Yeah Krell, for shizzle ma nizzle, and it isn't even a New Year's resolution yet. :icon_kingOriginally Posted by DwarfBaby
Ok DasFox, it's cool, and I'll leave it alone. But seriously, you just needed a little more etiquette and research before walking in here claiming your balls were as big as oranges.
Cool cjules13, THANKS.
Didn't mean to have them orange sized, actually I was thinking coconuts, LOL, just kidding. :icon_joke
Anyhow yes my tact was awful, and again I apologize for that, I will most certainly show greater etiquette.
As far as research, now I say this in ALL humility. Again as I mentioned before, I've used torrents since they started, and the same for when P2P networks began. I think my research is overly extensive for all these years.
Anyhow enough said all is done, all is cool.
cjules13 I hope you had a GREAT Christmas, and have a GREAT Happy New Year! :icon_sunn
Yeah torrents are OK, I am upping one right now though to a private site and it is gonna take FOREVER just to get my ratio up anywhere NEAR 1.0, because people have mostly stopped downloading it from me. That is the only downside I can see of torrents, it just takes too long to get your ratio up on private sites where it counts.
I guess this is how I see it:
BitTorrent:
Pros:
Free
Fast on proper trackers
Greater sense of community on proper trackers
Almost unlimited selection
Greater retention time
Cons:
Security
Ratios (unless you're Johnny on the spot like me:)
Newsgroups:
Pros:
Consistently max speed
Security
No uploading
Cons:
Not free
Shorter retention (leads to slightly lower selection, but request system is good)
What are your pros and cons?
I'd rather spend the extra money, if I was going to, on extra bandwidth. My ISP has an extreme speed connection for $11 extra per month. It would drastically improve my upload bandwidth and certainly help my incoming.
I usually find everything I want, file wise, but not all on bittorrent. I'd say a large % of my music came from Napster and AudioGalaxy, back in the day. However, nowadays, I find just about everything I need, except for the rare stuff I still use Soulseek and eMule. Emule may be very slow to some people, but it always pulls through with the goods. I recently d/l a very old and rare movie from eMule. I can guarantee you wouldn't have found it on usenet anytime soon. It was no where to be found on BT. I was actually very surprised to find it at all.
I would be willing to try usenet, but I have mostly everything I want. I also have trouble with BT ratios because of that. I very selectively d/l these days making it difficult to maintain the ratio. I could never justify spending money on a service (newsgroups) that I would hardly ever use. Also, being an old fart, would it have the content I enjoy or would I always be requesting files?
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I don't understand what that means?
Anyways, I guess my biggest pro for Newsgroups is I just do it. I click on the NZB(torrent) and I get that file. No worrying about upload ratio and worrying about Cease and Desist Letters. I don't worry about wait time or seeding or seed to leach ratio. Basically newsgroups are a lot less work and stress.
If a file can't be found on Usenet I'll fire up Utorrent and check a few torrent sites. If I still can't find it all head back to the Newsgroups and request it.
I don't view this in terms as pros or cons. I just use the right tool for the right situation. Usenet is really an amazing tool.
I'm still waiting on someone to write a Cliffs Notes guide demonstrating this.
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It means on private sites, there are private forums available with only those members where you can discuss the filenames and comment sections with avatars and post counts etc, sort of like here, but without too many new guys running in and out.
When you've been hanging around sites for so long, you get to know the people and the uploaders, so it's more community-like.
A pro for me at least.
Newsgroups have the same thing!
In certian groups, there are uploaders you can ask for just about anything in that group and they pretty much have it. You get your request filled in hours. I don't know HOW they get all that stuff, but they must have a connection to the library of congress or something. LOL!
Hells yeah usenet pwns
Usenet wins hands down, there is nothing beatin it
good thread, good info for the newbie who wants to learn how to get files.
Are newsgroups where torrent uploaders get the most recent/scene releases of films, TV shows, music, etc?
Also, is it worth subscribing to a usenet indexing service like newzbin?
I am thinking of delving into newsgroups but am unsure of a few noob things.
Thanks.
Even though some torrent uploaders may get their files first from newsgroups....I am uncertian of how often it happens. A lot of private torrent sites get their new releases or O-day as it is called... from people who are on private FTP top sites or know someone who is.
Though a lot of Private BT sites sometimes get new releases first, it is evened out by the fact that by the time it takes you to upload BACK a file that is 750mb in size, on newsgroups, you don't have to upload anything back!
So I can download SEVERAL files at my MAX SPEED on newsgroups... by the time I am able to upload back that ONE file I downloaded on a private BT site just to keep my ratio up....because on newsgroups...there IS no upload ratio! Only "leeching"or downloading....unless you have the skills to upload something to a certian group...and even THEN mostly they don't want you to upload anything until they get to know you.
Secondly, on your question of indexing sites....newzbin is by far the BEST! Hands down...but that is only my opinion.There are free NZB indexing sites out there like the peer hub,but they have mainly movies and TV shows whereas newzbin has everything neatly indexed. So to me, it is WELL worth the small fee to use Newzbin.
Thanks for that. I think I will sign up to a newsgroup server and give it a go.
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