I posted something about 10 days ago concerning problems with Ants, and tried to resolve it by myself since there had been up to now, no answer (I suppose nobody new a proper solution!)... In the between though, I changed My ISP , and, since everything else now works like a charm (particularly eDonkey grinding away... I tried to re-start Ants... nope!
of course, I opened very carefully the TCP 443 and UDP 444, in the LiveBox (It was already open in my mac's FireWall, and as for the firewall from my ISP, I turned it of... no need!)... but it woudnt start any way. (I must add that this problems occured even with all other clients shut down!)
There are times where it stays the whole night "connecting"... so, I thought that maybe the IP was not correct, in fact, it wasn't My IP, but when I do enter mine, it comes with a window saying that the format of that number should be xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, which is true, but, even in that form, there is some time only 1 or 2 numbers between 2 dots!... and that is the case... I thought that maybe he wants the IP from My router and gave to him, but didn't work either...
So, going to the tutorial here, I DLed "AntsP2P.jlnlp"... and re-installed Ants (for the at least 15th time but before, it had been installed with the zip file)... no need to say that I de-installed what could be and put the rest to the garbage. First, it mentioned some errors in DLing it, but after few trials, installation seemed to be Poifect... but there is always a funny behaviour in trying to start it (still doesn't run!) The icon placed on the desk, which looks like a big A made with a ruler, a pencil and a brush (it may be different on Windows!) when I click on it, first, it become a red sphere like a planet (maybe earth), with a sort of a grey rocket turning around it... and so, that new icon starts to jump up and down on the dock (like a little girl wanting to go urgently to the loo!), which by us is the way to show that the app is going to open... but it stops after maybe 1 mn!... and, nothing more.
By the way, it was behaving the same with the previous installations... and, so, to start, I alwayss had to, not click on the application or it's icon, but on the java file just underneath: "AntsP2P.jar" ...
An other crazy thing is that some time, when I try to start it, it comes with the remark that I have to try an other port than 443, or stop the application using it... but the only app I know using it is ThunderBird, and I am carefull to put it off before... in fact, I do shut about everything... Well, some time it had been an other Ant app having mounted by mistake in clicking one time to much on it... but now, I'm very carefull of it and even searched the all OS for maybe some Ants somewhere having been installed by mistake... but nada!
By the way, I noticed one more thing, but I am not quite sure of what to think of it:
Since I'm using Ants, every time I start the PC (and I'm restarting it quite oftens to make shure nothing runs, else then Ants) the Terminal comes alive and there is a whole set of commands made automatically about java... I guess it is the java app getting automatically on for Ants...
My PC is a Power Mac G4, with Tiger 10.4.6, and the Ants is the beta1.5.8-protocol: 0.9.5.
I would very much appreciate someone giving me an advise, since I'm turning a bit in circles... And it worked for a while at the begining! even with my ISP filtering the P2P (eDonkey couldn't connect, and LimeWire only with lot of trouble, but didn't load any thing anyway, but Ants was completely unseen from it... and I did manage to have a good speed for a while... Thanks in advance...
Well, I just got maybe the beginning of a clue about the port 443 being "used", since that, doing some security tests again <https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2> I realized that, even all my protections off, (I'm normally in stielthed mode), there are still 5 ports still stielthed (probably then by the ISP): 21, 23, 80, 135, 443, 445.
so, it may be some time blocked for no reason of my own... I will investigate further... But anyway, even in giving Ants an other port to look at (for instance 4443-4444, or 2443-2444), it doesn't work better either...
Ants is not a well supported platform.
This is why you have no answers.
I havent used it myself
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you got a help description in the other thread. insert the right IP adress and then connect over the chatroom.
Ants works perfect. only searches are less and downloads slow. connection process works.
Yeah, thanks Beckersbester, it connects alright, took a bit time though (!), I must only let it use whatever it will for IP... though, I have to use an other port than 443... it always tells me something else uses it (?) even with ThunderBird and DynDNS disconnected... I guess the fact that 443 is one of the 5 ports staying stielthed EVEN when my firewall is off, has probably something to do with it... and that can only come (I believe) from the ISP...
But, since I'm connected (and I already could see that when finally established, this connection is very solid!), and exchanging files already (but I did early too), I'd like to know about the problems I mentionned earlier, and which seems to be bugs... (of course, I read all the data and help available about it!) since I'd like to share some of my own files...
