Comments on: Greedy Torrent – QnA with Alex NJ, the developer

By: mp3MaStA88

mp3MaStA88 — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

quoted from the creator of the program “What typically happens in a single torrent is that at the beginning upload and download ratios are reasonably correlated then over time people finish downloading and some of them leave but a significant number of seeds remain. After a while there’s a period of time where there are many more seeders than downloaders. Anyone who joins the torrent at this late time will be generally get a download rate limited by their download capacity and anyone who tries to upload to them will only be able to do so at a low rate. Such people will have very out of whack upload/download ratios but they’re downloading from otherwise unutilized upload resources and hence not being anywhere near the drain on the system that their total upload/download ratio indicates.

[Leechers are] engaging in perfectly reasonable and non-destructive behavior and the site is trying to punish him for it thus fostering the creation of clients which lie about their statistics. This is the site’s fault and the result could do serious damage to the value of BitTorrent statistics generally. Sites which do this are being extremely destructive and the way they grandstand about how they’re fostering sharing really ticks me off.

So maybe the whole notion of using ratio-exploit software isn’t as cut and dry as some would make it seem. I think it does have a rightful time and place to be used and that perhaps its very creation is a sign that something about the system as it now exists needs to be changed.”

I agree with this. people download stuff and sometimes the amount of seeders is so high that their ratio to even it out would either take for ever or won’t even out to a 1:1 ratio even if they left it on. So in my opinion there should be a share amount so that one person can only upload to a certain share ratio and then they are taken off of that file’s share so that another person can have the ability to upload in their spot.

By: soulxtc

soulxtc — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

Yah thats what I think like a “discount: I guess so that over time the amount of data you are charged with diminishes so that people arent penalized for grabbing a file simply because they werent part of the initial DL and UL peak swatm.

By: meyou123

meyou123 — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

The problem with this is that do you people really think that anyone is going to consider WHEN it should or should not be used? I say NO WAY! They are just gonna use this program to leech period! I don’t doubt that there are circumstances that make using this justified….but let’s get real here….do you actually think that people using this peogram are only going to use it in some situations in the article?

I don’t think so.

By: soulxtc

soulxtc — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

@Meyou123

Oh I agree I doubt too many people will be so upright as to say “I will only use it in situations AB and C”……

Having said that though I think the fact that it’s needed at all hints that maybe the system as it currently is could use a little bit of tweaking so that people wouldn’t necessarily feel compelled to use it at all.

By: Myrodushin

Myrodushin — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

I understand legitimate situations in which it can be used. ALL things in the world have good and bad uses (think P2P) but I think it will be used for the abusive reasons moreso than good reasons (think P2P lol) I’m still keep an eye on my private tracker for suspicious stats.