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	<title>Comments on: BitTorrent Ratio Exploit Software on the Increase</title>
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		<title>By: kram</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7473/bittorrent_ratio_exploit_software_on_the_increase/#comment-204454</link>
		<dc:creator>kram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are, just keep seeding. What&#039;s the problem with seeding a torrent long term (years not months)? Even if you have a crappy upload speed, you are still keeping that torrent alive by seeding it, eventually someone else will finish, and help you seed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are, just keep seeding. What&#8217;s the problem with seeding a torrent long term (years not months)? Even if you have a crappy upload speed, you are still keeping that torrent alive by seeding it, eventually someone else will finish, and help you seed.</p>
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		<title>By: unanonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>unanonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, I have dialup, so I get **2 kiloBits** per second as my normal download speed, not to mention upload speed.

I only get a high connection in public places, so (since I am not going to clog up my phone 24/7 with dialup just to torrent) I can only torrent a few hours per week. Slow download speeds are annoying enough, but what&#039;s really frustrating is that most of the files I get either have enough seeds that I don&#039;t get to upload anything enough to affect my ratio, or has no leechers at all.

I do not believe I am &quot;leeching&quot; when no one actually wants the file I download. I&#039;ve left my dialup on and utorrent on overnight and the total amount uploaded usually does not exceed 100 kb.

So unlike the average person, I can&#039;t get my ratio over 0.2 just because there are no friggin leechers!! Who&#039;s the leech now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, I have dialup, so I get **2 kiloBits** per second as my normal download speed, not to mention upload speed.</p>
<p>I only get a high connection in public places, so (since I am not going to clog up my phone 24/7 with dialup just to torrent) I can only torrent a few hours per week. Slow download speeds are annoying enough, but what&#8217;s really frustrating is that most of the files I get either have enough seeds that I don&#8217;t get to upload anything enough to affect my ratio, or has no leechers at all.</p>
<p>I do not believe I am &#8220;leeching&#8221; when no one actually wants the file I download. I&#8217;ve left my dialup on and utorrent on overnight and the total amount uploaded usually does not exceed 100 kb.</p>
<p>So unlike the average person, I can&#8217;t get my ratio over 0.2 just because there are no friggin leechers!! Who&#8217;s the leech now?</p>
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		<title>By: hdxman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7473/bittorrent_ratio_exploit_software_on_the_increase/#comment-198789</link>
		<dc:creator>hdxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol share it rather than cheat it. The thing you said is correct, i seed all the files i download fo almost 20 hours a day but my ratio is still .489</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol share it rather than cheat it. The thing you said is correct, i seed all the files i download fo almost 20 hours a day but my ratio is still .489</p>
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		<title>By: Mels_Smileys45</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mels_Smileys45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SoulXTC did you do the &quot;testing&quot;? LMAO! This are great programs for those &quot;private&quot; sites. Its good to see MI involved with ZP again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SoulXTC did you do the &#8220;testing&#8221;? LMAO! This are great programs for those &#8220;private&#8221; sites. Its good to see MI involved with ZP again.</p>
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		<title>By: bugmenot42</title>
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		<dc:creator>bugmenot42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great stuff !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great stuff !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: soulxtc</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7473/bittorrent_ratio_exploit_software_on_the_increase/#comment-184800</link>
		<dc:creator>soulxtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just say the part about OINK is dead on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just say the part about OINK is dead on!</p>
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		<title>By: shawners</title>
		<link>http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7473/bittorrent_ratio_exploit_software_on_the_increase/#comment-184801</link>
		<dc:creator>shawners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah  but wait til you see 10 seeders and and two leechers.. You jump on it and your speed is actually 5-15kbs on a dvd5.. That kind of shit will piss you off. If you dont want to share dont join the site. Simple as that. Leech on torrentspy and where your not required to seed anything. This kind of garbage will make any community a poor one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah  but wait til you see 10 seeders and and two leechers.. You jump on it and your speed is actually 5-15kbs on a dvd5.. That kind of shit will piss you off. If you dont want to share dont join the site. Simple as that. Leech on torrentspy and where your not required to seed anything. This kind of garbage will make any community a poor one.</p>
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		<title>By: shawners</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing is Mel smiley is against sharing or being apart of a private site. And why would he want to increase his upload ratio?? He is afraid already that he would get busted or they would go for the big uploaders. I may make my own torrent on the public sites use ratio master to seed or to send info to the tracker. .And piss off a large scale of morons when they dont download 1meg. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing is Mel smiley is against sharing or being apart of a private site. And why would he want to increase his upload ratio?? He is afraid already that he would get busted or they would go for the big uploaders. I may make my own torrent on the public sites use ratio master to seed or to send info to the tracker. .And piss off a large scale of morons when they dont download 1meg.</p>
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		<title>By: lavaio</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavaio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ich freue mich schon auf das programm :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ich freue mich schon auf das programm <img src='http://www.zeropaid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: meyou123</title>
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		<dc:creator>meyou123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to me if you don&#039;t want to seed then DON&#039;T use torrents...get yourself a good Newsgroup provider and leech away. I sometimes use torrents but I always try to keep my ratio at 1 to 1 or as close as I can get. 

