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Exclusive: Canadian Pirate Party Responds to Green Party

Exclusive: Canadian Pirate Party Responds to Green Party

We already reported on the Green Party of Canada saying that we don’t need a Pirate Party of Canada because Canada has the Green Party. This was in response to word that the Pirate Party of Canada was forming in Canada. We’ve now gotten a response from the Pirate Party of Canada about what they think about what the Green Party said.

Their membership isn’t exactly hitting tens of thousands yet. Their manifesto hasn’t even been completed. They haven’t really been around for more than 6 months in its current incarnation. They have yet to participate in an election at all. You’d think that they wouldn’t really be making any sort of movement on their issues at all, but already, they are making waves in the media and are catching the attention of other political parties. If they are this successful already, imagine what would happen by the time they make it to the point of participating in a national election.

Earlier, in an interview with Elizabeth May, leader of the Green Party, there were comments that there isn’t a need for a Pirate Party because there’s the Green Party who has similar stances on issues with copyright and patents. While it seems to be looking like the two parties might have their differences, we also noted that the Pirate Party of Sweden has already chosen to sit with the Green Party in the European election.

The Pirate Party is well aware of the video interview and we asked for their thoughts on the subject.

“The fact that the Green Party has already noticed us and is talking about copyright law is a huge early success for the Pirate Party.” Dusty Phillips, member of the Pirate Party of Canada responded. He then said, “Even if the Green Party had the same stance as us on privacy, digital rights, copyright, and patent law [...], they were not talking about these issues in the last election; no party was.”

“The Green Party is both a model and an inspiration for us: two decades ago, environmental issues were not a part of any political platform. Now they are a major player in most political debates. We hope to follow a similar path in bringing another distinct set of very important issues to the voter’s attention.” Phillips added.

Jake Daynes, whom we spoke to earlier when the Pirate Party of Canada was forming, commented, “we feel that our two parties could help and support each other greatly.”

As for being similar to the Green Party on copyright issues, he seems to agree with our note about similarities between them and the Green Party on the international stage while finding an additional example, “We would also like to note the fact that our Swedish counterparts have opted to sit next to the Green Party in the EU, on the basis of similar interest as well as that an Austrian MEP representing the Green Party participated in the first Pirate Party International event.”

There’s been some talk already about how the current political system doesn’t allow very many parties to directly participate in policy making. Daynes commented, “In terms of Proportional Representation, we are very much in support of the idea, and realize that with the help of a PR voting system, both the Green Party and the PPoC would stand a much better chance to erect change inside our government.”

When it comes to patents, Daynes offered an example on how the Pirate Party and the Green Party of Canada could work together. He referred us to a story about how Toyota took out numerous patents on the Hybrid car to stall the competition.

Daynes then said, “we have not taken a solid stance on issues aside from our main platform, we are very open to helping other parties pursue their goals, as long as they do not contradict our purpose, or go against the democratic and constitutional rights of Canadian Citizens.”

He conceded that as of right now, the party is not in any position to help others out yet though appreciates the common stances the two parties have on several core issues.

“Right now we are busy concentrating on getting ourselves established and sorted,” he added, “and would be amenable to collaborating on projects after we have got ourselves sorted.”

The party certainly has a long way to go, but in a short period of time, they’ve accomplished quite a lot. We would like to thank the Pirate Party of Canada for responding to us.

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Drew Wilson
Drew Wilson is perhaps one of the more well-known file-sharing and technology news writers around. A journalist in the field since 2005, his work has had semi-regular appearances on social news websites and even occasional appearances on major news outlets as well. Drew founded freezenet.ca and still contributes to ZeroPaid. Twitter | Google Plus
siiix
siiix

the green party has no good program for general economy, the pirate party does, the pirates have a well rounded idea how things should go, the greens do not... as simple as that

Derek Wall
Derek Wall

open source is vital to a green society along with the defence of common property rights, the pirate party in the european parliament sits with the Green Party group which has launched an anti copyright campaign.Incidentally Richard Warman did some good work on the David Icke issue, Icke was promoting holocaust revisionism...that thought is another debate.

PetFoodz.Info
PetFoodz.Info

I hope to see throttling from Bell\Rogers very high up on the manifesto.. The duopoly is not good for Canada.. We are falling behind rapidly in internet speeds etc..Rogers & Bell say oh were building our infrastructure lolzz.. I disagree..

Dan
Dan

As a former candidate for the Green Party, I have no problem with the pirate party existing in Canada for the sake of raising the issues, although I would encourage them not to field more than the minimum number of candidates needed to maintain their party status and hope they would not run against our more serious candidates, unless they see a material difference in policy.Our stance on copyright and patents is very similar and we are home to some candidates who do in fact make it a serious part of their platform, so they would be attracting voters who may support us, while presenting no substantial policy difference on core issues.As to the last poster, I have never heard of the pirate party having a stance on "absolute freedom" to the inclusion of hate speech or serious libel.It is obvious on this that you are trying to impose your own distorted values on that movement.They are against private ownership of public information, using technology to limit consumer choice, and protecting individuals from surveillance.It is not unfetter freedom that the pp supports, it is ending the legal protection of corporate and arbitrary government abuses.I'm not defending the CHRC in its entirety (as it lacks proper due course), nor Warman's excessive use of libel suits which occurred after he served as a candidate a few years ago, however, even Michael Geist conceded that there is justification in blocking foreign websites that violate hate laws (and in some of these cases were threatening violence against Warman) if done in a transparent matter and with proper legal recourse for all sides.

FairnessFairy
FairnessFairy

The Green Party is way off base on their support for so called "freedom", which is the core issue for what the Pirate Party strives to attain.Over the course of the past 10 years, the Green Party has proven that it is in fact no friend of freedom. They have weighed in heavily in support of internet censorship and the, now embattled, Canadian Human Rights Commission.One of the most high-profile Green Party candidates is Richard Warman. Warman, has gain notoriety with is repeated, and sometimes exaggerated, complaints with the HRCs that has resulted in numerous lifetime gag orders of individuals making "offensive statements" online. This same candidate put in a motion to the CRTC to pass legislation to allow ISPs to block access to certain websites. Had this succeeded, ISP could have been instructed to ban access to domains based on arbitrary, vague guidelines, much like the legal process of the Human Rights Tribunals.The CORE of the copyright issue is the topic of Freedoms. The Green Party of Canada, is in no way a friend of individual freedoms. Their stance has been clear.Richard Warman - richardwarman.com Green Party news - http://canadianhumanrightscommission.com/about-warman/310--montreal-prof-quits-green-party-in-protest-over-richard-warman

kepners
kepners

Long Live the Pirate Party!Long live TPB.com

bub
bub

I always vote conservatives ,but I may vote this party.



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