makes dollar amounts grow. Ticket prices have grown too, as the number of venues has shrunk. Aritsts are NOT earning mone like they did in the 90’s, don’t fool yourself. Activist studies have nothing to do with truth.

This is definitely malgre. I remember him saying that the music vs game sales are off because of not considering inflation: wrong. He always compares to the 90&#039;s and speculates about the past. Finally, he apparently has an opposition to all studies and always claim them to be created by activists.

You are an imbecile.

&quot;It costs what people are willing to pay for it, ...&quot;

Tell that to any accountant, economist, or financial worker: they will all disagree with you on this.

&quot;... unless you are a hardcore marxist and the state enforces price controls.

More stupid use of terms; you are definitely malgre. That, or you are just as stupid.

&quot;Just because you are not willing to pay for it doesnt mean you can have it.&quot;

I thought that you just wrote &quot;It costs what people are willing to pay for it&quot;. Fail.

You are still a hypocritical, ignorant and naive, arrogant dumb ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Laws exist to protect minorities from mob rule as much as anyhting else. Those millions don’t necessarily get to decide what happens to someone elses property&#8221;</p>
<p>Different laws cover entirely different matters.</p>
<p>Do you still insist that downloading is the same as depriving the creators&#8217; rights to the content? It&#8217;s utter nonsense.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your average college student might download all the indie albums he wants for free but he wont steal from the grocery store.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another comparison of digital products to physical products? Lame.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lessig needs to take humself off the high paid lecture circuit so he can be objecitve, unless his libertarian activism has blinded him to the point to where he actually means stupid shit like what he said in this article.&#8221;</p>
<p>You say that he should be objective, but you are a hypocrite for being subjective. The quality of his opinion is far greater than yours, because he</p>
<p>1) gives reasonable criticism,<br />
2) neither attacked anyone nor subjectively ridiculed an opinion, and<br />
3) is a Law professor who is more familiar with the law than you are.</p>
<p>You already tried attacking experts once and failed, so why attempt that again?</p>
<p>&#8220;“* Everybody with an Internet connection would have legal access to an ever increasing part of the culture produced in the entire world.”</p>
<p>You basically do, &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Not even close, idiot.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; except where piracy is so rampant that it’s not profitable to do business there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you even have a spec of proof of that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, it does actually cost money. If there’s no money to buy music, there’s no money for internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>More evidence that you are malgre: the guy who always thinks about money.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since when is ‘access to culture’ some kind of right? Really? That in the constitution? Anyway, if you want culture, read a fucking BOOK. It aint expensive.&#8221;</p>
<p>A book as an alternative to music? You are really a dumb ass, moron.</p>
<p>The writing style and the change to all lower caps in your username is just more evidence that you are malgre.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hate to break it to you, most of their customers BUY dvd’s at walmart or amazon on impulse. It’s mostly kids that download music, families buy most of the DVD’s. The kids in college get all self-righteous about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is all mindless, insincere speculation. It is an affront to all consumers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well Lessigs interpretation of the constitution is not the only one, and if you look at it historically, it was a balancing act between different publishers – the ones who wanted to have contracts with writers and monoplies to print something and all the other ones who were used to just printing whatever they wanted from Europe and making a shit ton of money without giving the writers anything. The people and culture didn’t have much to do with it, really.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is malgre&#8217;s writing alright. Give some citation and maybe someone would bother with this garbage, fool.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, it’s funny how inflation makes dollar amounts grow. Ticket prices have grown too, as the number of venues has shrunk. Aritsts are NOT earning mone like they did in the 90’s, don’t fool yourself. Activist studies have nothing to do with truth.</p>
<p>This is definitely malgre. I remember him saying that the music vs game sales are off because of not considering inflation: wrong. He always compares to the 90&#8217;s and speculates about the past. Finally, he apparently has an opposition to all studies and always claim them to be created by activists.</p>
<p>You are an imbecile.</p>
<p>&#8220;It costs what people are willing to pay for it, &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell that to any accountant, economist, or financial worker: they will all disagree with you on this.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; unless you are a hardcore marxist and the state enforces price controls.</p>
<p>More stupid use of terms; you are definitely malgre. That, or you are just as stupid.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because you are not willing to pay for it doesnt mean you can have it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought that you just wrote &#8220;It costs what people are willing to pay for it&#8221;. Fail.</p>
<p>You are still a hypocritical, ignorant and naive, arrogant dumb ass.</p>
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