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Do you think rape victims should be allowed an abortion ? I would have thought any half-civilised person would oppose the idea of a rape victim being traumatised twice over by having the state force her to become a brood mare for her attacker.
But republican presidential candidate Sam Brownback disagrees. He says:
"Rape is terrible. Rape is awful, but rape victims' rights come secondary to those of an unborn child. Is (rape) made any better by killing an innocent child? Does it solve the problem for the woman that's been raped? We need to protect innocent life. Period"
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What do you think ? Should women be allowed to choose whether to carry the child of a man who raped them, or is the right to life a card that trumps all ?
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No offense but who's Sam Brownback and why should I care what he thinks. It's not like he's going to win or anything.
Unless he plays the lottery at which point he has better odds of winning that, then the Presidency.
He is a republican presidential nominee, or didn't you read the post?
There's no reason why you should care what he thinks, so if you don't, just pass on through...
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I voted yes.
And since that's taking a life I say take a few more. When/if the rapist gets an STD from the person raped, I think they should be denied any curative drugs. Throw them in prison and let the wonders of contagion do its business.
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sure, just not at taxpayer expense.
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All women should have the right to choose. Every trimester, every circumstance.
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You would think that this wouldn't even be a topic for debate, that it was a no-brainer. But no, there are still those who would deny abortions to rape victims or to women whose health is at risk (for example http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6470403.stm).
As others have noted, it's not hard to imagine that abortion laws would be different if it was men who got pregnant.
I think all of you are ignoring the fundamental role that pregnancies from rape have played in the survival of our species.
Terrible sense of humor aside, I think abortion is murder...
Every trimester, every circumstance.
At what point is the fetus considered a child?rape victims' rights come secondary to those of an unborn child
I believe that after a certain point in pregnancy, abortion is completely unethical.
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Yes, but it's still murder of an innocent life. I don't see why the unborn baby should suffer because the father is a rapist and the mother has been victimized. But the bottom line is that the mother definitely has the right to say what happens with her own body.
Men shouldn't even be allowed an opinion on the topic of abortion.
I have no idea, Its a hard choice that Im glad I will never have to face. If it was done early I see no problem but after the baby is alive I myself would not be able to punish an innocent life for the sins of the father or the mistake of the mother. I cant bring myself to kill a spider even.
I think about it like this: In the third trimester it would be the very same thing if the mother waited until the baby was born and then cut its head off. No difference at all. Would you let the mother kill her new born rape baby or kill the baby the day before it was to be born? Just because a baby is not born yet does not mean they are not living human beings. Is it the childs fault its father was a bastard? Why would the mother wait so long before solving her "problem" when it could be handled right away? Tie the newborn up and ram a clothshanger up its nose till its dead. Problem solved. No fuss no muss. What do you think is worse, rape or murder?
Just because you cant see the murder take place doesnt mean it didnt happen. There is no reason to wait until its a fully formed being before taking action. If the mother waits that long maybe she should just kill herself and take care of two birds with one bullet.
Don't get it twisted....
Im pro choice but with-in limits. 6 months is plenty of time to figure out a solution. Waiting any longer is cruel and irresponsible.
Hell, an unborn baby can't scream and it can't even vote so screw it eh? Im surprised anyone even cares at all.
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Yes.
It should be standard practice in post-rape examinations to offer an emergency contraceptive, or "morning-after pill."
Since my mother nearly died due to old abortion laws, I am completely against them, as they are almost always completely ignorant.
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In Talmudic law, a fetus is not considered an independent living creature until one shoulder is visible and it has taken its first breath outside of the womb.
edit: I should add, this is going from memory of what I was taught years ago. Additionally, it was only considered acceptable to abort a pregnancy (at any point) if taking it to term would put the mother's life in jeopardy.
While I can not bring myself to accept that extreme I do believe in a woman's right to choose predicated by the belief that such a choice should never be made cavalierly.
Well, I'm not a big fan of abortion, but in this case, I wouldn't want any woman to raise a child with whom every single moment she spends with him/her reminds her of one of the worst times of her life. Its just not right.
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