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    I just bought an expensive laptop - was it a $2500 mistake?

    Note that I have not yet booted up this laptop and I am not a gamer.

    The base price for this laptop is $1300. I paid $2500 for it because I'm a speed freak. No, I don't need a drug intervention, but thanks anyway, Dr. Drew :)

    I customized my brand new laptop for speed. I customized it for work and school projects....9 to 5 stuff. I'm a little schizo. Between 9 to 5 I'm a madman. Or maybe, thanks to genetics and coffee, I have a type A personality between 9 to 5. I'm all business between 9-5, The words "lighten up - take it easy" aren't in my vocabulary between 9-5. America was built with great men who possess the same demeanor. Christopher Columbus was addicted to coffee.

    All I know is that when I use the computer to work on a school or work project and I experience a slowdown or blockage, I go mad. I go nuts. I scream. I act like a racehorse who's stuck in quicksand. I have a little meltdown is what I'm saying.

    So that's why when I ordered this computer I told myself to emphasize speed, speed and more speed. So I built it with 8 gigs of RAM and a quad core processor. That is the main reason why it went from being a $1300 laptop to a $2500 laptop. (no desktop, thank you - I bought a laptop so I could get out of the house and work away from home 3 or 4 days a week).

    So did I make a mistake in ramping up a $1300 laptop to the tune of $2500?

    Before you answer that, you need to know what I'll be using it for: I'm going to build websites with Wordpress and Dreamweaver. I might be using several programs at once. Programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Flash. I might even have a web based video tutorial open when I'm using Photoshop or Dreamweaver. In a nutshell: I'll be using a lot of Adobe software.

    I'll note that there's no need to point out that I could've gotten far more for my money by buying a desktop. That's a given. That goes without saying. I already have a high performance desktop for work and school. I bought the laptop because I need a portable computer that is easy to transport, a computer that I can place in the back seat of my car, or carry on my back when I ride a bicycle or chopper to work or school.

    So now that you know all there is to know, don't hold back with your answer. If I made a mistake just say so. Or maybe I bought the perfect laptop, one that has the type of speed that a busy body like me can utilize? A laptop that'll handle anything a worker bee can throw at it 5 years down the road?

    Either way, tell me what you think, because I want THE TRUTH, and unlike Tom, I can handle the truth!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunandsurf View Post
    ...I am not a gamer. ....I paid $2500
    Yeah, it was a mistake. Laptops go for $500-$800 easily for the non-gamers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunandsurf View Post
    Before you answer that, you need to know what I'll be using it for: I'm going to build websites with Wordpress and Dreamweaver. I might be using several programs at once. Programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Flash. I might even have a web based video tutorial open when I'm using Photoshop or Dreamweaver. In a nutshell: I'll be using a lot of Adobe software.

    I'll note that there's no need to point out that I could've gotten far more for my money by buying a desktop. That's a given. That goes without saying. I already have a high performance desktop for work and school. I bought the laptop because I need a portable computer that is easy to transport, a computer that I can place in the back seat of my car, or carry on my back when I ride a bicycle or chopper to work or school.
    In that case, get a $500-$800 laptop, and then use the extra money to buy a desktop of equal or greater value for the extra stuff you do.
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    If I was going to spend that kind of money on a laptop for graphical work I would of gotten a tablet with a workstation video card. I'd also never get an 18inch screen if I was going to carry it around in a bag, that a huge thing to be lugging around. But that's me, I bought a 12.1" tablet because I wanted the tablet features and small size.

    If I was going to do some graphical work in photo shop, or possibly 3d rendering I'd probably get a workstation. For $2500 I would of gotten one of these
    http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/c...nu-id=products

    But really, for what you are doing I don't see why you need all that power. You only need the power if you are playing games, rendering video, editing high resolution images with multiple layers, or rendering 3d structures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Signa View Post
    Yeah, it was a mistake.
    What deems this aquisition a mistake? Please be specific by citing the flaw or flaws in technical terms. For instance, was customizing it with a quad core processor a mistake and if so, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_rage View Post



    If I was going to spend that kind of money on a laptop for graphical work I would of gotten a tablet with a workstation video card. I'd also never get an 18inch screen if I was going to carry it around in a bag, that a huge thing to be lugging around. But that's me, I bought a 12.1" tablet because I wanted the tablet features and small size.

