Ants version 1.0.0 (finaly)

**tsafa1** · April 4th, 2005, 06:59 PM

Ants is finaly starting to mature a little bit. Most major issues have been addressed. Supernodes working well so far, scaling issues have been corrected, optional direct connections in place, we moved to a more stable IRC channel with this version , irc.accessirc.net

speed is very good if sources stay on line. i often hit down speeds up to 70 kB/s and up speeds up to 20 kB/s

We will test this for a day before Gwren makes an installer and puts it on the source forge. so run it and post you stats.

get here:
http://www.myjavaserver.com/~gwren/Ants/antsp2p.jnlp

keep an eye out for any crashes after long up times

**Shareaza2005** · April 4th, 2005, 07:29 PM

now that it's finished, let's get one of those names that were thought up for Ants, in here.

**mp3MaStA88** · April 4th, 2005, 08:29 PM

what is different in this release?
and how have capabilities changed?

**Abyss00** · April 4th, 2005, 09:06 PM

Ants 1.0.0
Compressed: 5% DL 4% UL
Total Traffic: 420mb DL 482mb UL
Own Traffic 0mb DL 70mb UL
Clock: 7:45
Threads: 90

**Rajarius** · April 4th, 2005, 10:11 PM

So what are there, 50 people running Ants?

**Undercurrent** · April 4th, 2005, 11:13 PM

Things seem to be working very well in the latest version. Ive also been getting downloads peaking at 115Kbs, however, they dont seem to be continuous. The downloads will stop every now and then. For me, this isnt a huge problem. I dont care if it takes a day to download an album or movie as long as I can get it annonymously!!! Right now i think the biggest problem facing Ants are the problems that come with any new network, lack of content!!! I know i can get what i want with Ants, if it is on the network. However, there lies the problem, we have a low user base. I know its early on in the life of the network, and only time will tell if Ants is will gather the user base need for it to truley be on the level of 2nd generatoin p2p applications. Hopefully we can get people to use Ants. To me this is the biggest issue facing Ants. Most everything else is in order. How do we convince people to sacrifice download speeds for anonymity? Which brings on the question of, Does anyone Care?

**Abyss00** · April 4th, 2005, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rajarius

So what are there, 50 people running Ants?

Ants is still in beta testing the point is not to get a lot of users, the point is to make the program better and work out the bugs.

Originally Posted by ABC_thellookoflove

IP adresses are ashown in non-anon modus

Where are you seeing the IP addresses?

Biggest problem I see with this version is the high CPU usage.

**tsafa1** · April 5th, 2005, 02:12 PM

Gw found a few minor bugs and will clear up today. He found somethng that was limiting traffic too and will fix. Stats also a bit off cause he found that they do not include direct connect traffic. He will fix that too.

**Abyss00** · April 8th, 2005, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by tsafa1

He found somethng that was limiting traffic too and will fix.

Doesn't seem to be fixed as of 1.0.0 - 0.5.3 :(

**xrobot** · April 8th, 2005, 10:52 AM

Oh... finally we can see Ants 1.0 in 2005.

**tsafa1** · April 9th, 2005, 12:43 PM

version 1.0.0 portocol 5.4 looks good. I have good uploads and downloads. Plus i see more super nodes.

**Abyss00** · April 10th, 2005, 12:46 AM

Yeah, a lot better then portocol 5.3

**xrobot** · April 10th, 2005, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Undercurrent

we have a low user base. How do we convince people to sacrifice download speeds for anonymity? Which brings on the question of, Does anyone Care?

Most likely the best chance for Ants to grow up had been passed. Because "time" just tell us that more people don't want to sacrifice download speed, and they all still use Bittorrent and other existing network with large user base.

On the internet, everything news spread fast. I mean if Ants is demanded, it should already popular among p2p users even it is buggy and in beta stage. But it don't come up like that. As the case of the Qnext program, it even promoted on the official SUN jave page(www.jave.com), so what?

Ants developers MUST give speed at least comparable to existing network. Also, support for large file(in GB) have to be implement better. Hashing a file all the day is terrible!

**Abyss00** · April 10th, 2005, 11:13 AM

From Freenet we learn that there will always be a demand for anonymous programs no matter how slow they are. Although it is not on the same level as popular programs.

From Winny we learn that as laws become more anti-p2p, then anonymous programs become more popular.

From BitTorrent we learn that there is a large group of people the demand speed above all else and that law suits only serve to make it more widely known and therefore more popular.

From Kazaa we learn that there is a large group of people out there as dumb as rocks.

Ants' fate is more linked to the outcome of the Supreme Court case about p2p then it is about speed.

**xrobot** · April 11th, 2005, 01:41 AM

Also, too emphasis on Ants is a Java program is no good. Although the java web start installation seem advance and convenient for development, for the general end-users(who don't notice java or c++) will associate the fear of forced installing spy-ware on the net.

I suggest the Ants developers should focus on general downloadable installer, instead of java web start, as the main method to spead the software.(even remove it for developer or advance user only).

Azureus is one of the very successful case in suppressing the effect of the critism on Java. It promote the software feature, plug-in in the main context. JRE is just need to mentioned when you want to install Azureus, as a system requirement.