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		<title>By: alonzo gonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>alonzo gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still getting rich? Ever heard of Modest Mouse? If they had come out in the early nineties when people still bought records, they might have sold a million like Janes Addiction instead of a measly 200,000. They are just as popular, if not more so, people just download instead of buy. 

There are currently half as many venues to play in in the US as there were 20 years ago. This is a FACT. The pay is the same as it was thirty years ago. This is a FACT. The music industry as a whole is HALF the size it was ten years ago. That is a FACT. Look it up! You can support piracy for ideological reasons if you want to, but don&#039;t kid yourself about what it does to musicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still getting rich? Ever heard of Modest Mouse? If they had come out in the early nineties when people still bought records, they might have sold a million like Janes Addiction instead of a measly 200,000. They are just as popular, if not more so, people just download instead of buy. </p>
<p>There are currently half as many venues to play in in the US as there were 20 years ago. This is a FACT. The pay is the same as it was thirty years ago. This is a FACT. The music industry as a whole is HALF the size it was ten years ago. That is a FACT. Look it up! You can support piracy for ideological reasons if you want to, but don&#8217;t kid yourself about what it does to musicians.</p>
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		<title>By: alonzo gonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>alonzo gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Souza&#039;s complaints were resolved when the government created the &#039;mechanical&#039; rights and composers started getting payed for recorded and broadcast music. Thay still do, if the music is bought and paid for.

Pepe, if you sold 300,000 records then you know all about it, if you wrote the material yourself then you will have about 300,000 dollars in publishing royalties to show for it, as mandated by copyright law. Unless you were dumb and unusual and signed all your publishing away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Souza&#8217;s complaints were resolved when the government created the &#8216;mechanical&#8217; rights and composers started getting payed for recorded and broadcast music. Thay still do, if the music is bought and paid for.</p>
<p>Pepe, if you sold 300,000 records then you know all about it, if you wrote the material yourself then you will have about 300,000 dollars in publishing royalties to show for it, as mandated by copyright law. Unless you were dumb and unusual and signed all your publishing away.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Steinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Steinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a niggling point in the name of accuracy; I believe that what was being pirated in 1897 and described in the article was sheet music, not records.  Remember, a hundred years ago many more people played musical instruments and the music for popular songs was a real commodity -- before radio and before the popularity of phonographs, &quot;talking machines,&quot; &quot;gramophones&quot; and the like.  But a fascinating article nonetheless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a niggling point in the name of accuracy; I believe that what was being pirated in 1897 and described in the article was sheet music, not records.  Remember, a hundred years ago many more people played musical instruments and the music for popular songs was a real commodity &#8212; before radio and before the popularity of phonographs, &#8220;talking machines,&#8221; &#8220;gramophones&#8221; and the like.  But a fascinating article nonetheless!</p>
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		<title>By: DrewWilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrewWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s things like that that have me going unsigned in my musical endeavors.  I don&#039;t look at the major record labels, get glazy eyes and scream, &quot;Please, pick me!  Pick me!&quot;  I look at the major record labels and say, &quot;Not a f**king chance.  I want to retain some rights like the ability to make money off of my own music thank you.&quot;

