A search engine For dc hubs

**Korn377135678** · November 16th, 2002, 10:26 AM

This is a search engine for all(Well most) hubs in the dc network. : http://phats0.d2g.com/glo/
It works great to find the that rare item on dc without gointg to every hub and searching for it.I found the old the maxx mtv eps on it ;).The only thing tho is some hubs will ban you because it slows down thier hub.whitch i dont understand why.Becasuse it would seem like a normal search in a hub would slow it down the same :mellow Well anyway this is a great progie and really puts dc on league with kazza or edonkey.

**notbob** · November 16th, 2002, 11:19 AM

i run a hub--the ones that say it slows down the hub are misinformed idiots

it's no different than any other search in the system

**microwiz** · November 16th, 2002, 11:22 AM

Lots of hubs don't ban GLO-search because of speed issues. They ban it because it runs contrary to the spirit of filesharing, especially to the community ideal of a DC hub.

The key to filesharing on DC is that you join a hub with people who have similar interests to yours and share files with them. GLO-search instead promotes people joining many hubs for just long enough to start the download of a file that GLO-search found, then disconnecting. That's leeching - you're not there long enough for someone else to get your file list, much less to share!

All the hubs I frequent block or ban GLO-search, and I wouldn't have it any other way. If I notice someone downloading from me who's not connected to the hub, I block them at my firewall.

I know there are (a few?) people who use GLO-search but don't leech. I can't tell the difference between them and the leechers, though, and given that there are so many leechers using it, they're not going to get the benefit of the doubt.

Don't use GLO-search.

**Korn377135678** · November 16th, 2002, 12:15 PM

You know whats funny ;) is that i hear that
about every progie i use.Dc user say kazza is crap.Irc users say dc is.
And people have and still do(tho less now ) Say dc++ is evil.I and alot now of people now its not.Personaly I think dc would be dead with out dc++ and glo-search.Normal dc was always crashing.And wile hubs promote having just those files in the hub i.e. video hub,mp3 hub.But sucks If you want a new or rare item.I go to about 3 hubs daily .And some of them just dont have want i want nor do the big 1000 user hubs.This is why you have a user connect to 56 hubs at once.They want to find something .They cant normaily find..Me i wait if someone downloading off me.A leach tool?Well if you go to a hub normaily and some one does not download are you leaching .no. I think people should look at hack and crack of programs more then glo-search as "evil" .And most of the items you would look up full abulms,.isos,.rars,.avi will take many hours like 3 to4 or 20 hours forsome.More then enuff time to download off them.And if you saying a user is evil if they do not go back to that hub i say.nope.Thier has been some hubs that i have seen on glo-search and thats how i found a new hub i like.What i dont see is why coming from progies like napster and kazza people think having a search fuction that works is wrong.I dont leach.If any one wants my files they can download them from me. Its just me having to go to a hundred hubs to downlod a file is crazy.Im not saying use this for every file just the rarer or newer ones you can find on you fav hub or other hubs you have gone threw.

**notbob** · November 16th, 2002, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by microwiz
Lots of hubs don't ban GLO-search because of speed issues. They ban it because it runs contrary to the spirit of filesharing, especially to the community ideal of a DC hub.

anything that exists can be used the right way or the wrong way

if someone uses glosearch, it's a 1 in 2500 shot a) that they'll even find your hub,b)that they will even want something at your hub

as for whether they stay or go, without experimenting you will never find "the" hub you want on the first try--gloseach can narrow the field to hubs that have stuff you like

as for the "owners" that complain, it's totally easy to block if you want to, so they have nothing to bitch about

**microwiz** · November 16th, 2002, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Korn377135678
And most of the items you would look up full abulms,.isos,.rars,.avi will take many hours like 3 to4 or 20 hours forsome.More then enuff time to download off them.

How do you "download off them" if they join the hub, start their download, then disconnect from the hub? Their download will continue, but no one will be able to see their files or start a download from them.

That's leeching, IMHO, no two ways about it.

**notbob** · November 16th, 2002, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by microwiz

How do you "download off them" if they join the hub, start their download, then disconnect from the hub? Their download will continue, but no one will be able to see their files or start a download from them.

That's leeching, IMHO, no two ways about it.

you can do the same thing with regular neomodus dc--you don't need glosearch to do it

**microwiz** · November 16th, 2002, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by notbob

anything that exists can be used the right way or the wrong way

[snipped]

as for the "owners" that complain, it's totally easy to block if you want to, so they have nothing to bitch about

Right - it's just that GLO-search is generally used in the wrong way, at least from the experiences of the 6 or so hubs I frequent.

I have never, EVER heard someone say "hey guys, great hub! I found you using GLO-search and I'm going to stick around!" It's more like "who is <username> and why are they downloading from me if they didn't stay connected? oh yeah, they showed up right after that last GLO-search came through..."

It's not 'totally easy' to block either, with the hacked versions running around that make up a random 4-character beginning for the username each time. I'm guessing that the jerks using that version at least have some idea that it's evil, though.

**microwiz** · November 16th, 2002, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by notbob

you can do the same thing with regular neomodus dc--you don't need glosearch to do it

Sure - it's just that GLO-search almost guarantees it will happen, especially with plain-vanilla NMDC. Search, connect to hub A, start your download, search again, disconnect from hub A, connect to hub B, start your next download ...

No "sharing" there that I can see.

At least with dc++ you'd be able to stay in the hubs. Pity that several of the hubs I go to script against people connecting to more than 3 hubs at once, though, isn't it? :) (The ones that don't, kick the people who show up connected to 50+ hubs with only 2-3 slots open, too.)

**notbob** · November 17th, 2002, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by microwiz

At least with dc++ you'd be able to stay in the hubs. Pity that several of the hubs I go to script against people connecting to more than 3 hubs at once, though, isn't it? :) (The ones that don't, kick the people who show up connected to 50+ hubs with only 2-3 slots open, too.)

yes you will be in the hubs, but so what? if you are on 50 hubs with 3 slots, then a maximum of 3 of them can get files from you--then you are leeching on 47 hubs. or the converse, you are on 3 hubs sharing 20 slots--lots of people can connect, but their downloads go so slow that getting files is impossible

i personally believe in 1 or 2 hubs, 4 slots (i have a 128 line) they can get decent speeds, and everyone has a better shot at getting them

if you see someone downloading off of you and they aren't on the userlist, cut 'em off! if it happens consistently, call an op and have them banned

**microwiz** · November 17th, 2002, 11:00 AM

Yeah, I have cable (256kbit up) and I do 2-4 hubs, 6 slots. that way i could max out 6 56K users, or do better for broadband users if not all the slots are full :wings

**Korn377135678** · November 17th, 2002, 12:52 PM

First off i allways stay connected to hub im downloading from.And inless you catch a time when a persons a sleep.you will get kick from your downloads if your not thier.As far as the cracked or hacked ver.I have heard of this.But havent seen it or have seen it been talked about.Most people i talk to dont even know what glo is.But its true with any software you can do the "right" or "wrong thing".

**notbob** · November 17th, 2002, 03:20 PM

the cracked one is not a problem-- i see one of them maybe every 6 hours (as opposed to the regular one i see twice a second)

(on my hub, which is on the list--if you want to get rid of them make a private hub, but then you will never get any new users)