No offense...but the Fed's don't really give a shit if some lamers/sickos share child porn vid's. It's just not at the top of there list....and since the sicko can just get a new IP by signing off and on....well how can you report an IP that already has a new owner who isn't a sick twit? You kinda got a scapegoat thing going on if you did that.....there is no way to really stop it. We already went through this in another thread ages ago....search for it....Originally posted by Lazy Robot
Im not saying IP ban them. I think thats stupid, I think we should report them to the feds and let them get a good ol ass beating. And if nobody is going to distribute it then less people will have it. If there were no drug dealers, there would be less crack addicts.
I know a lot of people may be thinking "sharing the IP of pedophiles? The people who download music will surely be next!" Well I dont know what would be next but I do think music sharers probobly would be targeted. But is it really worth it? Do you think we should just let these pedophiles free because u want to be able to download mp3s?
Downloads started using sig2dats are slower (or at least with me, anybody know what causes this?). And I currently do not support sherman because I am using kazaalite and sherman gets no revenue from people who use it. Not like I would switch over to regular kazaa if they did fix this crap. And fasttrackmovies.com definately does not have every movie I would want to download.
I know nobody hear supports pedophiles, so why would it be so much to ask that they have thier ip reported to the feds? I know everyone is going to attack me for this because they think arresting child pornographers would be an end to p2p, but think about it. Just because you may not able to steal terrible quality movies from movie companies who overprice everything does not make it ok to let pedophiles do as they please.
Tip: Yup, but it could be safe to say that some whacked out pedo junkie could get his 'fix' from watching a shitty video he downloaded rather then harming yet another child. Could have the opposite effect though.....
Anyway this crap is being rehashed...it can't be stopped so ignore it. And if your morals fuck with your head....stop getting your music/movies for free and go start a "stop P2P childporn" rally.
Dalie: It encourges my lunch to come back up......bah what a loose whore.
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Hmm. I hate to play devil's advocate on these issues, because I agree, this problem has been hashed and rehashed on Zero and we only ever conclude that there are no easy solutions. Time and effort is best spent on things you can fix.
But a few thoughts, CCS.
First, this "no fed is going to give a shit" stuff is silly. Feds work in departments. It's not like they're some monolithic entity now saying: "ok, let's take some time off from tax policy to figure out what to do about child porn." I can guarantee you that there are feds (though maybe only a few) who's sole job right now is figuring this problem out. That said, don't know what they're going to do, unless the courts bend the entrapment rules for this.
I think you're right to be skeptical about the "porn rather than victim" angle. We are what we do. Every time I do something, I become just a tiny bit more the kind of person who will do so again (even if only due to perceived self-image). If this is a sickness, it's feeding it. If this is simply criminality, it's rewarding it. Not good.
Erm. And a little ridiculous to say to someone that if they have a moral problem with child porn they should have a moral problem with P2P!!
I know, it seems like this conversation has been had so many times, it's alright to be off-hand about dismissing possible "solutions" and concerns. But every poster that comes along hasn't necessarily been in on those conversations, so I think best to either not respond or give it the same care you gave it the first time round. Otherwise you're just going to spurn a new round of debate (like this) on tangential issues, when most of us, I think, agree that there is nothing for us to be done here. Just my two cents.
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