Vista Sucks!

**Theinfamousone** · February 3rd, 2008, 07:53 PM

Hey, I just got a new HP Pavilion 2500se. 2 gigs RAM Intel Core 2 Duo 250 gig HD etc.

WINDOWS VISTA?!?!?!?!?!?

I honestly haven't seen a bigger joke of a piece of software Microsoft has EVER made. As much as that is saying, it is true. I am appauled that I have to Ctrl+Alt+Del every time I use it (and of course it still takes about 3 minutes on average for the task manager to close the not responding program). Vista is a year old. I honestly can't believe this thing is actually on the market. It is an absolute joke. I'll go to rename files and the folder that the file is in will stop responding. It takes me 15 seconds to open up My Documents. I also bought a brand new Macbook Pro at the same time (ok truth be told someone offered me their new HP Pavilion for my 2 year old Powerbook G4 and I took him up on it right after I had bought the Macbook Pro) comparing Leopard to Vista is like comparing a nice back massage by a hot girl to getting shot in the balls in the batting cages. The Mac commercials are not making that stuff up. I want you guys to know that I never once had to reformat my old Powerbook, and I highly doubt I'll ever have to reformat my Macbook Pro. Trying to get the webcam working on my HP took about 5 hours last night by the time I finally found the drivers and AIM and Yahoo Messenger wouldn't work, the only one I've gotten it working with is Skype.

I installed Windows XP SP2 on my Macbook Pro and the webcam worked no problem in either OS.

So I went to install Windows XP SP2 on my HP and it wouldn't recognize my hard drive (apparently it has no SATA drivers or something) so I had to slipstream the drivers, but who wants to go through all this hassle. Windows is one frustration after another.

Ok, I just thought I'd tell you guys that and see if it's just me experiencing ineptitude with Vista or if that's pretty common.

**cheapprick** · February 3rd, 2008, 08:47 PM

From the few hours I have in on it, I'd agree completely.

**RACKnRAIL** · February 3rd, 2008, 08:51 PM

I hated it too. If you're going to use it there are some tweaks you can make.

After a week I updated to XP.

**mp3MaStA88** · February 3rd, 2008, 09:44 PM

when i tried to downgrade from vista to xp i was unable to do a lot of stuff. my sound didnt work. my built in wireless internet card was not detected. my graphics card was detected but i had lost more than half the options. seriously im thinking bout just wasting my time trying to get osx86 to work on my amd laptop. i just gotta wait for zephyroth's 10.5.2 rev 1 to be released and i'll be all good.

good news is. im running 10.4.8 on my westerndigital external hard drive with full compatability with my laptop. sound, internet, video card and all software works.

**Boomer The Dog** · February 3rd, 2008, 10:39 PM

mp3MaStA88, I think I know what you mean, those are motherboard driver packs that deal with the on-board sound, network, and graphics.

The good news is, you should be able to get that former Vista machine fully working with XP. What you don't do is go to the manufacturer's site for the computer model, for example if it's HP, don't go there, it will just show Vista drivers.

What you do is find driver packs for the motherboard model that's in the machine instead, from the board's manufacturer. Do a search on your computer model, then put in 'motherboard' after it. For example:

HP Pavilion 2500se motherboard.

That should bring up some forums or other info manufacturer and model of the board. Then search the board model, with motherboard drivers or mainboard drivers, or go the the maker's site and find them.

Also it's not that hard to slipstream the SATA drivers, get nLite and your XP CD, and you can do it from there, and it will make an ISO for you to burn.

**Excrement_Cranium** · February 3rd, 2008, 10:49 PM

The statement from my friend/co-worker and sad, pathetic microsoft groupie:

Vista is next gen, it's not broken, it's just that current software is too outdated for it.

His attempt to justify:

It's like running programs from 8-bit computing on 16-bit systems, it's just too fast.

I think he has a subscription to MS marketing rags... he drinks every drop of shit they spit out.

**Boomer The Dog** · February 3rd, 2008, 11:24 PM

I look at Microsoft like they are a band or a movie producer, they want to have a hit software that everyone is going to think is the best and run out and buy it. There's lots of hype, but no one can predict if they will have a hit or not.

They stick to their confidence in it, it's the best yet, new, easy, secure, but is it really a hit? That would be like a band putting out albums and every one tops the charts, or every movie from a certain producer has to be a blockbuster, it just doesn't happen.

Windows has been around for something like 20 years now, and has been a hit for the last 10, and it's possible that it could be on the downward turn.

**ratcat** · February 4th, 2008, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Theinfamousone

Hey, I just got a new HP Pavilion 2500se. 2 gigs RAM Intel Core 2 Duo 250 gig HD etc.

WINDOWS VISTA?!?!?!?!?!?

I honestly haven't seen a bigger joke of a piece of software Microsoft .........................

Ok, I just thought I'd tell you guys that and see if it's just me experiencing ineptitude with Vista or if that's pretty common.

Vista is unstable. Even after the first SP has been released.

My version is Home Basic w/Office 2007 on a Toshiba Satellie Pro laptop and it sux. Sick of app not responding. Double click on a file then get a error saying do you have the right path file ?, then double click on it the second time and it works. wtf. That's just some of the problems I have to deal with.

But.........

What's confusing at work is at they have Vista Home Premuim w/no add ons running on Dell's and its great. They run like a puter should.

At the moment I can't work this one out

**baksteen** · February 4th, 2008, 02:39 AM

is there anyway you can like buy a new computer with xp installed? is that an option?

**Boomer The Dog** · February 4th, 2008, 02:49 AM

Newegg had some computers with XP, and Dell was selling systems with XP as an option, something you would tell them that you want when you order it.

I think the chances are good that you can find an XP computer lots of places because of folks being unsatisfied with Vista. Just don't try to find it on retail shelves at a big box store. If you like to buy in your neighborhood, try a small computer store, they understand, and might have XP machines.

**ratcat** · February 4th, 2008, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer The Dog

Newegg had some computers with XP, and Dell was selling systems with XP as an option, something you would tell them that you want when you order it.

Yes you can. I've done it, six months after I brough my junk. Needed a new computer due to the main computer at the P.O.S. desk. the hard drive was failing.

Ask for XP Pro. Off memory no extra charge.

**Mavol** · February 5th, 2008, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer The Dog

Newegg had some computers with XP, and Dell was selling systems with XP as an option, something you would tell them that you want when you order it.

Call the sales desk at Dell. Just ask for XP and they'll ship the pc with XP instead of Vista.

**-0-BACKLASH-0-** · February 5th, 2008, 10:07 AM

u have to pay extra for xp to be installed over vista, which sucks.

**Theinfamousone** · February 5th, 2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ratcat

Vista is unstable. Even after the first SP has been released.

My version is Home Basic w/Office 2007 on a Toshiba Satellie Pro laptop and it sux. Sick of app not responding. Double click on a file then get a error saying do you have the right path file ?, then double click on it the second time and it works. wtf. That's just some of the problems I have to deal with.

But.........

What's confusing at work is at they have Vista Home Premuim w/no add ons running on Dell's and its great. They run like a puter should.

At the moment I can't work this one out

I know I have some at work that they work fine on. Those are the exact dumb things I have to deal with too. I'll be connected to the internet and for no reason it will try connecting to different wireless network. It took me 20 minutes to find how to disable/enable LAN connections.