Watch internet TV over p2p torrent in realtime

ABC_thellookoflove · April 19th, 2005, 02:43 AM

http://www.TV-free.org

Internet TV is Open and Independent

APRIL 13, 2005: Announcing a new platform for internet television and video. Anyone can broadcast full-screen video to thousands of people at virtually no cost, using BitTorrent technology. Viewers get intuitive, elegant software to subscribe to channels, watch video, and organize their video library. The project is non-profit, open source, and built on open standards. Today we're announcing the project and releasing our current sourcecode. The software is launching in June.
We're working to cover both sides of the TV equation:

DTV
A desktop video player application that brings internet TV to the fullscreen. Subscribe to channels: videos download in the background and the player notifies you when they're ready to watch.

Broadcast Machine
A video publishing tool built on Blog Torrent. Publish fullscreen video to thousands with virtually no bandwidth cost. Simple, flexible, installs on a website in seconds. Easier than most blogging software.

Developer Resources

* Sourceforge Page
* Discussion List
* Development Blog (rss feed)
* Development Docs and Wiki

Developers: Check out the code and get involved.
Sourcecode is available now. DTV is written in Python and will be available for Windows, OS X, and Linux. A cross-platform codebase and early code for the OS X frontend are posted on the sourceforge site. We'd love to have you join the developer list to stay updated or join in the development: Signup for the discussion list.

Watch TV

We are building a free and open-source desktop television application tentatively known as DTV. Subscribe to a channel and video will download in the background (Channels are RSS feeds, so there's already dozens of compatible channels out there). When a new video arrives, DTV will let you know. It's that simple.

And it goes further: you can turn off auto-download for channels that you want to browse-- pick things that look interesting and they'll go into the download queue. To keep disk space under control, TiVO-like caching will expire videos after you've watched them to make room for new stuff. Keep anything you like and build a video library. Integrated donating via PayPal lets you support creators directly.
Publish Video

RSS and Bittorrent create the opportunity for anyone to make a television channel with full-screen video that can be watched by thousands or millions of people, with no broadcasting costs. Finally, real competition in television and truly independent television becoming the mainstream.

We're building a video broadcasting tool for your website called 'Broadcast Machine'. This free web software is built on top of our open-source project Blog Torrent. It makes video publishing with BitTorrent (or http) as simple as attaching a file to an email. You can choose to add extensive metadata. And the channels it creates are RSS feeds, so the standard is open to anyone.

**Mels_Smileys45** · April 19th, 2005, 02:48 AM

About fucking time!

**Ne007** · April 19th, 2005, 08:30 AM

I'll have to check this out.....just in time....these little blue cards won't be working too much longer.

**rainbowdemon** · April 19th, 2005, 03:05 PM

This could be very nice!! Thanks.

ABC_thellookoflove · April 26th, 2005, 05:22 AM

Netscape pioneers launch free content network
Published: April 25, 2005, 9:00 PM PDT
By John Borland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
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Netscape pioneers Mike Homer and Marc Andreessen are back on the start-up scene, launching a TiVo-like online network for distributing and viewing public TV, radio and grassroots media.

The free service, called the Open Media Network, is aimed initially at letting traditional public broadcasters and independent filmmakers distribute their work on the Net. But it will also allow ordinary computer users to publish their files.

Part TiVo, part BitTorrent file swapping, the network puts publishers' content into a peer-to-peer distribution network that could help lower bandwidth costs substantially. The service then creates a TV-like program directory that potential viewers can use to find and subscribe to automatic downloads of individual shows.

In the process, it's also serving as an advertisement for Homer's main company, content distribution service Kontiki, which provides the network's technology.

"We're trying to create a free consumer service that would allow the viewing of public service content on the Internet," said Homer, who is chairman of the Open Media Foundation, which is backing the project, as well as Kontiki's chairman. "Right now there is no easy way for consumers to (publish and view) these things. It has not been a consumer phenomenon, it's been an early adopter phenomenon."

The Open Media Network is one of several tools that have recently emerged aimed at letting people publish or find large files online, while organizing content into a familiar TV-like format.

Podcasting has allowed radio stations and ordinary people to publish or subscribe to downloadable audio shows for months.
Show-and-tell

Peer-to-peer activists Downhill Battle recently released software called "BlogTorrent," aimed at helping people to post large files on their blogs or Web sites using the BitTorrent technology to help distribute files. A Canadian student has developed a program called Videora that lets people find and subscribe to video content online, including television shows.

Homer's new venture is being launched under the auspices of a nonprofit called the Open Media Foundation, which also counts Andreessen on its board of advisers. The foundation is licensing Kontiki's technology as an ordinary customer, Homer said.

Unlike the anarchic character of most peer-to-peer services, it will be centrally managed using Kontiki's technology, so that any copyright works being distributed without permission can be removed from the system.

It will support the delivery of content wrapped in digital-rights management and add a payment system so publishers can charge for their work. The foundation will take a small cut of transactions to pay for its operations.

