Vista Sucks!

**Christoph** · April 8th, 2008, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by tokoloshe

Notice how with new pc's 3 gb ram is standard? That's because you need 1 gb to run the OS... So basically you are getting a new pc with 2 gigs of RAM.

Vista is using 600 MB from Start (Home Premium).
Im using a lot Avid.
If Avid needs more than 2,4 Gig, Vista gives him.
As I know Vista is loading a lot of things for making the experence faster. Better than empty ram. Don't you think?

At all, I had never Problems with Avid,Premiere,PhotoShop,AfterEffects etc.

**Evolver** · April 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM

Vista does suck...I recently bought a new hard drive and switched back to XP. I kept the hard drive with Vista because I am waiting for SP1 final to be released. I have heard that Microsoft plans on abandoning Vista and releasing Windows 7 in 2009 or 2010.

**Christoph** · April 8th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Evolver

I kept the hard drive with Vista because I am waiting for SP1 final to be released.

It was released March 18!Im using it.

I have heard that Microsoft plans on abandoning Vista and releasing Windows 7 in 2009 or 2010.

Microsoft wanted to publish Vista 3 years after XP... you saw what happend.

**wapazoid** · April 8th, 2008, 02:45 PM

My biggest complaint so far with Vista is networking. I've never had more problems sharing a few simple folders in my life. I have one machine acting as a server, with three password protected shared folders. For some bizarre reason, I could not tun off password protected sharing at all, and no programs were installed that would directly impact that function. Not a single machine on the network could gain access to those folders, no matter what permissions were set. A friend of mine came over the other day and started going crazy with the run command, trying to diagnose the issue. He got it to work, but like most admins I know, he was flying on that keyboard. My take on it: if average Joe has to resort to that much trouble over a very simple task, then MS has clearly failed to provide ease of use to their customers.

**tokoloshe** · April 8th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Yeah I am having problems with that too... I am trying to sahre the C drive on my Laptop(XP), with my desktop(Vista), and vista sees it, but when I try to map to it, vista asks for a password, but the laptop drive has permissions set to full control allow, so I don't know what password it want. also I am administrator on BOTH pcs, and I have not set any passwords on either of them, so what the hell is going on???

Very frustrating...

**Theinfamousone** · April 8th, 2008, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by tokoloshe

Yeah I am having problems with that too... I am trying to sahre the C drive on my Laptop(XP), with my desktop(Vista), and vista sees it, but when I try to map to it, vista asks for a password, but the laptop drive has permissions set to full control allow, so I don't know what password it want. also I am administrator on BOTH pcs, and I have not set any passwords on either of them, so what the hell is going on???

Very frustrating...

I know what you mean. I spent about an hour dealing with crap like that trying to connect my gf's computer to my windows xp computer. If any of you knew how easy it was to network with Leopard, you'd cry. When I go to school and connect to the school's internet, it automatically shows me every computer I have access to. It's nice, it's an easy way to download movies and music nearly instantly. I was even able to hack into some sensitive stuff at work, payroll and things like that ridiculously easily, mac, windows, everything. I love it.

**tokoloshe** · April 11th, 2008, 03:39 AM

Ok so I got my vista desktop to see my laptop, but everytime I reboot the desktop, it does not automatically reconnect to the laptop, I have to enter a password everytime, even though I selected remember password.... And my laptop doesn't even have a password. As for the laptop it sees the vista machine, but when I map network drive it says access denied. I hate the way windows says access denied, I am the administrator and omnipotent god of both machines, how dare windows deny me anything!!!!!

Very frustrating.... But other than networking, I can't say I have much to complain about with Vista... I'm just lucky that my 3GHZ dual core and 3 GB RAM can handle everything...

