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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One of IceCube&#8217;s Articles Goes Viral</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86412/mpaa-admits-to-losing-pr-war-to-the-enemies-of-copyright/#comment-193384</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; One of IceCube&#8217;s Articles Goes Viral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article in question this time appears to be my MPAA Admits to losing the PR war article. When I read that quote about the &#8220;Enemies of copyright&#8221; and how it&#8217;s untrue that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article in question this time appears to be my MPAA Admits to losing the PR war article. When I read that quote about the &#8220;Enemies of copyright&#8221; and how it&#8217;s untrue that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Unlikely Words &#187; 34 Reasons the MPAA Lost Their PR War Against You</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86412/mpaa-admits-to-losing-pr-war-to-the-enemies-of-copyright/#comment-193347</link>
		<dc:creator>Unlikely Words &#187; 34 Reasons the MPAA Lost Their PR War Against You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a good write up of the MPAA&#8217;s Lost PR War against the ‘Enemies of Copyright’. In it is a scathing paragraph detailing discussing most of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: polyorchnid octopunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>polyorchnid octopunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lonesomerobot: that&#039;s exactly how it&#039;s done in Canada. Somehow, that has resulted in us ending up on that list of countries that disdain copyright law.

The CRIA got caught with their hand in the cookie jar on that surtax when they were lobbying for DMCA-like laws.

I&#039;m a professional musician and songwriter. Those people are dead, dead... none of us in my local community of artists think any of those people (CRIA, MPAA, RIAA etc) have anything other than their own pockets in mind. Fortunately, cheap recording tech and almost free distribution means that we can produce and distribute our own work and use it as a way to help us put paying butts in seats for performances. This is a bit hard on people who aren&#039;t in performing arts (writers and filmmakers, for example) but I&#039;m sure they&#039;re going to figure out a way to do it too.

The way we think like this? Because it&#039;s been very apparent that the distinction between &quot;creators&quot; and &quot;owners&quot; means that we don&#039;t get paid regardless. So fuck &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lonesomerobot: that&#8217;s exactly how it&#8217;s done in Canada. Somehow, that has resulted in us ending up on that list of countries that disdain copyright law.</p>
<p>The CRIA got caught with their hand in the cookie jar on that surtax when they were lobbying for DMCA-like laws.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a professional musician and songwriter. Those people are dead, dead&#8230; none of us in my local community of artists think any of those people (CRIA, MPAA, RIAA etc) have anything other than their own pockets in mind. Fortunately, cheap recording tech and almost free distribution means that we can produce and distribute our own work and use it as a way to help us put paying butts in seats for performances. This is a bit hard on people who aren&#8217;t in performing arts (writers and filmmakers, for example) but I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re going to figure out a way to do it too.</p>
<p>The way we think like this? Because it&#8217;s been very apparent that the distinction between &#8220;creators&#8221; and &#8220;owners&#8221; means that we don&#8217;t get paid regardless. So fuck &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: lonesomerobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonesomerobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as someone who used to work in copyright administration (until 2006), I can tell you only a very few of them get it.

we already have a solution, and it works! when dual cassette decks were the scourge, legislation was passed that added a tiny surcharge to the media and recorders. the money was collected into a fund that was then dispersed based on record sales.

the same thing could be done today - surcharge the means (i&#039;m talking 1-2 cents on discs, 40-50 cents on burners and mp3 players, etc), create a reporting system for file sharing and downloads, and tell the consumers to have at it.

copyright owners get paid, consumers get access without demonization, end of story.

these people are so caught up in how we did it last century they&#039;re going to lose the farm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as someone who used to work in copyright administration (until 2006), I can tell you only a very few of them get it.</p>
<p>we already have a solution, and it works! when dual cassette decks were the scourge, legislation was passed that added a tiny surcharge to the media and recorders. the money was collected into a fund that was then dispersed based on record sales.</p>
<p>the same thing could be done today &#8211; surcharge the means (i&#8217;m talking 1-2 cents on discs, 40-50 cents on burners and mp3 players, etc), create a reporting system for file sharing and downloads, and tell the consumers to have at it.</p>
<p>copyright owners get paid, consumers get access without demonization, end of story.</p>
<p>these people are so caught up in how we did it last century they&#8217;re going to lose the farm.</p>
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		<title>By: A Case Against Internet Piracy &#171; Pirika Pirilala</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Case Against Internet Piracy &#171; Pirika Pirilala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86412/mpaa-admits-to-losing-pr-war-to-the-enemies-of-copyright/ ) And what’s more, they seem to continue to endorse the industry standard non-DRM’ed mp3 format which will just prolong an archaic and unnecessarily lossy format while at the same encouraging more illegal distribution. There should be a solution that lets me listen to a CD on my iPod but not sell 40 copies out of the back of my truck. And now the RIAA continues kangaroo court prosecutions. It’s very sad that if they don’t get their act together, artists will suffer (at least for the time being). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86412/mpaa-admits-to-losing-pr-war-to-the-enemies-of-copyright/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86412/mpaa-admits-to-losing-pr-war-to-the-enemies-of-copyright/</a> ) And what’s more, they seem to continue to endorse the industry standard non-DRM’ed mp3 format which will just prolong an archaic and unnecessarily lossy format while at the same encouraging more illegal distribution. There should be a solution that lets me listen to a CD on my iPod but not sell 40 copies out of the back of my truck. And now the RIAA continues kangaroo court prosecutions. It’s very sad that if they don’t get their act together, artists will suffer (at least for the time being). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intellectual property fees MUST be collected at the ISP level, nowhere else.  This is NOT a &quot;tax&quot; on internet services, this is the government getting the HELL out of the way and allow existing laws to collect for final point of distribution to consumer intellectual property.

