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	<title>Comments on: EFF Slams ASCAP&#8217;s Proposed Ringtone Performance Tax</title>
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		<title>By: 2009 &#8211; A ZeroPaid Year in Review &#8211; Part 2 of 3</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-220455</link>
		<dc:creator>2009 &#8211; A ZeroPaid Year in Review &#8211; Part 2 of 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kept rolling over ASCAPs decision to demand performance royalties on ringtones, but the EFF slammed ASCAP for the demands saying that ringtones are like music being heard on a car stereo system with the car windows rolled [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] kept rolling over ASCAPs decision to demand performance royalties on ringtones, but the EFF slammed ASCAP for the demands saying that ringtones are like music being heard on a car stereo system with the car windows rolled [...]</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-200646</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t need a damn ringtone.&quot;

Many prefer having ringtones.

&quot;A ringtone is a really cheap thing...So I’m not too worried about the price going up, I can’t see people paying more that a dollar for that.&quot;

The initial cost could be cheap, but taxing every time the ringtone goes off in public could increase the total cost indefinitely for no reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t need a damn ringtone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many prefer having ringtones.</p>
<p>&#8220;A ringtone is a really cheap thing&#8230;So I’m not too worried about the price going up, I can’t see people paying more that a dollar for that.&#8221;</p>
<p>The initial cost could be cheap, but taxing every time the ringtone goes off in public could increase the total cost indefinitely for no reason.</p>
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		<title>By: D.AN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-200642</link>
		<dc:creator>D.AN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, that is not how price is dictated, the price is dictated by what people are willing to pay.&quot;

No, the price is decided by the shareholders or whoever is in charge of the pricing. The fact that people are going to buy something necessarily means that they are willing to pay, but that does not at all have anything to do with the pricing. An example would be the fat PS3.

&quot;The myth that taxes [...] are ‘passed along to the consumer’&quot;

It is not a myth as it actually happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, that is not how price is dictated, the price is dictated by what people are willing to pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the price is decided by the shareholders or whoever is in charge of the pricing. The fact that people are going to buy something necessarily means that they are willing to pay, but that does not at all have anything to do with the pricing. An example would be the fat PS3.</p>
<p>&#8220;The myth that taxes [...] are ‘passed along to the consumer’&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not a myth as it actually happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-196167</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, just how are they going to police cell phone ring tones?  I upload my own ring tones because I can&#039;t stand the ones that are made available.  My phone is loaded up with all sorts of songs, and video game music...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, just how are they going to police cell phone ring tones?  I upload my own ring tones because I can&#8217;t stand the ones that are made available.  My phone is loaded up with all sorts of songs, and video game music&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mal greenborg</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195571</link>
		<dc:creator>mal greenborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but that&#039;s food and gas. How long can you go without it? I have to buy that stuff. I don&#039;t need a damn ringtone. 

Also, grocery stores and gas pumps are low margin businesses. What you pay is only a few cents more than they do. A ringtone is a really cheap thing, and at least at itunes they used to cost a buck. The royalties here are pennies. So I&#039;m not too worried about the price going up, I can&#039;t see people paying more that a dollar for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but that&#8217;s food and gas. How long can you go without it? I have to buy that stuff. I don&#8217;t need a damn ringtone. </p>
<p>Also, grocery stores and gas pumps are low margin businesses. What you pay is only a few cents more than they do. A ringtone is a really cheap thing, and at least at itunes they used to cost a buck. The royalties here are pennies. So I&#8217;m not too worried about the price going up, I can&#8217;t see people paying more that a dollar for that.</p>
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		<title>By: DrewWilson</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195460</link>
		<dc:creator>DrewWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While that is something someone learns in economics 101, there&#039;s another factor that one has to consider - profit margins.  A business cannot sell at a loss for 100% of its merchandise.

Many corporations - including AT&amp;T - have to contend with share-holders.  I doubt that share-holders would vote unanimously to allow the profits to directly tumble because of one entity demanding royalties.

Given that record labels are already taking a cut from any authorized sale of a ringtone, I highly doubt that AT&amp;T is earning 100% of the profit.

As such, if a new royalty rate is tacked on to ringtones, the cost could be passed on to consumers in the same fasion the price of food has gone up in small food related businesses when the price of gas was soaring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While that is something someone learns in economics 101, there&#8217;s another factor that one has to consider &#8211; profit margins.  A business cannot sell at a loss for 100% of its merchandise.</p>
<p>Many corporations &#8211; including AT&amp;T &#8211; have to contend with share-holders.  I doubt that share-holders would vote unanimously to allow the profits to directly tumble because of one entity demanding royalties.</p>
<p>Given that record labels are already taking a cut from any authorized sale of a ringtone, I highly doubt that AT&amp;T is earning 100% of the profit.</p>
<p>As such, if a new royalty rate is tacked on to ringtones, the cost could be passed on to consumers in the same fasion the price of food has gone up in small food related businesses when the price of gas was soaring.</p>
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		<title>By: mal greenborg</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195454</link>
		<dc:creator>mal greenborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that is not how price is dictated, the price is dictated by what people are willing to pay. Conisdering that ringtones are gravy, allmost all profit, I think the price will remain the same. 

The myth that taxes and royalties are &#039;passed along to the consumer&#039; has allowed politicains who knew better to hoodwink the American people into subsidizing huge corporatins for forty years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that is not how price is dictated, the price is dictated by what people are willing to pay. Conisdering that ringtones are gravy, allmost all profit, I think the price will remain the same. </p>
<p>The myth that taxes and royalties are &#8216;passed along to the consumer&#8217; has allowed politicains who knew better to hoodwink the American people into subsidizing huge corporatins for forty years.</p>
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		<title>By: DrewWilson</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195398</link>
		<dc:creator>DrewWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t suppose you consider the fact that when a new tax is tacked on to a service, the cost of doing business is passed onto consumers, did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose you consider the fact that when a new tax is tacked on to a service, the cost of doing business is passed onto consumers, did you?</p>
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		<title>By: lorne</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195326</link>
		<dc:creator>lorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my boycott continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my boycott continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mal greenborg</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86567/eff-slams-ascaps-proposed-ringtone-performance-tax/#comment-195305</link>
		<dc:creator>mal greenborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to corporate stooges the EFF to  support AT&amp;T&#039;s huge profit margin over the rights of songwriters.  What a bunch of deluded losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to corporate stooges the EFF to  support AT&amp;T&#8217;s huge profit margin over the rights of songwriters.  What a bunch of deluded losers.</p>
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