I was told that in the new movie that is comming out that they kill off some main characters. I really think it is stupid to get people used to characters and then kill them off.
Giant fight movie... Brotherhood vs X-Men... someone has to die.... and then you say spoilers?
I was really hoping to have something spoiled....
“The martyr sacrifices themselves entirely in vain. Or rather not in vain; for they make the selfish more selfish, the lazy more lazy, the narrow narrower.” - Florence Nightingale
Well it IS a spoiler to ME! I just don't understand why they feel a need to kill off MAIN characters. That is kind of like when they decided to kill off captian kirk of star trek, why the hell could they not let him just retire and die of old age?
When you kill off a main character, then that is it! There is no more appearances to be made by that character....unless you raise him from the dead by time warping.
Death is a part of life and gives great weight to any good movie. Problem is, like all super hero comics, the powers that be can't let them stay dead. They always come back, perhaps with a new look or different powers, and that just sucks. Heros who die become truely immortal and live on in our minds. Sometimes it can turn people against a movie though. Look at the Matrix. No one wanted the lovers to die and the backlash was horrible. I thought it fitting myself. But It seems not even Neo can stay dead from what Ive read.
Point is, in movie and comics, dead never seems to be final. Where there is a buck to be made a resurection is always possible. Jesus made a killing with his comeback.
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It's really easy with a book like x-men to kill off main characters. Mainly because you have a CAST of characters. It's not like killing off Batman or Superman... the X-men are a TEAM, and when you shed one, another takes that place.
“The martyr sacrifices themselves entirely in vain. Or rather not in vain; for they make the selfish more selfish, the lazy more lazy, the narrow narrower.” - Florence Nightingale
Dude, they killed the characters off since they wont be returning for x-men4.. Contracts are up.. Plus this one didnt have the Night Crawler guy from the second film. Theres alot of good ones who died, xavier, jean, rogue (cured), mystique (cured), cyclopse died, then some joined the cast.. Like angel. Storm survived but Hallie said she wouldnt be returning, so either x-men 4 will have her die in the beginning or just not show up like the nightcrawler dude. Sabertooth and Toad are dead and gone. Its just the way it is.
Halie wasn't going to return to this one.... because she had the monster hit franchise Catwoman!!! Yeah!!!
I am saddened the post prior to this one had no mention of newsgroups.
“The martyr sacrifices themselves entirely in vain. Or rather not in vain; for they make the selfish more selfish, the lazy more lazy, the narrow narrower.” - Florence Nightingale
Not having read the comics or seen the cartoons, I thought it was very fitting to kill off some of the people. It gave the movie a bettter spin than the feel good everyone's happy at the end movie.
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Almost went to see it but then everyone wanted to see the Da Stinky Toad so I said no thanks. May go see X men tomorrow though
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Well I can understand it if they are not making another sequel, but to kill off so many main characters in ONE movie seems a bit much!
I still do not agree that you have to kill off main characters in order for a movie or TV show to be decent. That just makes it that much harder to try to replace that character if and when you do another sequel.
People identify with main characters of a show. That is what makes it worth their while to watch it. But when you kill off the character they was watching the show for, then their attitude can be like... "why did I even take the time to watch that"?
Take Mel Gibson in Braveheart...he goes through all that fighting and survives...only to die at the end...I kinda felt like I was ripped off when I saw the end of that movie! Why? Because I wanted the character to survive..... you may say that that is unrealistic, but it is a SHOW for crying out loud! It does not have to BE EXACTLY like in real life! In real life....Mel Gibsons character probably NEVER would have survived the first BATTLE!
When writers kill off a main character and they are gone, then some watching the show in question for that character don't have anyone on that show to relate to anymore. That can lead to a backlash from fans also...like it did with the last matrix movie!