I tried to trick it, and, since I saw that the finished files are also continuing to be shared, I tried to add some of my files with the finished ones... but then, it reacts the same as iwhen adding a new shared directory... it starts to hash, and stays half way like that, the leg up in the air, never finishing the hashing... so, I'd guess it's the hashing that is the problem!...
Yeah, thanks Beckersbester, it connects alright, took a bit time though (!), I must only let it use whatever it will for IP... though, I have to use an other port than 443... it always tells me something else uses it (?) even with ThunderBird and DynDNS disconnected... I guess the fact that 443 is one of the 5 ports staying stielthed EVEN when my firewall is off, has probably something to do with it... and that can only come (I believe) from the ISP...
But, since I'm connected (and I already could see that when finally established, this connection is very solid!), and exchanging files already (but I did early too), I'd like to know about the problems I mentionned earlier, and which seems to be bugs... (of course, I read all the data and help available about it!) since I'd like to share some of my own files...
I tried to trick it, and, since I saw that the finished files are also continuing to be shared, I tried to add some of my files with the finished ones... but then, it reacts the same as when adding a new shared directory... it starts to hash, and stays half way like that, the leg up in the air, never finishing the hashing... so, I'd guess it's the hashing that is the problem!...
If you have problems connecting please see ANts p2p user guide:
http://antsp2p.altervista.org/
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANts_P2P
Thanks
:hi
Well, its not really the problem to connect, and I've also been already to that userguide, thanks anyway...
How I said it precedently, I'm connected now again, (not port 443 though) but I'd like to be able to share my own files, and it doesn't want to hash it correctly! I also would like to use the browser, and Ants doesn't seem to be able to locate it inspite of the path correctly visible and indicated on the settings window...
What PC specification (processor speed, RAM etc), operation system, internet connection.
Home, university or work?
Are you behind a proxy or firewall?
Have forwarded ports (strickly not necessary)?
Does you country/state block internet access?
What version of Java have you got?
Have you managed to downloaded any files?
Have you managed to use tha anonymous chat?
Are you using Skype or is anyone else on your LAN using ANts p2p (if applicable)?
I need answers to the above to be able to give you a good reply.
Thanks, Kerjodando, for answering, Here's the data:
for the moment my other PC being on repair I'm using my older one: Power PC G4, 400Mhz, RAM 320 Mo, Mac OS X 10.4.6.
connection ADSL 512/1024 Mo
I'm home, living alone, and I did hunt for unwanted other Ants maybe running by mistake (it has the habit, if one clicks once too much, to start two Ants together, or even 3 or 4 !
I've got some proxies (JAP or TOR), but not for P2P, and I made shure any way to disable Privoxy (it comes with TOR) which is more a pain than anything else. Even PeerGuardian is off at the moment and its filters disabled.
My personnal FireWall (built in) has the properly opened ports (the ones used by Ants originally 443-4, but at the moment, also 4567 & 4568... And I didn't forget to give the proper authorizations for Ants to Little Snitch, to let it go anywhere on the net. and as for Anti-viruses etc, I almost never puts it on, only before to send a documents to friends on Windows.
the modem given by the ISP is a router, and so, I had also to open into it, the same holes as for the FireWall.
I'm in France, and up to now no connection to the net is blocked... That had been the case with the previous ISP (Free) that's why I booted him, since he was filtering the P2P connections ! but yet, Ants was not detected, and though had no problem, So now, I verified first with my new ISP (Orange) that he is not filtering or shaping, and actually, eDonkey and Xtorrent are working fine...
For Java, I don't really know where to find the data, since java comes, I think, built in with all Macs... I've got, looking for what comes after a search, 88 files with java in their name... and java.applescript, 936 code sources, 4642 HTML... but I suppose that only the applications could interess you...
they are 5:
Java Web Start,
Java Web Browser,
Applets starter,
Java-external-module-setting 1.4.2,
Java module setting 1.3.1...
and I suppose that one of the two last may be what you ask for.
I managed to DL some files completely, and was still busy Downloading some quite big ones, without problems... just now, I had to restart the PC, and Ants is still trying to connect, but I'm aware it can take quite a lot of time... so, I'm not worrying to much 'bout it...
