It is supposed to be released Aug. 31, 2007. I like Rob Zombies films and all....but I very much doubt that even HE could make the original any better than what John Carpenter did.
Another thing that puzzles me...is that Rob Zombie has said in interviews that he simply does NOT like to "re-make" a film. He said there was no point because you could never do better than the original. And I think he is absolutely correct!
The "new" "texas chainsaw massacare" never could beat the original. Even though I thought it was very well done.
Yet, he has chose "Halloween" to remake? What gives?
I sometimes wonder WHERE the "originality" went in hollywood and music. It seems that 2000-2009 will probably be known as the decade of "re-makes" as far as entertainment goes!
I am kinda suprised by this, because this guy has produced such films like "house of 1000 corpses"...which is a great take on old 70's slasher flicks..without copying somebody else's ideas! It was original in itself.
To me, the only REAL original horror film I have seen...is the "SAW" series!
So I am really suprised he chose to re-make such a well known movie. He should know that a lot of people will be judging this with the original...even though he says there is something there for everyone...including fans of the original film. I really wonder about that....here is the trailer:
http://www.movieweb.com/video/V07D79lrpZ5uzt
Yeah, other movie forums I visit have been going ape shit over this movie but ive been saying for months that its a bad movie for Rob. After the kick ass Devils Rejects he should have stuck to writing his own shit. Im sure this was an easy paycheck but this series is simply overdone. IMO the first two were okay but after that it was awful.
Im not a fan of remakes, but there are some films that do need to be remade. Ones that had some tech aspect that couldnt be done the first time. Stories have always been retold. Movies are no different. Sometimes stories can be told better by a different director. There are plenty of films that are not remakes but its easy to focus on the ones that are if you let it bother you. Its no big deal. If you dont want to see a story retold then ignore it. No one forces people to go see these films.
Good stories will always be recycled, sometimes even bad one such as this one. Good horror films are always few and far between. 28 days later is the best thing to come along in years. The follow up was okay but not as good as the first. Snyders Dawn of the Dead remake was way better than people gave it credit for. Land of the Dead was simply awsome. I even enjoyed Cabin Fever in a comic kinda way. The fist two Final Destinations were good concepts and the horror comedy Idle Hands was cool. Ed and his dead mother is one of my favorite comedy/horror films. Shit, I get started on horror I could talk all day. Oh yeah, Bubba-Ho-Tep!
Hard as ever and here to make you people believe...as long as there is one person to hold hope and dream...A GOD...will never die!
Rob Zombie rocks....
I loved Cabin Fever. It was just so gleefully twisted. I was expecting huge things from Eli Roth. And then he came along with Hostel. What a let down. Hostel sucked.Originally Posted by Mels_Smileys45
And yeah, Bubba Ho Tep was fucking brilliant! I'm counting the minutes until the sequel comes out.
I expect very good things from a Zombified Halloween. 1000 corpses was good, but it dragged on a little long and lost some focus. Devils rejects was a lot tighter. Imo, he's getting better as he goes along. Halloween should be yet another level.
Knowing his work, I have no doubt that it will be a completely different animal than all the other Halloweens. You can't get any more appleish and orangeish than Rob Zombie and John Carpenter. Rob Zombie could never produce a masterpiece like The Thing and Carpenter could never dream up the aberrant shit that dwells in Zombies brain. To compare them would be just plain silly.
Mels, what did you like so much about Land of the Dead? It got such poor reviews I passed over it but if you can sell me on it, I might give it a shot (don't give away any plot details, plz.)
Well I HOPE you guys are right about it being different! Though with halloween, I don't know that it can be done any better than the original. Just my opinion.
I liked the devils rejects also, I just think it is kind of a "snapshot" as to the lacking originality...Today, I found this article on the FRONT PAGE OF CNN.COM...
"Feedback The new canon: AC/DC, Metallica stay strong"
NEW YORK (AP) -- Much of the rock 'n' roll and pop canon is well established.
AC/DC's "Back in Black" sold 440,000 copies last year -- a good showing by any measure, great for a 27-year-old work.
1 of 3 more photos » Buying the albums of '60s and '70s acts like the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Marley is akin to a rite of passage for any young music fan. These are the artists that baby boomers love to keep buying, and with whom seemingly every teenager at some point experiments. (Remember A.J. hearing Bob Dylan for the first time in the "Sopranos" finale?)