The feds MUST stop indemnifying AT&amp;T against any wrongdoing like delivering property that doesn&#039;t belong to them, and charging a premium for this service.  ASCAP is a non-governmental agency that collects for copyright holders from final-point-of-distribution entities like bars and restaurants and radio stations, because THEY are charging customers for the added value music brings to their establishments and broadcasts.  ISPs MUST be forced to do the same, and the government needs to BUTT OUT.

It is the way forward, and if you don&#039;t understand that, YOU butt out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intellectual property fees MUST be collected at the ISP level, nowhere else.  This is NOT a &#8220;tax&#8221; on internet services, this is the government getting the HELL out of the way and allow existing laws to collect for final point of distribution to consumer intellectual property.</p>
<p>The feds MUST stop indemnifying AT&amp;T against any wrongdoing like delivering property that doesn&#8217;t belong to them, and charging a premium for this service.  ASCAP is a non-governmental agency that collects for copyright holders from final-point-of-distribution entities like bars and restaurants and radio stations, because THEY are charging customers for the added value music brings to their establishments and broadcasts.  ISPs MUST be forced to do the same, and the government needs to BUTT OUT.</p>
<p>It is the way forward, and if you don&#8217;t understand that, YOU butt out.</p>
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		<title>By: That One Guy Who Points Things Out on the Internet</title>
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		<dc:creator>That One Guy Who Points Things Out on the Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave:

You&#039;re right, but the reason they expected us to give them their wallets is because that&#039;s how it&#039;s always been. Large economic entities, whether a corporation, a railroad, or the aristocracy, have always done bupkiss for anyone, except take their money. The internet is the greatest tool in the history of humanity in finally fighting back against state-sanctioned theft.

Oh, and Herr G: Invest in a new brain, maybe one that&#039;s open a bit. Biker gangs are referred to as &quot;Bikeys&quot; throughout the British Diaspora. Except in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, but the reason they expected us to give them their wallets is because that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s always been. Large economic entities, whether a corporation, a railroad, or the aristocracy, have always done bupkiss for anyone, except take their money. The internet is the greatest tool in the history of humanity in finally fighting back against state-sanctioned theft.</p>
<p>Oh, and Herr G: Invest in a new brain, maybe one that&#8217;s open a bit. Biker gangs are referred to as &#8220;Bikeys&#8221; throughout the British Diaspora. Except in America.</p>
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		<title>By: t4toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>t4toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice short list.

Wankers.

Shorter RIAA:

&lt;blockquote&gt;How come the kids hate us?  We&#039;re all hep cats!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice short list.</p>
<p>Wankers.</p>
<p>Shorter RIAA:</p>
<blockquote><p>How come the kids hate us?  We&#8217;re all hep cats!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; “We have got to do a better job” at attempting 
&gt; approaches at copyright protection “in a way 
&gt; that we get paid but also that consumers can 
&gt; access our works,” he added.

We *have* to get paid. Oh ... and I suppose people actually have to get something from us in return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; “We have got to do a better job” at attempting<br />
&gt; approaches at copyright protection “in a way<br />
&gt; that we get paid but also that consumers can<br />
&gt; access our works,” he added.</p>
<p>We *have* to get paid. Oh &#8230; and I suppose people actually have to get something from us in return.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Grammar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Grammar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bypass&quot;, &quot;biker gangs&quot;.

Invest in a spellchecker and grammar checker. I hear they&#039;re free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bypass&#8221;, &#8220;biker gangs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Invest in a spellchecker and grammar checker. I hear they&#8217;re free.</p>
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