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    Put Trust in Your Pocket

    Read this in the regional newspaper it sounded interesting. It was a two bit paragraph on new software tech. For more info I googled.

    I think this is pretty cool tech. What do you think ?? Could it be new age av software ???

    The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Reseach Organisation (CSIRO) has developed a transportable device to minimise the risk associated with performing transactions in untrusted and unknown computing environments.


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    First of all, read the following paragraph. Then, ask yourself how a company peddling a fancier form of DRM is supposed to be good for us?

    Who should your computer take its orders from? Most people think their computers should obey them, not obey someone else. With a plan they call “trusted computing”, large media corporations (including the movie companies and record companies), together with computer companies such as Microsoft and Intel, are planning to make your computer obey them instead of you. (Microsoft's version of this scheme is called “Palladium”.) Proprietary programs have included malicious features before, but this plan would make it universal.

    Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does; you can't study the source code, or change it. It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage. Microsoft has done this several times: one version of Windows was designed to report to Microsoft all the software on your hard disk; a recent “security” upgrade in Windows Media Player required users to agree to new restrictions. But Microsoft is not alone: the KaZaa music-sharing software is designed so that KaZaa's business partner can rent out the use of your computer to their clients. These malicious features are often secret, but even once you know about them it is hard to remove them, since you don't have the source code.

    In the past, these were isolated incidents. “Trusted computing” would make it pervasive. “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission.

    The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to. These programs will continually download new authorization rules through the Internet, and impose those rules automatically on your work. If you don't allow your computer to obtain the new rules periodically from the Internet, some capabilities will automatically cease to function.

    Of course, Hollywood and the record companies plan to use treacherous computing for “DRM” (Digital Restrictions Management), so that downloaded videos and music can be played only on one specified computer. Sharing will be entirely impossible, at least using the authorized files that you would get from those companies. You, the public, ought to have both the freedom and the ability to share these things. (I expect that someone will find a way to produce unencrypted versions, and to upload and share them, so DRM will not entirely succeed, but that is no excuse for the system.)

    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html

    Now skim through this: - http://www.eff.org/wp/trusted-comput...omise-and-risk


    SAY NO TO TRUSTED COMPUTING!




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    SSSSSSShhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttt !!!!

    That post wasn't I expecting.

    If that's all true, with third party control that's a breach of freedom in my books.

    The researchers of this TED (Trust Extension Device), CSIRO is fully funded by the Australian government.

    Does not take much though on what controls that the gov want on their people in the furture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krell View Post
    ... “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission.




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    Sounds like Vista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenaP View Post
    Sounds like Vista.
    I've got Vista. They say the best thing *cough* about Vista is the new security options.

    Then on the next microsoft os release in the furture will have these T.E.D. like operation on it for the unexpecting public ???

    We are all doooommmmm.

    I'll have to start learning mac os
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    Trusted computing isnt about MS or Apple or Linux, it's about the software and hardware that need key or token exchange. If we let it slide, then your video card on your PC will not talk to your monitor to play a HD movie etc.

    While open source might belay some of the effects, you will still be limited and your freedom lost to special interests and uncle sam. *insert government name here*


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    Thanks for the knowledge O great one.

    I'm starting to find out that the computer is or just as complex as the human body.

    I think, I stick to playing guitar, I'm off for a session and I think House just came on the idiot box.
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