It&#039;s sad knowing that I&#039;m probably still in a minority for indie artists though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s things like that that have me going unsigned in my musical endeavors.  I don&#8217;t look at the major record labels, get glazy eyes and scream, &#8220;Please, pick me!  Pick me!&#8221;  I look at the major record labels and say, &#8220;Not a f**king chance.  I want to retain some rights like the ability to make money off of my own music thank you.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad knowing that I&#8217;m probably still in a minority for indie artists though.</p>
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		<title>By: Music Industry Angry Over Piracy from…1897? &#171; Prema LaNay (A Growing Woman&#8217;s Tales)~A songwriter&#8217;s perception may be weird for you to see at first&#8230;just add music.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Music Industry Angry Over Piracy from…1897? &#171; Prema LaNay (A Growing Woman&#8217;s Tales)~A songwriter&#8217;s perception may be weird for you to see at first&#8230;just add music.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pepe gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepe gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 02:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>music piracy??,i recorded 5 albums,starting in 1975,sold 300,000 copies,was re-released in 2000 and still selling and i haven&#039;t seen a penny yet,play it,produced it,wrote the songs,sang them,copyrighted by ascap(the original pirates) on abc dunhill,and mercury records,and someone is talking about 2-4 cents,gimme a break,what happened to the good music lawyers? oh yeah they work for the pirates!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>music piracy??,i recorded 5 albums,starting in 1975,sold 300,000 copies,was re-released in 2000 and still selling and i haven&#8217;t seen a penny yet,play it,produced it,wrote the songs,sang them,copyrighted by ascap(the original pirates) on abc dunhill,and mercury records,and someone is talking about 2-4 cents,gimme a break,what happened to the good music lawyers? oh yeah they work for the pirates!!</p>
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		<title>By: open_universe</title>
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		<dc:creator>open_universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 00:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny.  Just too funny.  Good thing you didn&#039;t discover this around April 1, no one would have believed you.

You&#039;re SURE this article is legit, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny.  Just too funny.  Good thing you didn&#8217;t discover this around April 1, no one would have believed you.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re SURE this article is legit, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They claimed that sales were down 50%!!! Nonsense. That&#039;s the same kind of absurd lie they&#039;re telling today.

Popular artists are still getting rich, even the ones that choose to make their money without focusing on the traditional sale of records.

Anybody also notice the sheer volume of sales through iTunes? Sorry if we&#039;re not buying the 11 songs that suck, but if you let me buy the one good one, I&#039;m going to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They claimed that sales were down 50%!!! Nonsense. That&#8217;s the same kind of absurd lie they&#8217;re telling today.</p>
<p>Popular artists are still getting rich, even the ones that choose to make their money without focusing on the traditional sale of records.</p>
<p>Anybody also notice the sheer volume of sales through iTunes? Sorry if we&#8217;re not buying the 11 songs that suck, but if you let me buy the one good one, I&#8217;m going to.</p>
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		<title>By: Now Reading: Music Piracy in 1897 &#124; A Huge Failing of Machines That Go Bing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Now Reading: Music Piracy in 1897 &#124; A Huge Failing of Machines That Go Bing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aikanae</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikanae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, nothing&#039;s changed.


-- John Philips Sousa, 1906, The Menace of Mechanical Music
http://www.phonozoic.net/n0155.htm

&quot;For the life of me I am puzzled to know why the powerful corporations controlling these playing and talking machines are so totally blind to the moral and ethical questions involved. Could anything be more blamable, as a matter of principle, than to take an artist’s composition, reproduce it a thousandfold on their machines, and deny him all participation in the large financial returns, by hiding back of the diaphanous pretense that in the guise of a disk or roll, his composition is not his property?

&quot;Do they not realize that if the accredited composers, who have come into vogue by reason of merit and labor, are refused a just reward for their efforts, a condition is almost sure to arise where all incentive to further creative work is lacking, and compositions will no longer flow from their pens; or where they will be compelled to refrain from publishing their compositions at all, and control them in manuscript? What, then, of the playing and talking machines?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, nothing&#8217;s changed.</p>
<p>&#8211; John Philips Sousa, 1906, The Menace of Mechanical Music<br />
<a href="http://www.phonozoic.net/n0155.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.phonozoic.net/n0155.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;For the life of me I am puzzled to know why the powerful corporations controlling these playing and talking machines are so totally blind to the moral and ethical questions involved. Could anything be more blamable, as a matter of principle, than to take an artist’s composition, reproduce it a thousandfold on their machines, and deny him all participation in the large financial returns, by hiding back of the diaphanous pretense that in the guise of a disk or roll, his composition is not his property?</p>
<p>&#8220;Do they not realize that if the accredited composers, who have come into vogue by reason of merit and labor, are refused a just reward for their efforts, a condition is almost sure to arise where all incentive to further creative work is lacking, and compositions will no longer flow from their pens; or where they will be compelled to refrain from publishing their compositions at all, and control them in manuscript? What, then, of the playing and talking machines?”</p>
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