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    Shareaza is bad but great?

    I like that Saheraza is free, I like that it do not contain any spyware och ads. But the hits is realy bad.
    My search on "divx" gave 64 hits and 40 of them was junk like short porno clips and other crap and 3 incomplete files i Matrix.

    I did find a way to block some by typing "!xxx !porn !gay !lolita !striptease !bondage !anal !fuck !pussy !hardcore" but still just junk. I do not find any quick options for "Do not display files less than ###Mb" och "Do not show incomplete files"

    In Direct Connect can you find HUBs with 500 users sharing 23Tb but wit ShareAzA has I never seen more than 1Tb
    With KazaA lite 2.0.0 did I get 600 hits on sama search "DivX at Minimum 500Mb" and all of them was complete.

    So, I must say that it may be a greate program, but it sux.

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    Shareaza is a good program but Gnutella sucks! In order to find results in Gnutella, you must wait for Shareaza or Gnucleus to connect to enough "leafs" or "neighbours" so you can cover as much as Gnutella as possible. This can take 5-7 minutes. Anyway, that network sucks big time so try Fastrack or WinMX and you'll find everything.

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    Yes it sux like cubism.
    But I was away for 4h and when I got back I olnly saw:
    5 Neighbours and 4 of them had connectin och handshaking as status.
    Out of 16 downloads zip had started during this time. On my other computer where I run KazaA I did manage to DL 4 fullength films and DirectConnect did DL Visual Studio (6CDs)

    All I can say is that DirectConnec rules, KazaA works and ShareAza just look nice.

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    Look if your just going to bad mouth gnutella and not use it anyways then why waste the time on this thread which half is just your praise of a dead protocol/program like Direct Connect which has no future. There are alot other gnutella programs with more options than just shareaza..

    Broad searches like mp3 or divx dont turn up too many results because they are not specific enough or long enough so it does not match all the results that you can get.

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    In all reality, I see the points that some ppl here made against Shareaza has somewhat valid.
    First of all, I really believe that in 3 months time or so, most of this will be untrue, because Shareaza has an enormous potential for growth. At the moment, itīs still too tightly connected to the old Gnutella protocols to reach itīs full potential and efficiency. Weīll have to wait until Gnutella2 is fully implemented. So, at the moment, itīs not enough for this program to be a well designed and well programed Gnutella client..
    Also, Iīm curious as to what version Kenny is using. Iīm on 1.7.0.8. and, as long as I wait around 10 minutes or so, I get a good number of connections to G2 hubs, and my searches automatically return good results as a consequence...
    As it is, itīs useless to think that Shareaza is a serious competitor to Kazaa. I myself use it as a kind of back up program. But I have to say that I get a lot more results than those reported by Kenny. And Sephiroth is right : searching for file extensions is not the best way to go about it. If I run a search for a fairly popular film or video, I get a lot more results than that...and downloads are usually fast, if you get good sources.
    To say the truth, Iīve tried pratically every Gnutella client out there, and this is the only one that I kept on my PC. But donīt expect miracles...those will come in time.
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    Originally posted by Sephiroth
    Look if your just going to bad mouth gnutella and not use it anyways then why waste the time on this thread which half is just your praise of a dead protocol/program like Direct Connect which has no future. There are alot other gnutella programs with more options than just shareaza..

    absolutely hilarious as you call direct connect a dead protocol, as it has grown and surpassed gnutella, and continues to grow

    shareaza--i got 0 results on everything i tried, even the simplest stuff

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    Originally posted by notbob


    absolutely hilarious as you call direct connect a dead protocol, as it has grown and surpassed gnutella, and continues to grow

    shareaza--i got 0 results on everything i tried, even the simplest stuff
    Technically speaking it has really no future which is probably why the offical verison hasnt been updated in over a year and there has been no protocol changes.. The protocol cannot support things like swarming and it is poorly designed because if it wasnt then you would be able to use a $ dollar sign.