    If I was going to do some graphical work in photo shop, or possibly 3d rendering I'd probably get a workstation. For $2500 I would of gotten one of these
    http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/c...nu-id=products
    I took a look at those Lenovo's and they look nice. Unfortunately, Costco doesn't sell Lenovo's. At this point in time there are too many upsides to buying a computer from Costco. And none of those upsides have anything to do with price.

    http://www.costco.com/Common/Categor...1||P_SignDesc1

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    Even though an $800 laptop could probably do what you want to do, it probably wouldn't last as long.... I hope.

    Hard to tell if $2500 was a mistake. If I were to spend that much on a computer, I'd build a desktop.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunandsurf View Post
    I took a look at those Lenovo's and they look nice. Unfortunately, Costco doesn't sell Lenovo's. At this point in time there are too many upsides to buying a computer from Costco. And none of those upsides have anything to do with price.

    http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84&N=4017 745&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=56670&Ns=P_Price|1||P_ SignDesc1
    Was pointing you to workstation systems, that are designed for graphical tasks. The video cards on a workstation machine are optimized for design tasks rather than gaming. In fact they perform like crap for games. If you have ever used some of the high end 3d rendering software you would be aware that many features can only be turned on with a workstation card. But again, chances are this is beyond what you need, much like the machine you purchased.

    Anyway all manufacturers have mobile workstations.

    Dell

    http://www.dell.com/content/products...=04&l=en&s=bsd

    HP
    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en...orkstations/b4
    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en...orkstations/b4
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    HUGE waste of money. I have computers 10 years old that would all those programs and not even burp. IN fact, I have a 10 year old pc with all 10 year old components and I can play SOF2 (video game) and run those programs at the same time.

    The only thing I would have upgraded on the PC would have been the memory and an solid state hard drive. If you would have added an solid state drive instead of the other mess your laptop would have been a lot better. Watch this video and then go kick your self in the nuts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9q9I4k8D7Y




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunandsurf View Post
    What deems this aquisition a mistake? Please be specific by citing the flaw or flaws in technical terms. For instance, was customizing it with a quad core processor a mistake and if so, why?
    It's more of the price-for-features than the specs of the machine. Nothing wrong with getting a quad core, but like I said before, you could spend the same amount of money, and have 2 computers dedicated to doing the specific tasks at hand. A single laptop isn't good for all those things you want to do. It WILL work, but a cheaper one would do 95% of the same stuff. It's like what Potato said, if you are second-guessing yourself...

    Really, I'm looking at building a new gaming machine for under a grand. You nearly tripled my cost, and have a drastically inferior machine.

    EDIT: Ok, not "drastic" but you would expect it to be on par, or at least ahead of the curve for that price. They probably would be pretty evenly matched in raw processing power, but the video card would still get beat. Not to mention the upgradeability of my PC over your laptop.
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    If the money's spend then just enjoy it and forget what anybody says about it.

    One thing, though. Get a power adapter for your car and keep the 110 volt adapter
    handy because the extras you added will eat up the battery time quickly.

    After looking at the specs, I'd say you got a good workhorse there.
    That screen is definitely not available on the cheap laptops and should
    prevent eyestrain on those long days on the job.

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    Still think for some people more expensive machines are justified, it just depends on the task you plan to complete. There is no reason an average user would need a $2000 rig. But having done some cad and video editing I can see the advantage of some workstation machines. But still, unless you are running a business and are guaranteed a return on the investment workstation machines are a little pricey. But if you want to render 3d video you need a workstation, hell it would take my desktop a week to render a 4 minute clip in Solidworks.
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    Sound production is actually another thing you can do that would soak up a lot of RAM and disc space. 3 Gigs of RAM on a Duo Core and it has a habit of using pretty much all of it by the time I get to the end of a fully functional tune. Mind you, I use a fair number of VSTs as well - the amount of RAM doing that can add up quickly.

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    not sure I understand your question? You've already spent $2500 on the laptop. If you've dressed the machine to the tune of an additional $1200 and you didn't have any monetary limits to push this boundary, why would it matter what anyone else thinks. It seems to me that you are well off with this purchase and not likely that you will be returning the laptop. Enjoy the new toy and perhaps consider getting a "rider" policy for the item.

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    I dont think it necessarily sounds like a waste of money. Mind you get a good warranty on the machine. The extra parts will generate heat that may not help with how long it lasts. I just picked up an LED dell studio xps which is a very nice laptop. Again probably more expensive than they need to be but its what I wanted.

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    Jeebus, my gaming desktop only ran me ~$400 for quad core and the works...

    I also agree you could have easily gotten away with under 1k for something that would run all you needed on a laptop. But then again, as said, you did future proof yourself very well, so instead of needing a new laptop in 1-2 years, you'll be set. Maybe need a new hard drive in a few years if it takes a lot of abuse.
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