HD-DVD players will only play DRM'ed files.

**awehr** · July 21st, 2005, 07:29 PM

Ed felten has just detailed how HD-DVD's AACS protection system is required to refuse to play discs which don't have hollywood's watermark

In other words.. this means the players for HD-DVD's will reject everything else... including personal home videos of the grandkids, amateur films, project films, mp3's (current dvd players support that), and anything else one might place on a recordable HD-DVD .. (including that scourge of the hollywood fat cats..*gasp*.. personal backup copies)

To avoid multiple posts.. I invite anyone in the legal forums to provide a more in depth analysis as to weather or not this particular restriction can be legally removed by a third party patch. It doesn't seem to be protecting hollywood's content in the way an access control would.. i'm wandering if such a tool to remove only that restriction would be legal. (To me this seems like more of a violation of the dmca on hollywood's part if it remains in place.. as hollywood is now interfering with access to YOUR copyrighted works..)

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=869

**.:sp00ky:.** · July 21st, 2005, 07:50 PM

Just dont buy one then simple as, their gonna fuck their selfs up the arse anyways having so many formats that you have to have a player that plays that format only just like them blueray disk thingys.

and while im ranting these new disks are pointless for movies, dvd are fine they have a tough enough time trying to fill 4+/9+ gig with shitty extras i never watch "exclusive interveiw with the lady that knew the man whos dog was in the film as an extra" ect they expect everyone to go out and buy new players and then buy all the films they just bought on dvd again just cos they wont play on the new players PSHHH!

**Digital Bliss** · July 21st, 2005, 08:13 PM

meh..... lets see how far this will go

**the great one** · July 21st, 2005, 08:20 PM

I guess I won't be buying a HD-DVD player.

**joey tribiani** · July 21st, 2005, 11:17 PM

Crap.....I just got one.

**origin** · July 21st, 2005, 11:32 PM

what is the result you are wondering? no one will buy into this crap including myself. nice try lol

l8

**Auggie2k** · July 21st, 2005, 11:40 PM

I see what they're aiming for... but thats crap! No mp3 or home vids, it will never work out!

**DwarfBaby** · July 22nd, 2005, 12:41 AM

First off anything can and will be cracked. Second people will protest if they can't play their home movies. And Third if a program can strip the DRM from a file why can't it put it back on the copied version. Therefore you have two disks with the DRM but since it can still be copied using the above stated method the DRM is still useless. Make as many copies as you like regardless of the DRM method used.

**broadwayrock** · July 22nd, 2005, 02:14 AM

I dont think HD-DVD will be cracked for quite a while. Unless there is a piece of software that allows HD-DVD playback on a pc they will have a tough time cracking it.

Example: it wasnt until WinDVD could play DVD-A that some sort of crack was created. SACD still stands uncracked, this is because the makers do not allow any software playback at all.

**Mels_Smileys45** · July 22nd, 2005, 02:52 AM

Everyone will buy one because the world if full of morons who don't know what the hell DRM is or does.

**meyou123** · July 22nd, 2005, 03:25 AM

I think if enough people get screwed they are gonna have a backlash like in the days of the "copy protected" cd. For example: Joe Blow buys a HD-DVD player to play his grandmas home movies and he wants to show his kids....he finds out the copy protection won't let him....takes it back to best buy, wal mart or any other big chain where he got it and gets a refund. If they have enough of these come back....they might change their tune!

**Siskabush** · July 22nd, 2005, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by awehr

Ed felten has just detailed how HD-DVD's AACS protection system is required to refuse to play discs which don't have hollywood's watermark

In other words.. this means the players for HD-DVD's will reject everything else... including personal home videos of the grandkids, amateur films, project films, mp3's (current dvd players support that), and anything else one might place on a recordable HD-DVD .. (including that scourge of the hollywood fat cats..*gasp*.. personal backup copies)

To avoid multiple posts.. I invite anyone in the legal forums to provide a more in depth analysis as to weather or not this particular restriction can be legally removed by a third party patch. It doesn't seem to be protecting hollywood's content in the way an access control would.. i'm wandering if such a tool to remove only that restriction would be legal. (To me this seems like more of a violation of the dmca on hollywood's part if it remains in place.. as hollywood is now interfering with access to YOUR copyrighted works..)

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=869

All the more reason to support the alternative Blu ray.

How retarded are the corporations that back HD-DVD?

**WE_DELIVER** · July 22nd, 2005, 04:31 AM

I dont think anyone is going to produce a player that only plays "official" dvds and refuses to play authored-at-home content. Its stupid and its VERY UNLIKELY to happen.

Think about it.

A corporation is not going to close the doors on all the products(PC writers/burners, Media) that could be sold to give the consumer an ability to author their own DVDs.

**ABC123666** · July 22nd, 2005, 04:47 AM

What about foreign movies (anime is an obvios example) which dont go through hollywood? They make up about 90% of my dvd collection, seeing as most things coming out of holywood are total crap. Also, alot of people (well, mainly geeks :P ) build their own home theatre system. If they cant get an optical drive to play hd-dvd's, they'l probably rather download the content than get a hd-dvd player. This is a stupid anti-piracy meature. It would be too easy for someone to record it through digital or analoge means, then put it up on the net.

**shawners** · July 22nd, 2005, 05:21 AM

Theres a work around. .Its called reflashing the Bios..They will have it on the net, burn to cd or dvd and reset and update the firmware.. ANy players made have to have the ability to update , since disk will always change.