the definitive: kazaa vs. winmx

**isus** · February 24th, 2003, 07:40 PM

a few rules:

do not argue about which is best.
post which you voted for (and not much else).
if you use something else, make another poll.

i want this to stay friendly, no arguing like in the other threads.

**Theinfamousone** · February 24th, 2003, 08:26 PM

For software, cracks, and hacks, TV shows, and popular items (movies and music), there is nothing faster than Kazaa. End of story.

For everything else there is BCDC++.

For all of you shouting "viruses", yes there is an occasional virus if you are a complete moron and download a video with a single source that is called "britney spears.vbs" and is 496KB. Actually nowadays there is so much antivirus filters built into Kazaa that they don't come that way anymore.

You can download pretty much any R rated and most PG-13 movie that came out in the last 5 years at 150KB/s or faster.

And I have downloaded more complete series of sci fi TV shows in a matter of days then you can shake a stick at.

Just try to get every episode of any TV show on Winmx or even DC, you'll be waiting a long long long time.

(I said this in the other Kazaa thread. But I like it so much I thought I would use it here too.)

**Psilaxs** · February 24th, 2003, 08:44 PM

KaZaA ++ ALL THE WAY

No 16 day long queues

**chipperrox** · February 24th, 2003, 08:51 PM

i just got sick of waiting in line on winmx

**Wolfie** · February 24th, 2003, 09:03 PM

I used to use winmx more but since it became queue city I am using kazaa more these days.

**Galileo** · February 24th, 2003, 09:19 PM

there is an occasional virus if you are a complete moron...
(I said this in the other Kazaa thread. But I like it so much I thought I would use it here too.)

Just the data. CLICK to see the worms and viruses that currently contain code to infect KaZaA and its users (including some specifically for KazaaLITE users. Note: These are Not all the viruses that infect Kazaa, these are *just* the ones that *specifically* infect KazaaLITe and Kazaa and its users.):

KAZAA: ==> http://sophos.com/search/index.cgi?...ish&terms=kazaa

Compare to Winmx: ==> http://sophos.com/search/index.cgi?...ish&terms=winmx

Compare to gnutella: ==> http://sophos.com/search/index.cgi?...&terms=gnutella

Compare to IRC: ==> http://sophos.com/search/index.cgi?...glish&terms=irc

The number infecting KazaaLITE/Kazaa is upwards of 40 now:

Example: "W32/Hantaner-A is a worm and virus which prepends itself to files found in the download folders of KaZaA and Internet Explorer. By infecting files in the KaZaA download folder W32/Hantaner-A may spread through peer-to-peer file sharing networks. "

1. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Blinkom-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32blinkoma.html

2. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Igloo-15
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32igloo15.html

3. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Benjamin-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32benjamina.html

4. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-D
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovad.html

5. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Kingdom-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32kingdoma.html

6. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Forlorn-D
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32forlornd.html

7. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovaa.html

8. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-E
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovae.html

9. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-B
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovab.html

10. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-F
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovaf.html

11. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Merkur-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32merkura.html

12. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Duload-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32duloada.html

13. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Surnova-C
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32surnovac.html

14. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Duload-C
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32duloadc.html

15. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Pepex-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32pepexa.html

16. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Gibe-D
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibed.html

17. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Lolol-D
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32lolold.html

18. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Lolol-C
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32lololc.html

19. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Lolol-B
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32lololb.html

20. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Oror-B
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32ororb.html

21. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Oror-K
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32orork.html

22. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Hantaner-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32hantanera.html

23. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Oror-L
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32ororl.html

24. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Lolol-E
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32lolole.html

25. Sophos virus analysis: VBS/Cian-C
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/vbscianc.html

26. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Lolol-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32lolola.html

27. Sophos virus analysis: W32/KWBot-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32kwbota.html

28. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Spear-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32speara.html

29. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Duni-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32dunia.html

30. New worm touts more unauthorised Catherine Zeta-Jones snaps, reveals Sophos Anti-Virus
New worm touts more unauthorised Catherine Zeta-Jones snaps, reveals Sophos Anti-Virus
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/zetajones.html

31. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Axam-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32axama.html

32. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Systro-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32systroa.html

33. Sophos virus analysis: PuppyLayer-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/puppylayera.html

34. Sophos virus analysis: Bat/Cyseq-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/batcyseqa.html

35. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Avril-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32avrila.html

36. New worm provides sad snapshot of virus writer psyche, says Sophos
New worm provides sad snapshot of virus writer psyche, says Sophos.
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/duload.html

37. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Avril-C
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32avrilc.html

38. Not all viruses are successful, however much they try..
Not all viruses are successful, however much they try..
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/dunia.html

39. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Oror-Fam
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32ororfam.html

40. Sophos virus analysis: W32/Appix-A
Sophos virus analysis
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32appixa.html

41. Virus articles
Virus articles
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/

42. Sophos virus analyses
View viruses by name - W
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/index_w.html

43. Sophos virus analyses
View viruses by type - Win32 worm
http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/index_w32worm.html

Yep. That would mean about 10% of 5million, or about a half million morons. lol.

**Theinfamousone** · February 24th, 2003, 09:29 PM

Oh not this again.

**Sockfulloflove** · February 24th, 2003, 09:36 PM

FT just because of winmx's queues.

**Wolfie** · February 24th, 2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by isus
a few rules:

do not argue about which is best.
post which you voted for (and not much else).
if you use something else, make another poll.

i want this to stay friendly, no arguing like in the other threads.

I guess that whole no argument thing went down the drain. Big suprise.....:mellow

**bobhss** · February 24th, 2003, 09:49 PM

Kazaa Lite ++ finds me everything I look for. I checked out WinMX once, looked at it it's interface and determined it wasn't for me.

**Siskabush** · February 24th, 2003, 10:11 PM

I loved WinMX's incredible speed, and vast search results.

But then came the loooooooooooooong queues, and kinda turned me away from the network for now.

The new WinMX is supposed to kill that autoenterqueue for more sources makin the queues shorter.

But until then, I am K++ all the way (with soulseek as backup for rare techno)

Using those 2 proggys, i can find anything.

**endersgame21** · February 24th, 2003, 10:28 PM

Like Theinfamousone said, it is real easy to stay away from viruses. Just look at what has the most sources and seems to be the right size. If you are looking for The Lord of the Rings, don't download the one that has only 1user and is only 264 Kb. Download the one that is 713,000 Kb and has 30 users or whatever.

**Galileo** · February 24th, 2003, 10:35 PM

Yes, the large one that has 713,000Kb is the virus. Since viruses can be any size, as you know.

And since viruses replicate and spread, it will have lots of users.