Anyone familiar with RatioMaster?

**Jared Moya** · July 27th, 2006, 05:08 PM

Now I dont exaclty endorse it, those guys over at OINK are total nazis and was wondering if anybody knew whether or not Ratiomaster was detectable on their part?

**broadwayrock** · July 28th, 2006, 05:24 AM

Its very likely that they can detect it, as they crack down heavily on cheaters.

**thepuzzler** · July 28th, 2006, 05:34 AM

How come you've gone to the darkside, soul? Two accounts, now thinking bout ratio cheating. I wouldn't chance it myself.

Theres prolly an easier way to get a legit account and start from fresh.

**Jared Moya** · July 28th, 2006, 11:26 AM

I know, the "force" in me has been swayed :)..........think rato cheating is BS as it really F's up the system and people lose the incentive to share, BUT, I dont know what I would do without OINK and was contemplating using it from time to time just to keep in their good graces ratio wise.

As the thing with that site, kinda like Pisexy, is that oftentimes its way easier to get stuff than it is to share it. You know u can DL a 70MB album in liek a minuute, but it will take you forever to share it long enough to get that magic 1.0. Sure u can UL stuff but again its gotta be stuff people want yet isnt offered there already.

All in all, Im sure OINk can detect it, their crazy like that. I remember being on their IRC channel(big mistake BTW) and the MOD chick cut me off midsentence, kicked me and then banned me. Was way crazy.

**thepuzzler** · July 28th, 2006, 11:57 AM

How about this.

Goto start, Run, type "cmd"

then type:

ipconfig /release (Beware you're internet connection will drop after you type this)

then wait about a day (if you type the next command too soon, you'll pick up the same IP again)

ipconfig /renew

Then -bang!- new IP.

Then get a new invite sent to a new webmail address and re-register.

**serrebi101** · July 28th, 2006, 12:11 PM

Ishare, but at a place like oink it's difficult to keep a 1:1 ratio because of the restrictions on new peers. So unless you have a 1337 promo release with a track 10.5 that nobody has, it's very hard to keep ratio, even if your trying. Other sights have the same problem, but they don't have bitchy admins that try to kill you with harshitities if you don't keep your ratio, or ban your ip over that. I still wouldn't use a cheater app. I keep a 1.395 ratio over at filemp3 with no problems, and same with stuff from other priv sites, like dididave etc. I kind of wouldn't mind trying again, since I have a fresh IP now, and encryption has come around, so it might be easier. If anyone has a spare invite, fire it to

**Don't ask for invites**

**thepuzzler** · July 28th, 2006, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by serrebi101

but at a place like oink it's difficult to keep a 1:1 ratio because of the restrictions on new peers.

What restrictions? It's not like they have wait times for new torrents like other sites.

Originally Posted by serrebi101

...and encryption has come around, so it might be easier.

RC4 encryption is to get around ISP's efforts to traffic shape BT traffic. It in no way makes you anonymous, etc.
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It really isnt as hard to keep a ratio as people say, and man, do I have a shitty upload cap (30kbs).

Just keep your stuff seeding and its all good, plus they've recently changed they're ratio requirements. Anyone that can't keep a 0.3 ratio doesn't deserve to be there anyway IMO.

**Jared Moya** · July 28th, 2006, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by thepuzzler

How about this.

Goto start, Run, type "cmd"

then type:

ipconfig /release (Beware you're internet connection will drop after you type this)

then wait about a day (if you type the next command too soon, you'll pick up the same IP again)

ipconfig /renew

Then -bang!- new IP.

Then get a new invite sent to a new webmail address and re-register.

Yah Ive heard this advice as well, though also heard that it doesnt matter, that ones ISP will maintain the same address for you and u have to call to specifically request that it be changed. Might give it a twirl, though dont know if I can stay off the interent for an entire day :o

**shawners** · July 28th, 2006, 04:05 PM

I didnt believe it, but used it on BITSOUP because i dont download from there and my ratio was already over 1.126. I tried it on a music cd.. It registered me as a seeder having a 100 percent. I didnt download anything, and i set the upload paremeter to go between 50-72kbs. It did that, i think i uploaded 250megs. Without uploading. Im not banned. It will not be banned or detected if you set it up right. Upload speed reasonable, something that has tons of leechers. If your gonna do that, you might as well actually seed. The ratiomaster is setup like any bt client. Might as well just seeding. It sends out fake information that its the latest and greatest BT client. If they did try to ban it,it be impossible. Ban all ABC client users, azuerues, utorrent, bitcomit, as well as others. It tells the tracker that its the actual client. More that are aware of it and uses it, there be a trade off later on when there is actually no thing like a real seed. And when you actually want something, you cant obtain it since people are lieing about their amount there uploading. I can see that later on private sites may implement their on bt client that can be used and secure it from being easily hacked.

**Jared Moya** · July 28th, 2006, 04:15 PM

Used to increase my ration on a Howrad Stern torrent site, and it did work, so far anyways. It has a feature that allows you to vary the rate from time to time also so that its not a constant stream of uploaded data, a surefire giveaway. You simply select teh parameters, ie max and min upload speeds, you want, select a tracker to attach it to and presto. Thats how its so hard to dtect I presume as it it piggybacks on an actual tracker.

Still afraid to try it with OINk though..............any volunteers? :)

**shawners** · July 28th, 2006, 04:58 PM

It will work with oink, no one can detect it. Actually the only thing is you got to monitor it. Reporting upload to a torrent with no leeches will get you easily hang. Implementing how much you have uploaded is redundant. Your gonna have to be careful, scripts are written all the time to take care of stuff like this. This is pretty new, i doubt they have a counter measure. And how could they. It registers with the tracker and shows it as the latest and greatest BT client.

**nukehella** · July 29th, 2006, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by soulxtc

Yah Ive heard this advice as well, though also heard that it doesnt matter, that ones ISP will maintain the same address for you and u have to call to specifically request that it be changed. Might give it a twirl, though dont know if I can stay off the interent for an entire day :o

You must change your MAC address young Grasshopper.Then the way to a new IP will become clear to you.

**nukehella** · July 29th, 2006, 08:05 PM

I really need to stop assuming everyone knows the same things I know.
What I should have said was if your ISP has static IP's you're screwed.But if you just have dynamic IP's that take a while to get released on the other end by the ISP(it can take hours) after you do the release/renew on yours you can get a new IP immediately by changing the MAC address on your NIC card,then doing the release/renew.
Hope that wasn't too:icon_scra

**shawners** · July 30th, 2006, 08:19 AM

I scanned through the ratiomaster. A hidden setting lets you seed/or upload til the leechers reach a number.. Like you can have it set to 0 or 3 where it wont upload if leechers decline, so i guess its gonna be hard to monitor this program. Or fix sites that require ratio. So far it can be very undetectable.