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US Government Jails Marine Veteran for Posting Comments to Facebook

US Government Jails Marine Veteran for Posting Comments to Facebook

A US marine veteran is in custody after making comments on Facebook about 9/11 conspiracy theories. In addition to being detained, he is reportedly being forced to undergo psychiatric testing as well. For me, this case disturbs me, but for reasons no one else seems to be even covering at all.

It’s always troubling whenever we hear of people being detained by the government over online activities. It is disturbing when any country does it – especially when the United States does it for political reasons. First off, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to detain someone like if they are about to cause harm to another individual for instance. This case, however, I don’t see how the actions of this individual justifies such an extreme response from the US government given how the government has handled other similar cases.

The story starts with a marine veteran by the name of Brandon J. Raub posting 9/11 conspiracy theories to Facebook. Apparently, these comments were published privately. From the ABC Report, there’s not a whole lot that was out of the ordinary from someone passionate about 9/11 conspiracy theories. There were reportedly pictures of the hole in the Pentagon building and words splashed on it “where’s the plane”. Another comment which, I agree, was over the line, was “Sharpen my axe; I’m here to sever heads.”

It apparently was that comment that caught someone’s attention and that comment was reported to authorities. Raub was then taken into custody and will definitely remain there for another 30 days as he is forced to undergo psychiatric testing. From the report:

Police — acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional — took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.

A Virginia-based civil liberties group, The Rutherford Institute, dispatched one of its attorneys to the hospital to represent Raub at a hearing Monday. A judge ordered Raub detained for another month, Rutherford executive director John Whitehead said.

While this has sparked the usual debate over the first amendment, an alleged violation of free speech, national security, wiretapping and even caused others to create a support group for Raub amongst others, there is one thing that actually bothers me about all of this. If you’re thinking that it’s fears of an impending police state (which can be a concern), an opinion about the conspiracy theory itself (which I don’t buy into after looking into the science surrounding 9/11), or how our digital rights are constantly being encroached (which is also a legitimate concern), those are not the reasons that is bothering to me here. The thing that really bothers me about this case arises from when you compare this reaction to when other ideologies made similar comments and how the government reacted.

The most famous example is when a Republican newsletter called for an armed resurrection if Obama is re-elected back in May. The only reaction from all of that (to my knowledge) was that the person in question was shown the door for the publication and his comments were denounced by Republicans. The comment in question was, “The ultimate task for the people is to remain vigilant and aware ~ that the government, their government is out of control, and this moment, this opportunity, must not be forsaken, must not escape us, for we shall not have any coarse but armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November ~ This Republic cannot survive for 4 more years underneath this political socialist ideologue.”

This, of course, isn’t the only example of an over-the-top comment. Back in 2010, Richard Behney said, “I believe personally, we’re at a crossroads. We have one last opportunity. And I believe 2010 is it. All right? And we can do it with our vote. And we can get new faces in, whether it’s my face or not, I pray to God that I see new faces. And if we don’t see new faces, I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.” (Hat tip ZeroPaid forum member YWD67 for that find.)

What was the reaction of authorities? A questioning by the FBI? Some aftershocks from the publicity?

My question is, have authorities really gotten to the point where they are beginning to pick and choose ideologies when it comes to national security? You have Raub threatening to sever heads on a private page on Facebook and he is detained and being forced to undergo psychiatric tests against his will, then on the other side, you have a Tea Party activist threatening to take up arms if they don’t like the outcome of an election and he seemingly gets, at most, a rap on the wrist and on his way he goes. I’m not going to sit here and be an apologist for comments being made in any of these cases, I am questioning why when two different individuals make similar threats, they are treated so differently by authorities. Either you go in and detain individuals for making such stupid remarks based on concerns for the safety of others or you treat both as heated and regrettable rhetoric, dust off your hands and say these were just stupid comments made in the heat of the moment. Above all, I personally see it as a national security risk. If someone has malicious intent, all they have to do is align themselves with whatever ideology the authorities will turn a blind eye too and they’ll find a safe haven as they start potentially carrying out some life threatening plans.

It’s disturbing in and of itself when people start being detained in the US over certain comments made online that the government finds unfavourable, it’s even worse when there’s the appearance of authorities picking and choosing which ideologies to look at seriously whenever they start making threats either online or offline.

(Via /.)

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Drew Wilson
Drew Wilson is perhaps one of the more well-known file-sharing and technology news writers around. A journalist in the field since 2005, his work has had semi-regular appearances on social news websites and even occasional appearances on major news outlets as well. Drew founded freezenet.ca and still contributes to ZeroPaid. Twitter | Google Plus
quick_duck
quick_duck

"They did the same shit to me when I was 17." - delusional or what? quick, hide...

Nick Comeaux
Nick Comeaux

Shit man, he should thank his lucky stars they didn't NDAA him or send a drone strike to his house to "liberate" him.

Antonio
Antonio

I would ask for the 2 other incidents, the newsletter and the tea party activist, were they military? Also for the marine that was arrested, what was his position in the marines? I think if someone is in the military statements such as  “Sharpen my axe; I’m here to sever heads.” are a little more daunting than if someone isn't in the military, especially considering recent events such as what occurred at Fort Bragg and Fort Hood. Also I would ask if someone is a member of the military, do they give up certain rights to privacy anyways? And where was he accessing facebook, was it on a private computer or was it on a computer that belonged to the government? If the computer belonged to the government, then they have every right to monitor activity that occurs on it. Even if it was in the barracks, is there a right to privacy there or because the barracks and everything in them are considered government property, it's the same?

lvxvria666
lvxvria666

     They did the same shit to me when I was 17. They illegally broke into my bedroom, forced handcuffs on me, and sent me to a "psychiatric hospital for a mental health evaluation." They repeatedly did this to me several times. They had me illegally locked up in over 4 different "mental health" facilities on several occasions for varying amounts of time (on one occasion for over a month). I never violated any law. In fact I spent most of my time alone in my room on my computer. 

     I have been ambushed and attacked by mobs or hit squads of psychiatrists pretending to be "ordinary people" when I was in my late teens and early twenties. In every assault against my person (yes also physical assaults perpetrated by these psychiatrists in my own home) I was NEVER allowed legal representation or counsel. I have been FORCIBLY drugged and inoculated AGAINST MY WILL in several "hospitals" because this was supposedly "in accordance with procedure when brought in by police." 

     I have zero doubt that I am most likely under surveillance to this very day. I believe the only reason why they have slowly and gradually "left me alone" throughout these years is due to the influence of my dad whom has extensive knowledge of the "legal system." If the government had its way I would certainly be in prison right now and most likely dead right now. They threatened me with this many times. They have also threatened to outright kill me to my face and implied that if I did not "shut my fucking mouth" I would be killed by prison inmates. 

     I will never FORGET what they did to me. I will never forget how they ripped away over half of my life for no logical reason at all. If they simply do not "like" you or arbitrarily deem you as a "problem" for them you are subject to a tactically coordinated raid and series of assaults against your person wherever you may live. I consider the notion of "personal security and privacy" to be an utter joke. I have never had any "safety" or "security" because of them. They destroyed and illegally stole my life and property away from me when I was a young adult and nothing anyone may say or do will ever erase this irreparable harm that has been done to me. 

Antonio
Antonio

Some sort of context is missing here.







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