**mountain_rage** · June 8th, 2008, 10:14 PM

Came to this thread to see what the common issues are with Vista. I remember seeing so many complaints about it and was concerned when I did not seem to detect any of them. The installation was smooth, most drivers were already installed automatically, the ones that weren't were easy to find and install, it even seems more stable than the version of XP I have installed. Anyway, due to this odd behavior I came here to see what the issues were, just in case. So interestingly enough I don't have any of the problems yet. It seems that either the problems are mostly fixed now or I somehow lucked out with an extremely compatible machine. So other then the loads of ram it uses it seems to be working great. Might start to disable stuff to regain some ram, but I'll worry about that later.

The only thing that doesn't work is my 10 year old Happaugee TV tuner in media center, but it works in all other software. Dscaller even works when you run it in Windows XP mode, which surprised me because all forums said it didn't work. Does anyone know of a hidden area for tweaking media center to detect cards? Its not a big deal, didn't expect the card to be compatible, just would like to use it if it worked.

**Signa** · June 8th, 2008, 10:24 PM

well thats cool MR. ive been considering getting a new PC myself, and i probably will be putting vista on it. not excited about it, but if i can score a cheap copy of vista ultimate, i dont see the harm. ill still have this machine (minus the video card, ill just use my old one) to run XP if i need it for anything.

**w31n3r** · June 9th, 2008, 01:30 AM

i think i've said this before, but anything new is bound to get beaten. vista is actually pretty good IMHO, i haven't had any issues with it so far (early days yet), and i'm not exactly a casual user either. the initial complaints of it being a resource hog don't hold water anymore...hardware and especially RAM is cheap enough now, and i think they've got most of the bugs pinned down now. is it better than XP? after 3 service packs, XP may do better with some of our antiquated hardware.

@ MR:
Media Center=crap or thereabouts
Media Portal=slightly better than crap, but being a proponent of OSS you knew that. it's a quick fix, even if it is a memory hog!

but if you're in a mood for redmond, have you tried control panel>Admin Tools>Services>Windows Media Center Receiver Service> properties(right click)>log on>select local system account, apply, restart...and as with all things IT related, pray. assuming of course, that the correct drivers are installed and it's there in device manager...

**ratcat** · June 9th, 2008, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by mountain_rage

...... It seems that either the problems are mostly fixed now or I somehow lucked out with an extremely compatible machine.

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Yes and Yes

Originally Posted by mountain_rage

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So other then the loads of ram it uses it seems to be working great. Might start to disable stuff to regain some ram, but I'll worry about that later.

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As w31n3r has pointed that RAM is cheap now days, with my computer being laptop, I bought a 2 GB SD card its sole purpose as a readyboost device. Wish I did it sooner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 512MB to over 2GB memory.

With the complains I stated earlier in this thread. I changed my operating habits and the problems don't occur.

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**mountain_rage** · June 9th, 2008, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by w31n3r

@ MR:
Media Center=crap or thereabouts
Media Portal=slightly better than crap, but being a proponent of OSS you knew that. it's a quick fix, even if it is a memory hog!

but if you're in a mood for redmond, have you tried control panel>Admin Tools>Services>Windows Media Center Receiver Service> properties(right click)>log on>select local system account, apply, restart...and as with all things IT related, pray. assuming of course, that the correct drivers are installed and it's there in device manager...

Thanks for the tip, never expected to have to change anything in the services, sadly it still didn't work. Its not a big deal, just thought on the odd occasion I may have used it to record tv shows to my computer. Also thanks for reminding me of the open source alternative, I'll see how it works, had it in the past.

killahill · June 9th, 2008, 07:42 AM

I'll stick to ubuntu. :icon_pira

**mountain_rage** · June 9th, 2008, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by killahill

I'll stick to ubuntu. :icon_pira

My experience with Linux, Ubuntu included has not been all that great. There is definitely allot of potential for Linux to become a great operating system, but currently its too hard to use. The problem is due to the nature of its developement. With so many different developers its almost incoherent to navigate and change settings. Standards need to be made, the graphical interfaces streamlined and simplified, and they need better drivers. Eventually I think Linux will be a contender, but as it stands the general public will not adapt to it. Just my two cents.