The fact is that no ISP likes p2p since it usually occupies great amount of bandwidth which usually means slower service for an average customer.
Some ISPs don't fit that generalization and
P2P doesn't have that effect on all of them.
care to explain this part?Originally Posted by Aaron_Walkhouse
Some ISPs are real networking companies instead of clients of same. These
networking companies have never stopped or paused investment in network
infrastructure because that is their primary business. As bandwidth needs
increased, those needs met infrastructure which was always well ahead of
demand and still had plenty of excess capacity.
Telus, for example, is fully populated with internet customers in one of
the most established and oldest internet services in the world yet has
so much available capacity that it has rolled out an internet TV service
with all the channels of a cable or satellite TV service, including a
generous selection of HDTV channels. After that they went on record as
stating that they are against traffic shaping in any way.
Cable internet started off as a secondary market which used rented
capacity from networks like AT&T or one of the other baby bells and never
had the option of increasing capacity even as they kept greedily adding
customers, pushing their bandwidth oversubscription far past reasonable
levels. Mix that in with a strong susceptibility to dogmatic copyright
extremism and a notorious general contempt of the customer and you get
traffic shaping in secret and discrimination against advanced customers
who use more bandwidth with P2P.
Networks that have continually invested in their infrastructure and whose
bandwidth capacity is a primary basis of their business have not suffered
any ill effects from P2P because they were never falling behind at any time.
I think you need to re-visit some of your basis of argument.Code:http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20069550-TELUS-blocking-P2P-ports
False alarm there. What you have there is a side-effect of port blocking by other
ISPs or just bad traffic conditions affecting the other people on the same torrent.
If Telus was blocking, the reports would have been of complete stops of downloads
instead of slowdowns.
Besides, Telus is far too advanced to use such a primitive technique. If they
wanted to stop or throttle torrents, changing ports would have had absolutely no
effect. They already said they were against it and they have proven themselves.
My ISP sends me free paper and Emails all the time... so I know they love me!
Hard as ever and here to make you people believe...as long as there is one person to hold hope and dream...A GOD...will never die!
that's funny because that what Comcast said when they went in front of FCC's hearing.
This time it was inexperienced users making a simple mistake, and no,
not all ISPs lie to regulators and the public. Some are actually not evil.
i've been with at least ten or more ISP's and they all suck. The inherent nature of any one of them is to introduce some form of traffic shaping to their service. Not sure how much your downloads amount but if you exceed some arbitrary cap, I am guessing that you'll join the majority. Unfortunately, I like to download a lot and had to revert to other methods to keep my addiction.
BTW, Aaron do you work for Telus since you're so protective of their image?
Im currently with a ISP in UK called Bethere.co.uk
I am a extremely heavy P2Per and operate a winmx cache from my home address. My up down ratio is usually around 300gig a month and i have a 10mb down 1.5mb up line. I have a ridiculous amount of tcp/udp requests requiring me to have proper hardware and my ISP doesn't throttle. All for a measly £25 a month. Paying that each month i feel like im robbing them. I moved to "be" after many years as a BT business customer paying around £50 till they brought out their throttling games. I spent 4 months putting up with peak time transfers throttling me down 35kbs at evening time. As you can imagine i voted with my feet and switched.
So with what i do id like to think that my ISP is P2P friendly and cheap and no throttling.
I'd say that you have a great deal. I just wish I could find one ISP and not be jumping around.:bigeyes:
No, I'm pretty much retired now. My dad used to work with them but that
was a long time ago and he passed away a few years after he retired.
I never did work for that company but it would have been nice before
they became Telus.
I was one of their first DSL customers back in the early 90s and never
had a problem, not even when I went over ten gigs in one day and a tech
called me up to make sure I wasn't infected with a worm.
Telus did establish a 100 G/mo. soft limit a few years ago but they just
ignored it, letting a bot send out friendly reminders to a few people who
exceeded it but never actually going further than that. I don't think
they're measuring bandwidth at all anymore.
If you're shopping for a good ISP which doesn't interfere with your usage
try broadbandreports.com and check on what people are saying about ISPs
available in your own neighborhood. Maybe you'll be lucky and find one.
Thanks for the info but you better check their current internet page. My range of total monthly d/l's is from 300GB to 450GB and I would be paying a lot if I was with Telus.
As I said earlier Telus is no different than Bell or Rogers or any other large ISP. And, they will not be getting a penny of my money either.
I'm not surprised you keep getting booted with that much usage, but Telus isn't
actually doing any extra billing and probably never will.
Next time try an ISP without obvious conflicts of interest like cable companies whose
primary business is TV broadcasting. At your levels you'd probably find a business
connection with a higher upload bandwidth more to your liking too.
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