Now that the '80s and '90s are ancient history, what albums are people still buying from those decades? Do critical favorites like Radiohead and the Pixies grow more popular with time? Or do the Backstreet Boys and Madonna still rule the charts?
The short answer is that, above all, people are buying vintage Metallica, AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Guns 'N Roses and, well, Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
AC/DC's "Back in Black" (1980) last year sold 440,000 copies and has thus far sold 156,000 this year, according to the Nielsen SoundScan catalog charts, which measure how well physical albums older than two years old are selling. (All figures for this article were provided by Nielsen SoundScan.) Gallery: The new classics »
Those "Back in Black" numbers would make most contemporary CDs a success. Metallica's self-titled 1991 album is altogether the second-biggest selling album of the Nielsen SoundScan era, which began in 1991. "Metallica" sold 275,000 copies last year.
Bon Jovi's greatest-hits collection "Cross Road" last year sold 324,000 copies, while Guns N' Roses "Appetite for Destruction" (1987) sold 113,000. The Trans-Siberian Orchestra's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" (1996) continues to be a holiday favorite; it was bought 289,000 times last year.
Greatest-hits compilations are counted as catalog releases, and account for the majority of vintage best-sellers. Artists that commercially peaked in the '80s or '90s that have had lucrative best-of collections include Garth Brooks, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tim McGraw, Creed, Queen, Tom Petty, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Def Leppard, Aerosmith and Lionel Richie.
U2, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, Celine Dion, Eric Clapton, Elton John, Dave Matthews Band and the ever-touring Jimmy Buffett also all continue to sell large amounts of old records.
Michael Jackson, of course, still has one of the most desirable back catalogs. His best-selling "Thriller" moves over 60,000 copies a year and his "Number Ones" collection yielded 162,000 sales last year.
Avid fans may be buying everything their favorite artist puts out, but there's more than nostalgia fueling vintage sales.
"Young fans aren't excluded from catalog sales -- especially the ones who really get interested in music, there's always that sense of discovery," says Geoff Mayfield, the director of charts at Billboard Magazine.
Not everything maintains long-term success. Asia's self-titled 1982 album was the biggest seller of 1982, but only sold 5,000 copies last year. Whitney Houston's 1985 debut, also self-titled, was 1986's top album, but now sells about 7,000 discs a year.
The same trajectory has befallen past mega-hits like Ace of Base's "The Sign," Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel" and the Spice Girl's "Spice." Though one of the best selling artists of all time, Mariah Carey's self-titled debut sold a measly 5,000 copies last year. The Backstreet Boys' "Millennium" managed only 9,000 sales.
Alas, the turning wheel of fortune isn't always kind to boy bands.
"The only thing that kept coming to mind to me was that line in the Bruce Springsteen song: 'Someday we'll look back at this and it will all seem funny,' " recalls Rolling Stone senior editor David Fricke.
Now, some critical hits that were trounced on their initial release by the likes of 'N Sync can claim a measure of commercial superiority. The Flaming Lips' "The Soft Bulletin," often hailed as one of the best albums of the '90s by critics, sold a solid 38,000 copies last year.
Radiohead's legendary "OK Computer," currently celebrating its 10-year anniversary, last year sold 94,000 copies. Nirvana's "Nevermind" has done even better; it sold 143,000 copies in 2006.
Current events can alter the charts. When Ray Charles died, his older albums spiked for months, says Mayfield. A new album from Alanis Morissette would surely increase sales of her 1995 disc "Jagged Little Pill," one of the best selling albums of the past 20 years.
Likewise, recent reunions of the Police and Genesis can be expected to increase sales of their catalogs. The Police's 1986 compilation "Every Breath You Take" has already doubled its already strong 2006 sales by selling 107,000 copies so far this year. (A new compilation was recently released as well.)
Many well-regarded albums continue to do healthy business, including: U2's "Joshua Tree," Dr. Dre's "The Chronic," Beck's "Odelay," Wu-Tang Clan's "Enter the Wu-Tang," the Clash's "London Calling," Weezer's "Weezer," and the Pixies' "Doolittle." Each sold at least 20,000 copies last year.
Still, many albums that are consistently revered on critic top-ten lists of the '80s and '90s have not sold much. Joy Division's "Closer," the Smiths' "The Queen is Dead," My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless," and R.E.M.'s "Murmur" all sold 12,000 copies or less last year.