If a movie can spark that kind of emotion, it must be doing something right. The X-Men's world is full of death and thats what makes it more than the average hero comic. Take Superman, that fool can't die (well actally he has died before but it didn't last) whats he really risking by saving some poor suckers from a burning building. You never think, "Oh SHIT! Supes is gonna burn the fuck up!" because everyone knows you got to have a pocket full of Kryptonite for that ass jack to even get diarrhea (little known fact: SuperMrman gets explosive diarrhea around kryptonite. That part had to be cut out of the movies as it didn't go well with test audiences.)
On to my point, if there is one and I doubt there is. Its sad to see characters go that we have become attached too. It can be hard to accept and bum us out but at least we know how their lives ended. Not knowing can be even worse sometimes. Besides, I bet there are countless other adventures left untold about many of their lives. Hmmm, a little reading may be in order!
The X-men cast has been changing almost since day one. Its whats kept it strong and kept it fresh for all these years. Its good to see that Hollywood can let characters go and not worry about giving everyone a nice happy ending. There are plenty more characters they can use and I'm sure there are plenty of stars who would jump at the chance to play them. IMO though, 3 movies is enough.
Didn't I mention Neo, a few posts up? Uh huh, I think I did.
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Hard as ever and here to make you people believe...as long as there is one person to hold hope and dream...A GOD...will never die!
Well the xmen may be a different story from main comic book characters, but it just seems kinda final to have them die. I still do not think that it adds to a movie or series to have to get used to different characters all the time.Originally Posted by Mels_Smileys45
Because just when you are used to a character (In xmen especially), they change it on you. The "professor" that Patrick Stweart played was one of the characters that when they killed him off, I really said to myself...well that's it! They won't be doing another xmen.....why? Because he was the one that brought them all together and he was the one that made it all work. Without him, I don't think that Storm or Wolverine could take his place....no matter what kind of script they came up with.
There are simply some characters in a movie or TV show that when they die, the series seems to die with them. I think the professor was one of those characters.
He has died in the comic before only to come back a few years later. Super powered mutants tend to do that. The worse death to me was when Data was destroyed in the last Star Trek movie. I didn't see that one coming. So yes, I know how you feel but thats how the story goes. It is written so it is scripture.
Hard as ever and here to make you people believe...as long as there is one person to hold hope and dream...A GOD...will never die!
William wallace of Braveheart was a TRUE person, Mel Gibson may not of portrayed all the things that went on in the 3 hour movie, and may left some things out. But how he died at the end may resemble the way he actually died. He did die in 1305 by being hang, beheaded, torn apart.
http://www.scotsmart.com/info/histfigures/wallace.html
People and mutants have to die. I hate to see a movie and know with all their powers, they couldnt kill the other mutant. Why watch a fight if no one is going to win? Some mutants only got knocked out and may return for the next x-men, as well as introduce new ones. Every time i see cyclopse and storm, they get their ass handed to them, and then they get up and destroy the ones that knocked them down on their back. The only charachter i miss is mystique. She was badass. I hate to see mutants fight and no real champ. In comic books, no one ever gets destroyed, no one ever dies. It be the end of the story, or forcing writers to make up new people or try to get more people to read a comic book without the main charachters, it be hard for readers to do.
Well I seriuosly doubt that Bravehart would have survived the way Mel Gibson did in that movie if it was real life...I am not saying he was not a brave warrior, but fighting all those people at one time? I seriously doubt he could have survived as long as he did. Probably the battles in real life were not just him against so many, but rather him AND his warriors all battling together.
As far as people and mutants "having" to die? Well, you have your opinion and I have mine! I don't think it adds to a story at all to have main characthers die and then have to get "replaced" by some other character who has far less influence on the audience. That just makes it hard for people to get interested in the next movie because it could very well suck, because the characters are not as good as the original ones. And people WILL remember the death of main characters like DATA in the last star trek movie and it can affect sales. Of course, DATA, may make a comeback, because if people remember...all of Data's memory was uploaded into that other android that "looked" exactly like DATA...so a comeback could be possible there.
But with the Professor I simply do not see him being able to return.....he was blown to smitherens! That is kinda hard to write in a "comeback" for...unless as I said they do some kind of time warp...which is lame!
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