Ants is going to give users the option to make direct connections

**tsafa1** · April 2nd, 2005, 06:33 PM

There have been a few rummors floating around and i asked Gwren to clear it up.

First rummor is that Ants is going to connect to new Java Mule- False

Second rummor Ants is going to allow optional direct connections - True

This is what Gwren said:

No conenction to jmule will be implemneted, but it will become possible its coding.
Infact I'll code a system to have real direct connections among couples of nodes that require this.
THis will NOT prevent anonymity of the whole net, but only of every node that decides to suscribe the
"direct connection" service. This make sense... infact in our net we all accept the banal thing that is
you reveal your ip you are crap, you have compromised your anonymity but we (the other 29 nodes) are safe,
cuz revealing your ip you don't compromise our situation...
So what I'm going to implement is just an IP field in query messages, if it is empty the net will work as usual,
but if you put your ip inside it (compromizing your anonimity) you will be able to do direct connections with
other nodes available to reveal their ip too.

You can get an alpha verision here:
http://www.myjavaserver.com/~gwren/Ants/antsp2pdc.jnlp

This verision will not connect to the versions, this is only an issolated test version to help Gwren see how well it works and debug.

**tsafa1** · April 3rd, 2005, 04:10 AM

I don't see what the problem is. You do not make a direct connection unless both the uploader and the downloader BOTH choose to make a direct connection for a particular file. If you don't like the idea, don't click the option on. This is an alpha version, so in the bata version perhaps gwren can put a pop up that asks "do you realy want to compromise your security"

This feture is good because when ants grows some people may just want to share home movies or their political views or something. In that case they do not need to be anonymous. Also in the current enviornment, the RIAA/MPAA lawsuits are largly ineffective against individules but the seeders of prerelease movies are very much at risk. So in this case the Seeders of prereleases can use the anonymous fetures of Ants to spread a movie out to a dozen or so people anonymously. Those people can then choose to share anonymously or non-anonymously.

The point here is that more choices are better then less choices, do whatever is right for you.

**Abyss00** · April 3rd, 2005, 11:24 AM

DC is good for two friends that trust each other to be able to trade files.
Now they will be able to do this without switching to a different p2p program.
Then when they are done they just switch Ants back to anonymous mode.

**tsafa1** · April 3rd, 2005, 01:07 PM

The box is grayed out because you have to stop ants to switch it on or off.

**tsafa1** · April 3rd, 2005, 01:28 PM

Gwren has published a more detailed explanition about where he is going with this:

http://antsp2p.sourceforge.net/Why%2...ion%20born.pdf

I think this has been previously disckues as "taking a flight to the Ant hill" The general concept is that non-anonymous nodes can lay down some sort of pathway for anonymous noes to run over. This is still an idea in development.

**tsafa1** · April 4th, 2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by ABC_thellookoflove

the fist chapter describes, that ants dc can be coded to connect to jmule, right ?

Gwren said that now with the optional dircet connections it would be posible to write some code to bridge Ants with Jmule. but that has not been done yet. But posible in the future.

This would be a good way to seed files into the emule network anonymously. MPAA seems interested in going after the seeders right now. This potentialy may add a level of anonmity to jmule, cause it really confuses things for people trying to track people there. Confusion works in the favor of the p2p users :;)

**notbob** · April 4th, 2005, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by ABC_thellookoflove

fine, first the IP adresse shown in DC-Ants anonymous modus must be deleted out.
then we need a time range, how long it takes to fix all bugs in dc-ants.
then we need a decision, if ants and Dc-ants stay seperate or if they have one installer.
Then gwren is able to have time to look at jmule.sf.net
The decision has to be made, if 1,.0 is released with jmule or if Dc-ants stays blank and clean.
I think a blank and clean dc.ants version is bad for 1,.0 release.
IF, then take all: Frankel, Merkur, Stokes, Cohen. So in this case a blank or unplugged DC-Ants would left Merkur out and as i know Gwren, he could not irgnor the option to rule the worlds biggest p2p network...

how about you just shut the fuck up already?