Crap-ware in XP?
I remember reading something about xp having some kind of crap-ware installed with it.I was wonderin what is it and is it possible to get out without hurting windows?:mellow
yep the crap is called "Internet Explorer", "Outlook Express", and "Messenger"
removing them doesn't hurt anything in the OS, it just hurts microsoft's data collection and future profitability
their executables can only be deleted in safe mode
crapware?? you mean the best browser, the best email program, and the best messenger system?Originally posted by notbob
yep the crap is called "Internet Explorer", "Outlook Express", and "Messenger"
removing them doesn't hurt anything in the OS, it just hurts microsoft's data collection and future profitability
their executables can only be deleted in safe mode
show me a company who doesnt participate in data collection, and i'll show you a company on the brink of failure
just because something is the default when you turn it on doesn't make it the best
outlook is the most unsafe and impractical way of getting email there is (why download all of the messages before you even read them?)
there is nothing that IE can do that even the crappiest free browser can't do (while taking up less space and not phoning home)
messenger? never used it, but i hated how it popped up anyway
use this program to get rid of all that
http://www.xp-antispy.de/
its mainly just automatic updating, and extra support crap which i doubt that most people who know what they are doing will need.
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Trick question. XP is crapware.
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Hehe, well guys.. Internet explorer is pretty good browser. I think the reason so many people hate it is because Microsoft made it. It's definatly one of the best browsers out there.. I used to work with Netscape, but I've began to dislike that browser...
About outlook: It is very unsafe, and it has a lot of dumb things in it. There are definatly better e-mail clients.
About messenger: It's pretty good. Cool interface. But the only reason they have so many users is that you can use it with your hotmail account. Otherwise, ICQ would be a lot more popular, because thats a very good program too. But the most popular messenger client will stay the most popular, because all of your friends are using that one...
You can remove messenger w/out harming IE. I read it in some magazine... Oh well, I can't find it. Anyway, it will ruin MSN Explorer & Outlook Express, but I don't think it hurts anything else.
IMHO, MSN is perfectly simple when used in conjunction with Trillian/Jabber/Telus IM etc . . .
I agree that Explorer and OE are crap, and that's why I use Mozilla. Does anyone out there use Phoenix? If so, how is it?
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easiest way to remove messanger is to go into the program files folder find a folder called "messanger" and rename it "messanger2" then no more messanger.. Select ok for any warnings that come up too..
If it ever comes back in future service packs or anything then do have to do it over again.
ok not all of ms's products are the "best", i know a simple way to stop msn messenger from loading when opening outlook express, go to your program files section of your harddrive and you should see a folder called 'messenger' just simply rename it, and it will never pop up when you open outlook express, or when you start windows. i mostly used open source based software because it is not owned by big corporations, and they wont screw you over with spyware and other shit.
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you know you should really give linux a try. you know the funny thing about the l2cache on the old pentium 2 really didnt give me the power to do the multimedia stuff that a guy like me wants to do.
i'm using linux right now, and i really don't see any difference at all!
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I choose Internet Explorer above all others. Netscape is ok. Opera doesn't work properly sometimes and contrary to its signature, its NOT the fastest browser on earth. Mozilla is ok. I haven't tried any others. I just like the way IE is setup, i'll stick with it until I find something better for me. As for Outlook Express, its shit. Messanger? Never used it.
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Why dont you just get a hammer and beat the hell out of it?
When you upgrade to service pack 1, you have the ability to NOT make them your defaults. And, you can uninstall Messenger, Outlook Express and Windows Media Player thru Add\Remove Programs. Tho you can't uninstall IE, you can use another browser as your defaut browser very simply.
The very kernal and heart of services in XP are chatty little bastards, and you need to lock it down as best you can with a firewall. Let's not play word games here, ALL browsers "talk" your data to the sites you visit. And, almost every software known to man collects and publishes data now. This is the world we live in.
As much as I support notbobs rational, even he nows that Linux isnt for everyone. And it is getting bigger and more bloated itself as time goes by. 1Gb to install Gnome and KDE? gimme a break.
You can try to hack up and reverse engineer the O/S, but for what? I see the answer to Juggalo15's question as more of a knowledge\empowerment issue. Learn WHAT the services are doing, and deal with them accordingly, or not.
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Krell is right when he says that its as much knowing what the programs do as it is anything else.
Personally, I like beating things with hammers, so let me say I am NOT impressed with XP, or Outlook Express, or MSM, or WMP, and they longer reside on my PC. IE, though, is still the most usable browser on this planet.
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