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    Top Canadian court turns down bid for extra tax on IPods, MP3 players

    Toronto — The fight over a levy on IPods and other digital music devices ended Thursday when the Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear any further arguments on the matter.

    That means there will be no levy applied to digital audio recorders such as Apple's popular IPod and IPod Shuffle as well as other MP3 players like IRiver.

    “Obviously we're disappointed. We felt it was self-evident that those products are sold for the purpose of copying music,” said David Basskin, of the Canadian Private Copying Collective (CPCC), the non-profit agency which collects tariffs on behalf of musicians and record companies.

    The group had wanted the court to overturn last year's Federal Court of Appeal decision that quashed the levy on the popular gadgets.

    The non-profit agency had been collecting the tariff – $2 for non-removable memory capacity of up to one gigabyte, $15 for one to 10 GBs, $25 for more than 10 GB – since December, 2003, through a tax built into the price of the devices.

    It stopped in December, 2004, when the Federal Court overturned the policy at the urging of retailers and manufacturers such as Future Shop, Apple Canada and Dell Computer Corporation of Canada.

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    “Obviously we're disappointed. We felt it was self-evident that those products are sold for the purpose of copying music,” said David Basskin, of the Canadian Private Copying Collective (CPCC), the non-profit agency which collects tariffs on behalf of musicians and record companies.
    That is totally retarded! Ipods are meant to use copied music ,yes,but it doesn't mean that the music was obtained illegally.You can copy your own personal cd collection which you purchased legally.

    This was a good judgment in my opinion.

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    Good ,we pay enough tax already with PST and GST.

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    no kidding!

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    What the hell is this world coming to? Are they that fuckin' desperate? What happened to being able to do what you want to do is this life? I say Fuck 'em All !!!!!!!

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    Talk about a country who has there shit together!! "impressed always" Except your beef exports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaining
    Talk about a country who has there shit together!! "impressed always" Except your beef exports.
    Lol,well,your cows would be mad too if they were forced to leave their homeland.

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    I would love it if courts actually used layman's speak and said what they meant. It could go something like:

    "We said no last time you fooking 'tards. Now piss off, grow up and grow some balls. Here's an idea. Why don't you try and actually earn your money by finding new markets instead of ripping your potential customers off. You twats!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCoggy
    I would love it if courts actually used layman's speak and said what they meant. It could go something like:

    "We said no last time you fooking 'tards. Now piss off, grow up and grow some balls. Here's an idea. Why don't you try and actually earn your money by finding new markets instead of ripping your potential customers off. You twats!"
    LOL yea we need a judge from Newfoundland or Nova scotia too tell it like it realy is.1 rep point for you MrCroggy.

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    Contrary to what all the posters have been saying, this decision is bad for file sharing. Levies like the one in question have formed the legal basis for decisions by Candian courts and regulatory authorities that file sharing is legal there. Is it really unreasonable to pay $2-$15 to artists with every media player or even PC? The main problem with the Candian system is that they split the revenue according to airplay, not according to a fair measure like download or usage counts (which admitedly, is complicated to do securely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pde
    Contrary to what all the posters have been saying, this decision is bad for file sharing. Levies like the one in question have formed the legal basis for decisions by Candian courts and regulatory authorities that file sharing is legal there. Is it really unreasonable to pay $2-$15 to artists with every media player or even PC? The main problem with the Candian system is that they split the revenue according to airplay, not according to a fair measure like download or usage counts (which admitedly, is complicated to do securely).

    Yes it is unreasonable....I've been reading this over and over and I STILL CAN'T FIND YOUR POINT in this statement.......
    CAPITAL punishment for infringement is a CAPITAList's dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pde
    Contrary to what all the posters have been saying, this decision is bad for file sharing. Levies like the one in question have formed the legal basis for decisions by Candian courts and regulatory authorities that file sharing is legal there. Is it really unreasonable to pay $2-$15 to artists with every media player or even PC? The main problem with the Candian system is that they split the revenue according to airplay, not according to a fair measure like download or usage counts (which admitedly, is complicated to do securely).
    Your forgeting that under the Commercial Radio Policy, 35 per cent of all music aired each week on all AM and FM stations must be Canadian. In addition, 35 per cent of music broadcast between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. Monday through Friday must consist of Canadian content.
    French-language radio stations are required to ensure that 65 per cent of the vocal music they broadcast each week, and 55 per cent of vocal music broadcast between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. Monday through Friday, is in the French language.

    Seven per cent of music aired on ethnic radio stations each week must be Canadian.


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    What happens too all the money they collected from the levy from before?

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