But there is  ALSO a part that is true about downloadinga file...and then trying to upload it back....but because it may not be a very popular one...you may have a hard time doing it EVEN if you leave your client on for days. This causes your upload to suffer and your ratio goes down...even thouygh you are trying to upload it back! 

I think what needs to be done is what the article said....encourage people to share by noticing how long they have had a torrent uploading rather than jumping on them because they may have downloaded a file that they can&#039;t easily be uploaded because nobody wants it. 

It is because of this reason that I think the &quot;BT ratio cheat&quot; programs are taking off.  I am NOT saying that it is right but I am saying that if you have a torrent that you have downloaded and then tried to upload it back and left your computer on for days at a time trying to upload that same torrent and it only  shows a  very small amount uploaded back....it can get fustrating!  Because you are TRYING to upload a file back that you took but you are not able to force people to download your file...so your upload suffers and you are jumped on by the admins of some sites for not uploading! 

There is more than just one side to this story. I do NOT condone using a cheat program of any kind with BT but I also see the fustration it can bring when you try to give back a torrent you downloaded but nobody wants it!  It is one of the main reasons I stopped using BT as my main way of getting files. I now use Newgroups where I don&#039;t have to worry about uploading a certian amount just to download a file! 

I only use BT for rare or special content I cannot get on newsgroups...but I make SURE that there is enough people that want it if I decide to download a file off of BT because I know how much of a pain it is to try to upload something that you maight have wanted but is not a very popular file and it brings your ratio down. 

Of course if I want REALLY rare files...and I don&#039;t mind waiting a few weeks to get it then there is always the &quot;mule&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to me if you don&#8217;t want to seed then DON&#8217;T use torrents&#8230;get yourself a good Newsgroup provider and leech away. I sometimes use torrents but I always try to keep my ratio at 1 to 1 or as close as I can get. </p>
<p>But there is  ALSO a part that is true about downloadinga file&#8230;and then trying to upload it back&#8230;.but because it may not be a very popular one&#8230;you may have a hard time doing it EVEN if you leave your client on for days. This causes your upload to suffer and your ratio goes down&#8230;even thouygh you are trying to upload it back! </p>
<p>I think what needs to be done is what the article said&#8230;.encourage people to share by noticing how long they have had a torrent uploading rather than jumping on them because they may have downloaded a file that they can&#8217;t easily be uploaded because nobody wants it. </p>
<p>It is because of this reason that I think the &#8220;BT ratio cheat&#8221; programs are taking off.  I am NOT saying that it is right but I am saying that if you have a torrent that you have downloaded and then tried to upload it back and left your computer on for days at a time trying to upload that same torrent and it only  shows a  very small amount uploaded back&#8230;.it can get fustrating!  Because you are TRYING to upload a file back that you took but you are not able to force people to download your file&#8230;so your upload suffers and you are jumped on by the admins of some sites for not uploading! </p>
<p>There is more than just one side to this story. I do NOT condone using a cheat program of any kind with BT but I also see the fustration it can bring when you try to give back a torrent you downloaded but nobody wants it!  It is one of the main reasons I stopped using BT as my main way of getting files. I now use Newgroups where I don&#8217;t have to worry about uploading a certian amount just to download a file! </p>
<p>I only use BT for rare or special content I cannot get on newsgroups&#8230;but I make SURE that there is enough people that want it if I decide to download a file off of BT because I know how much of a pain it is to try to upload something that you maight have wanted but is not a very popular file and it brings your ratio down. </p>
<p>Of course if I want REALLY rare files&#8230;and I don&#8217;t mind waiting a few weeks to get it then there is always the &#8220;mule&#8221;.</p>
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