Labels often reissue classic releases to capitalize on the devotion of die-hard fans and to attract a new audience. In the past few years, revered indie label Matador Records has released Pavement's first three albums, including "Slanted and Enchanted," a disc frequently ranked among the best in the '90s.
"It's almost like a new release for us," says Matador founder Chris Lombardi. "We probably sold in a one-year period, pretty much what those records sold in their first year period when they were initially released."
Though hip-hop continues to rule today's charts, many of its most historic albums don't enjoy the catalog sales that those from rock's heyday do. Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back" sold 15,000 copies last year; Beastie Boys' "Paul's Boutique" sold 22,000; and Run-DMC's "Raising Hell" sold far less than both.
So far this year, catalog sales are down 11.7 percent, but that's stronger than overall sales, which are down 14.7 percent, according to Billboard. It's a major portion of the music business. This year's total catalog sales of 95.6 million copies accounts for about 40 percent of all albums sold physically.
When people switched from cassette tapes to compact discs, catalog sales received a windfall as people re-bought their collections. The onset of digital downloading hasn't had that affect because CDs can easily be downloaded to your iPod, but digital stores do have the advantage of unlimited (virtual) store space to sell older music.
The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) has pegged catalog downloads as 64 percent of all download sales in the U.S. (Apple declined to share its iTunes data on catalog sales.)
That still leaves illegal downloads unaccounted for, as well as a more important quantity: cultural impact. Though bands like Sonic Youth, the Ramones and Public Enemy may never sell as much as other acts, their influence remains immeasurable.
"Impact is not strictly about sales," says Fricke. "Otherwise everyone would be running around forming bands that sound exactly like Poison." E-mail to a friend
GOOD GRIEF! I was listening to AC/DC and "back in black" when it was first released in high school! Just goes to show you how bad it is getting as far as creativity!
Could hip-hop be leading the way in music file sharing? I have no doubt that the beastie boys are taking a huge hit.
I doubt that hip hop is leading the way in anything, but I could be wrong.
Maybe I'm letting my own penchant for hip hop color my perspective :)
Wow. Really love where this thread went.
17 USC § 1008 Prohibition on certain infringement actions:
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the noncommercial use by a consumer for making digital musical or analog musical recordings.
Yeah, we went al the way to "hip -hop"and bad movies and music....can't get better than that...LOL!
Does it surprise you that a horror movie gets bad reviews? I say go rent it now (wink)! Its Romero man! If that doesnt sell you on it then nothing else I can say will. Its one of the best true zombie movies made in many years. Also it has a 6.6 rating on IMDB. Thats really good for a horror film. There seems to be a split amoung Romero fans. Either fans are completly apeshit over it or they totally hate it and think its stupid. I had a good time watching it and will always watch any Romero film no matter what anyone else says. Now go download that shit!
I loved Cabin Fever. It was just so gleefully twisted. I was expecting huge things from Eli Roth. And then he came along with Hostel. What a let down. Hostel sucked.
Im glad someone else agrees with me on this one. Why people loved this movie is beyond me. I mean, it was okay but I think Cabin was miles ahead if that crap. "Oh, thats for the Ni**ers". That line and waiting the whole movie for the pay off was great writing. Too funny!
Did you like the "Dawn of the Dead" remake? I loved that one too. I never imagined it could be so well done and then Snyder went on to do "300", he is the MAN! Wathmen is his next project on is the movie Im most excited about even though it wont happen for a longgggg time.
Hard as ever and here to make you people believe...as long as there is one person to hold hope and dream...A GOD...will never die!
Okay, I'll give land of the dead a shot :)
why not....
Okay, it took me a few weeks, but I finally got around to seeing Land of the Dead.
I was... impressed. It wasn't like the best movie I had ever seen, but it was definitely a lot of fun.
SPOILERS AHEAD
A zombie good guy that learns how to adapt and sticks it to the man. That's just brilliant. Leguizamo was his usual excellent as was Simon Baker. I don't think Dennis Hopper will ever top the performances he gave in True Romance and Blue Velvet, but, for the work he's done lately, this was pretty darn good. He definitely had me chuckling a few times.
Good stuff. I found it to have a strong Escape from New York vibe (another fun flick).
Thanks Mels!!!!
this movie is pretty decent,saw the screener ,will prolly go to movies 2 see it as well
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