Gnutella for private network

[Kewbase]

I am looking for a Gnutellaclient that can be used for setting up a private network by a special handshake and that combines this with

a) swarmed downloading
b) magnetlinks

Is there a client that has all these features?

[pinku]

hi kewbase well custom hanshake option is not available in any clients.....i mean where u can type in a handshake and it changes.....

But if u want to develop a client of ur own then u might want to lookup GnucDNA it provides the entire network functionality and the network name is customizable.....but i dont know if it supports magnet links yet???

If ur more specific why u need this maybe i can be more specific to what extent it is possible....

[Kewbase]

Pinku,

I know for sure that there are clients with an adjustable handshake.

Bad Blue and Toad Node for instance but they lack the other features.

Thanks anyway.

[pinku]

is it for being used on the net or just in a private lan...

Coz if u want to use it private lan then GnucLAN can be used without neceesity of any servers but magnetlinks support i dont know....

But if u can setup a http server which will be 24/7 up then shareaza is great.....I changed it's installer in a crude way to customize it for our LAN.... now we have nearly 1000+ node gnut network in our campus... :D

[goweropolis]

I'm with you KewBase. I have been experimenting with trying to create a private file sharing network to replace my FTP server. I tried Shareaza, eMule, Phex, and finally DC++. I've settled on DC++ (with ODCH as the hub program). The major benefits of DC++ are user browsing, easy chatting, and having usernames/password to prevent unauthorized users from jumping on the hub. Unfortunately, DC++ doesn't have multisource downloads or magnetlinks. Maybe one day... if a Gnutella program doesn't beat them to it first!

[Nothingface5384]

well xs u can set up and run your own hub...private network...multisource and swarmed are two of the future implementations for the project but it does use a link system..crc://...its still alpha..almost out..but u can check back to it every now and then for referance...it'll eventualy have those features sooner or later ;)
http://www.xs.fasthost.tv/

P.S. you can try it out for the hell of it...its quiet stable:D..like i said something to look back to in the future.
BTW i dont know of any gnet clients that do that..but maby give filetopia a go...

[Kewbase]

OK Goweropolis,

You understand what I and looking for. I agree that the DC++ hubs are great for browsing files of other users, but such a hub needs one user who is 24/7 on line. This system is quite vulnerable

A gnutella like private network can be kept up far easier. A private network will be scattered with duplicate files so swarmed downloading will bring fast downloads and less upload traffic for individual suppliers of the files.
An x-magnet or similar link feature can help to control the quality of the files that are shared.

I will keep on experimenting and let you know as soon as I have found something interesting. If you have any luck please pm me.

[crackerjacker]

heh, if your running a private hub, it cant be vulnerable because ip address wil be hidden, and u would be only allowing certain individuals *friends* into your hub.
is what it comes down too


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heh nf, i got u and understood what u were saying.
laters
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[gorphon]

very true cj, not to mention no_ip.org and dns2go.... itd actually almost surely be less vulnerable than running a fsp for personal use. happy thanksgiving lisa...

[Nothingface5384]

last itme i rember using filetopia u dont need some1 to be on 24 7 to run a hub..any user from your provate network can open it up..ir atkeast the admins can like i said chaeck that out;)

[Sephiroth]

What your asking is allready in gnutella.. So id use that.. If you want to create your own network then you should do that. I dont see why you would want to create a gnutella copy network at all.. Becuase unless you can get alot of people to stay online and run a host cache its not going to work. A small gnutella network is not easier to upkeep and theres no point in doing this because IMHO its more trouble than its worth.

[goweropolis]

@Nothingface5384: Thanks for the tip. Since DC++ is working fairly well for me right now, I didn't try out your program because it's in alpha. Keep Zeropaid informed though because if you manage to get multisource downloading working, I'd love to try it.

I donwloaded Filetopia and looked at it, but I couldn't understand how to set up a private network. Also, it seems overly complicated for what my users want to do.

@Kewbase: I agree that a single serving hub is vulnerable to problems. In my case though, I keep my computer on 24/7, running XP is quite stable, and ODCH (not the latest service version, but the version before that) takes very few resources.

I envision a Gnutella-based private network working this way: having three or more users agree to stay online for extended periods of time, those users could be the hubs or superpeers. When a user signs onto to the network, they would check those three hubs/superpeers and would be connected to the network. This method would ensure that even if one of the hubs/superpeers were absent, the file sharing network could continue.

The major drawback to this is that there is no authorization to access the network. ODCH allows you to list authorized users (with passwords), and only allow authorized users to access the network. This prevented anyone from joining without explicit permission from myself.

Right now the most ideal situation would be if ODCH or DC++ added multisource downloading, or eDonkey released a server which allows the creation of users (with passwords) because I think the eMule client is a great program.

Let's try and keep any future changes on this thread, so we can figure this out. Cheers.

[goweropolis]

I thought I'd just add some more commentary here to keep this thread alive and to provide some additional info.

I asked the creator of Open Direct Connect Hub (ODCH) whether implementing multisource downloading was possible. His response was:

all suggestions you´ve made would be amazing features - but they only can be implemented on redo the whole dc-protocol. And the problem is, that all common dc-clients wouldn´t be able to share those networks having the discussed features. Thats why i dont think, that most of the hub-owners would like to use this peace of software, if it is implemented.

You can look at the thread here.

As you can see I suggested combining forces with DC++ for a superior server/client combo, but (like Gnutella 2) this might make some people unhappy. Man I wish I could write code! :mellow

[Nothingface5384]

/me must represent xs well..i swear every 1 thinks its my prog lol
just to let u know meth is the developer - i'm just an alpha/beta tester:D
dc++ and kaola dc are cool direct connect clones...gui us most likely less complex then the original client ;)