I've got Skype, but it is off for the moment, so as DynDNS (using also port 443).
Nobody else on my LAN.
My only enquiry, is to be able to hash correctly my personnal files to be shared... Ants starts to do it, but everything freezes at the middle of the first file from the directory (whatever is the first one!), staying like that even after few restarts... and showing as total indexed files :0
the second thing is the fact that my browser (Firefox), inspite ot the correct path appearing on the window, is not founded by Ants:
(Browser: /Applications/Internet/Browsers/Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.7)
I also tried without intervals between Firefox and 1, also without Mozilla but no more result... so when I want for instance to go for help/tutorial, or Help/website, it gives an error message saying that the browser was not found and that I must indicate the path to it. But I must say: that it secondary to the previous one, since I want to share my concerts with Ants, as I'm doing with eDonkey or LimeWire.
In advance, thanks.
You seem like an experienced and knowledgable user of secure p2p. So I'm surprised that this feature is not working.
The only thing that comes to mind is the version of Java.
What version are you using?
Thanks very much Kerjodando, for your concern, I must say I feel a bit like a fool now, I wrote last post, last night around 2 in morning, and this morning around 8, I started again to investigate... first trying again to download and examine that new update for java... true, I tried already few times to DL it, and it never worked... So, this time, it worked! and true too, the native version on my Mac is 1.4.2, and the new update is 1.5.1... so I installed it... and tried on the spot to restart Ants (it was trying to connect since last night!...) and it worked on the spot... more, I saw that the hashing of my files was going on full blast... the only little trouble is that it seems difficult to install Ants in the folder I like it to be, with the other P2P apps... it always gets installed in my personnal files... but I like some order in all my apps and files... I tried to move it to the right location, but whenever I start it again, it reinstalls a second app on the old location!... but that is quite OK, and I think I'll come to a handling of that... got already some ideas how to...
More to that, reading the Ants P2P guide, I previously didn't pass the first unsuccesful step of updating java, and didn' read then the answer to one of my questions: Mac OS uses for its own business the port 443, and so, some times (when in use), Ants cant connect... other times when not in use, it can, and they give the advise for Mac users to use other ports instead... So I'm very sorry to have ask your help for questions I could well have find myself with a bit more perspicacity... I must say as a feable excuse, that Ants is different from all the other P2P clients I used in the past!... Cheers
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:icon_prof :icon_sunn :icon_boun :icon_boun :icon_sunnGreat that it is working for you now.Originally Posted by dsoslglece
No need to be sorry - I am just grateful that there are unselfish pioneers willing to take up the challenge of new applications on the bleeding edge of technology.
Cheers to you - I salute you for your tenacity.
Port 443 is used for the ssl protocol allowing ssl sessions from and to your machine.Maybe that has something to do with port 443 screwing up.Just a thought.When I run my secure software file server it runs on port 443 and it won't allow anything else to run on the port either.Who knows?
Thanks, Blackram,I'm glad you answered to me, since in an other part of that forum I had been rather badly received by twoo wild persons (including a mod [!]) for just asking very politely a question, and so I was wondering if everyone wouldn't be like that in here (I forgot that I also had a very nice answer from Kerjodando just higher on here)...
Concerning the question of port 443, How I mention it in my last answer, I read that it is sometime used by the macs for its own purpose, and since then, I saw, written in the Ants tutorial that being on Mac one musn't use port 443...
By the way, everything now is working fine... of course, it is rather slower then eD2k, but more secure, and I use the two concurently... I guess that, when more people will have learn about it, and when the number will grow, that it'll go faster too. By the way, maybe you have the answer for that question I'd been murdered for having ask to those chaps... one of them said that there can be no anonymity nor security on the net, well, I know it about, but with the new coming of Ants, I asked him if it was just an opinion (that I could respect) or a proven fact, in which case I would have liked to know the reasons behind, and the facts... quoting Ants and the principles behind it which look quite secure to me... and true, I would really like to know it... I'm prepared to believe anything, but whith facts, and not just affirmations... and especially since that affirmation seems to contradict what I thought of Ants, I would like to know the real truth of it... but I guess that those chaps only knew what they where talkin' about... and generally, anger, fight and menaces come only when there is uncertainty and a lack of good reasons...
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