For now, the service is free both for publishers and potential viewers. Early content available through the service will include shows from WYNC public radio in New York, Witness.org human rights-focused video alerts and independent films from Cinequest, among others.

A Kontiki rival, Red Swoosh, has also previously offered to let noncommercial Web publishers take advantage of its peer-to-peer-based content-delivery services for free.

http://news.com.com/Netscape+pioneer...l?tag=nefd.top

ABC_thellookoflove · April 30th, 2005, 03:21 AM

Dear Cyberistas,
we come closer to release-date.

Our Strategy is to provide at least 50 very attractive Tv channels from the beginning. So lets test the TV-Publishing modules today and when we are ready and you are trained we can open the gates and let the people come in & watch, what you have to show..

Today we test 2 of the 4 modules:

1. TV-Publisher, you need a Tv card!! I will watch your transmission quality remotly.

2. P2P-Network monitoring with heavy traffic test. Boring not much to see, but necessary to have lot participants and long time using.

Details, Instructions and download in the basecamp:

http://www.tvoon.de/ctv/userquotes/basecamp/index.html

CU today 14.00 GTM+1

**Dave_Man** · April 30th, 2005, 06:58 AM

its just like Kedora.net which already works for quite some time.
Has good shows too...and its open source...
http://kedora.net/

**Vietfobster** · April 30th, 2005, 10:50 AM

this sounds a lot like coolstreaming...where the more users there are, the better the video stream

sounds good :D

**ourthing2** · April 30th, 2005, 11:35 AM

Anything that uses bittorrent won't be able to "stream" or "watch in real time"
Thats not how BT protocol works.

videos download in the background and the player notifies you when they're ready to watch.

Streamerp2p is able to use peer to peer and it's streamable but it lacks video content though as most streams are audio. jeepers tv used to stream with it.

http://tvtad.com/ uses rss and bittorrent to let you "subscribe" to shows and download them automatically

**ivand67** · April 30th, 2005, 01:34 PM

This is total crap, IMO.

These shows are mostly going to suck. TV torrents of real shows that air on TV is way better, and who gives a rat's ass about streaming TV anyway? I download my shows at night, then watch them whenever the hell I want.

Just my take on it, no offense to anyone here or anyone working on this.

**ourthing2** · April 30th, 2005, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by ivand67

TV torrents of real shows that air on TV is way better

tvtad downloads those, shows like 24, desperate housewives, ER and all the rest.
you must not have checked the link

**Afn** · April 30th, 2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by ivand67

This is total crap, IMO.

These shows are mostly going to suck. TV torrents of real shows that air on TV is way better, and who gives a rat's ass about streaming TV anyway? I download my shows at night, then watch them whenever the hell I want.

Just my take on it, no offense to anyone here or anyone working on this.

streaming is only good for LIVE events, everything else is better as a download.

ABC_thellookoflove · April 30th, 2005, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Afn

streaming is only good for LIVE events, everything else is better as a download.

thats why a stream shoudl and can be built out of hashes in a playlist,
you have delay until the broadcast for the specific topic has ended,
but then the file coudl be hashed and a videorecoreder can be used for time shift with a hash.
So converting streams in a p2p network will be the future and for each recording cou have a hash.
either users can sent cpatured streams into p2p or the broadcaster itself, as shoutcast is already doing with playlists, which are playing hashable files each after each one.

**Afn** · May 1st, 2005, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by ABC_thellookoflove

thats why a stream shoudl and can be built out of hashes in a playlist,
you have delay until the broadcast for the specific topic has ended,
but then the file coudl be hashed and a videorecoreder can be used for time shift with a hash.
So converting streams in a p2p network will be the future and for each recording cou have a hash.
either users can sent cpatured streams into p2p or the broadcaster itself, as shoutcast is already doing with playlists, which are playing hashable files each after each one.

The problem with streaming is low quality. If a live event is streamed LIVE, with software to download before you started streaming, and at high quality, then streaming is useful (to me), otherwise I think it is a waste of time.

Someday, when the hype of internet 2 becomes a consumer reality, then streaming programming, using decentalized peers to support millions of users may have the quality and functionality to rival dvd.

The advantage to the broadcaster or content provider is little real bandwith cost.

Quality of streaming will increase as bandwith increases. When that happens DRM and other corporation nasties will make the technology a waste.

ABC_thellookoflove · May 2nd, 2005, 05:14 PM

hi

there are many initiatives to watch TV over p2p

see http://Www.tv-free.org

or www.cybertelly.com

but only one is working already

http://Www.peercast.org

isntall the prog, right mouseclick on the icon and then advanced / settings, choose
one channel with WMV !!!

mediaplayer opens and ypu can watch greek tv
or others

why is this not working with winamp ?
MS mediaplayer opens, but it is working fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TV p2p is already working, we can stream every other station in

just contribute!

THE QUALITY IS 149 KB PER SECOND AND IT IS QUITE WELL FPOR THIS GREEK MEGACOSMOS CHANNEL PLEASE TEST IT OUT

PERCAST RULEZ !!!