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sephiroth
    [B]Look if your just going to bad mouth gnutella and not use it anyways then why waste the time on this thread which half is just your praise of a dead protocol/program like Direct Connect which has no future.

    Atleast DC find files. In SareAzA i only find "3 Neighbour(s), 27 hosts with 54,387 GB of Content. 65.149 GB in local library"

    Gee, I share more than I can find find with ShareAza. On one day I did not get anything from ShareAza, I did get bad hits and I cant brows any host. It just plain sux and is now out of my computer and I still use my combination of KazaALite 2.0.0 and DirectConnect to get files. Atlest I share so I can use DC.

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    Direct connect isn't good for everyone. It isn't good for new users to file sharing and it is not good for people that have 56k.Shareaza and Direct connect can not be compared becouse there way diffrent. You can't have 56k and use DC and you can't be new. So use DC and be happy. No one cares.
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    Well, i use DC++ too...so, I too say that it is stupid to compare DC and Shareaza. The concept behind both is totally different and, like I said before, Gnutella is still flawed.
    As I also said, itīs also worthless to compare Shareaza with Kazaa...for the moment...
    However, for design, programming, features, Shareaza beats Kazaaīs and DCīs ass anyday...
    Now, we just have to wait and watch it grow, which Iīm pretty positive will happen.
    In the meantime, Iīll keep using alongside DC++ and SoulSeek...

    P.S. I just wish that ppl on post on threads about anything Gnutella - related could come up with a bit more than "Gnutella sux!"...
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    Originally posted by WhitePony
    *Snipp* However, for design, programming, features, Shareaza beats Kazaaīs and DCīs ass anyday...
    Features? Is that all is about? DC got what file sharing needs and no more. It is a simple and nice program that works, and that beats att the features in ShareAzA.
    56k? It must be beter to use DC then. You can not get higher speed with any toher program. It is the modem that is the brake. You can resume with DC and KazaA os that ShareAza shall be beter for modem users are plain BS.

    The point is that I did not ilke it. I did say why I did not like it and I still do not like it.

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    Well, if you read my post well, then you understood in what aspects I thought Shareaza beat DC and Kazaa.
    I didnīt say that, AT THE MOMENT, it was a better file-sharing tool than Kazaa or DC...
    Thatīs why I use DC++, anyway...
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    let me tell u guys one thing i'm not sure but i think some of the gnutella clients implement a security feature that will drop query packets if the keywords are way to general.... coz right now gnutella is very traffic sensitive and it is being fucked over by shitty morpheus clients...... morpheus has become such a problem that gcaches boon to gnutella are being abused and even the main gcache site had to be made offline coz the bandwidth requirements were too high becoz of buggy morpheus...

    Let's hope morpheus dies and dies soon.... but not the gnutella long live gnutella.....oops i meant G2

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    My experience with Shareaza:
    Downloaded, Installed, Ran. Waited for connections to "leafs". Waited for connections some more....Got one connection...searched, selected one song to test...downloaded at 1.05Kb/s. During this wait, I started to make direct comparisons to KaZaa. Lots of people have a problem with KaZaa, saying it's for the newbies, full of fakes, loaded with spyware, etc. Anyways, I realize the comparison is pointless as KaZaa inevitably turns up way more search results and sources as Gnutella has, in my opinion and experience, never worked well on 56k. I really wanted Shareaza to be good, but in my experience (on 56k), KaZaa beat it hands down in connection speed, download speed, and amount of results. In fact, for some reason, I got connected to Gnutella more quickly when I used Zalzah as opposed to the sometimes unending wait for Shareaza to connect. I think DC++ is awesome, it just needs a CRC function to get multiple sources and do some swarming. Overall though, I think FastTrack is the fastest and easiest way to get stuff. No messing around with hubs, waiting for to connect to leaves/servers, huge queues, etc, and as long as you've got KaZaa Lite or have used AdAware, you're clean. Just my two cents.

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    :mellow I am trying G2 tomorrow, and i hope for some good signs. PS good to see you here,pinku

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