bizarre behaviour of Ants!

[kerjodando]

Ants is not a well supported platform.
This is why you have no answers.

I havent used it myself

ANts p2p is well supported it is just many forums close threads where ANts p2p is discussed.

Ban users who discuss it.

Delete posts about it from archives.

Mod and expert users in some furums refuse to even try it although they seem to try every other new p2p software.

Let's face it the main purpose of many p2p forums is to stop the development of p2p by:

• publicising every case where someone gets busted for using p2p
• promoting safer pay options such as newsgroups
• not supporting new development in p2p
• discussing everything except for p2p e.g. music, movies and polygamy

I could go on.

dsoslglece I'm glad that you've solved your ANts problem.

"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet.
Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where
were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation

Remember P2P is not just about ripping-off artists, record companies and movie studios there is also a political agenda.

From Wikipedia:

Views on the desirability of anonymous P2P

Proponents of anonymous P2P sometimes argue that such technology is desirable and in some cases necessary to ensure freedom of speech and the free flow of information. They claim that true freedom of speech, especially on controversial subjects, is difficult or impossible unless individuals can speak anonymously. They argue that if anonymity were not possible, one could be subjected to threats or reprisals for voicing an unpopular view. This is one reason why voting is done by secret ballot in many democracies.

Anonymous P2P also has value in normal daily communication. When communication is anonymous, the decision to reveal the identity of the communicating parties is left up to the parties involved and is not available to a third party. Often there is no need or desire by the communicating party to be forced to reveal their identity. As a matter of personal freedom, many people do not want processes in place by default which supply unnecessary data. Such data, they say, could also be complied into histories of their activities, and which in their opinion, should be inherently controlled by the caller, not the called.

For example the current phone system transmits caller ID information by default to the other party. If one is calling to make an inquiry about a product or a time of a movie, the person called has a record of the phone number which called and therefore the name, address and the potential for more information about the person. If one were to walk into a store or up to a person on the street and make a similar inquiry all this personal information would not be involved. Anonymous P2P simply allows for a currently existing activity in “meatspace” to now occur over a communications network.

BTW dsoslglece how did you get ANts p2p to work?

[Mels_Smileys45]

No, its not well supported. Its just that few people like to make lots of accounts and talk to themselves about it. They are all probably one person with many names. Its great that there might be some sort of work going on but don't be fooled. I have no problem with this person or persons but the reasons I listed is why most sites close, ban or do not allow ants to be talked about.


Again, not well supported by any stretch of the imagination, Hornet.


I do agree that all P2P sites are killing P2P by steering people to BT but thats a different story

[dsoslglece]

ANts p2p is well supported it is just many forums close threads where ANts p2p is discussed.

Ban users who discuss it.

Delete posts about it from archives.

Mod and expert users in some furums refuse to even try it although they seem to try every other new p2p software.

Let's face it the main purpose of many p2p forums is to stop the development of p2p by:

• publicising every case where someone gets busted for using p2p
• promoting safer pay options such as newsgroups
• not supporting new development in p2p
• discussing everything except for p2p e.g. music, movies and polygamy

I could go on.

dsoslglece I'm glad that you've solved your ANts problem.

"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet.
Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where
were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation

Remember P2P is not just about ripping-off artists, record companies and movie studios there is also a political agenda.

From Wikipedia:

Views on the desirability of anonymous P2P

Proponents of anonymous P2P sometimes argue that such technology is desirable and in some cases necessary to ensure freedom of speech and the free flow of information. They claim that true freedom of speech, especially on controversial subjects, is difficult or impossible unless individuals can speak anonymously. They argue that if anonymity were not possible, one could be subjected to threats or reprisals for voicing an unpopular view. This is one reason why voting is done by secret ballot in many democracies.

Anonymous P2P also has value in normal daily communication. When communication is anonymous, the decision to reveal the identity of the communicating parties is left up to the parties involved and is not available to a third party. Often there is no need or desire by the communicating party to be forced to reveal their identity. As a matter of personal freedom, many people do not want processes in place by default which supply unnecessary data. Such data, they say, could also be complied into histories of their activities, and which in their opinion, should be inherently controlled by the caller, not the called.

For example the current phone system transmits caller ID information by default to the other party. If one is calling to make an inquiry about a product or a time of a movie, the person called has a record of the phone number which called and therefore the name, address and the potential for more information about the person. If one were to walk into a store or up to a person on the street and make a similar inquiry all this personal information would not be involved. Anonymous P2P simply allows for a currently existing activity in “meatspace” to now occur over a communications network.

BTW dsoslglece how did you get ANts p2p to work?

Well, I didn't realize that there was so much animosity by someones concerning Ants!... in fact, I came to those zeropaid forum on an indication given by an Ant user, saying that some Ants experts are members of it, including Gwren, the creator... so I thought it was for Ants, something like eDonkey Forum (now dead) for eD2k... or Gnutella for LimeWire... and true, one seems to attract desobliging comments or even menaces of been banned for pishing, by simply asking in all naivity a simple and honnest question! gosh! I thought any idea, even bad ones could be examined in complete serenity if it was for the sake of maybe finding a good solution or even only a better one, concerning any subject, and including P2P... I agree with you that anonymity on the net is a good thing, even if, at the beginning I was not really partisan of it... but, with experience, it seems to be necessary, only would it be because of not everybody being really ethical, and since it prevents so, any unwanted one to poursue and track one to his home address... if you ask your way to somebody on the road, you wouldn't necessary like that person following you to your place, and harrassing you...
apart of that, I myself being prepared to change any of my idea or belief, to a new and better one...PROVIDED I got a good reason to believe the new idea is better or more close to the truth... it took me a bit of time to realize that some people are fixed on there own ideas, good or bad, like naufragees on a tube...
anyway, so goes that world!...
As for my working Ants, I just reinstalled it once more (but with "Antsp2p.jlnp"), and, as for the hashing of the shared files is concerned, it started it then, and finished it completely and correctly... I must add that those shared files don't go as oftens than with eD2k, which is my prefered second client, much faster than anything else I experimented (BitTorrent, Xtorrent, Azureus, aMule, Transmission, LimeWire, etc), but again, I believe it's only a question of size of net, and of course the fact that my files are only of interest for real specialists or/and music lovers... which seems to be more numerous on eD2k's net, or even Gnutella's...
Cheers