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Thread: Can I trade you Britney for Christina?

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    Can I trade you Britney for Christina?

    I'm curious about something.

    Suppose a girl goes over to her friend's house with her CD collection for a slumber party. Her friend looks over her collection and say's "I love this old Britney Spears album. I'll trade you this Christina Aquilera for it." They make the trade.

    Did they just break the law?

    I guess what I'm asking is, are 1 for 1 trades of albums legal?

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    I wouldn't think so... they're retail albums correct? as in, stacy buys a britney cd, jenny buys a christina cd... then they swap. if so, then i don't think it is, becuase there's no copying involved, and no trail to follow as to who legally paid for which album... but they wouldn't care anyway as long as someone bought it, and that there is no copying or distributing going on. all they want is money
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    According to what I have read there is no legal repercutions as this would be protected under bartering for legal products as CRLOCKY explained...

    Same thing goes for movies this is totally legal it is even legal for you to swap movies to watch providing that they are legitamate copies of the movies.

    There could really never be no law prohibiting these actions because it would cause too much of a problem...

    And if you really want to be technical you could defeat such a law by simply selling them to eachother for 1cent just like an ebay, pawnshop, or yardsale resale.

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    Interesting though I have found no solid evidence showing weather the trading of music videos is considered to be piracy or not...

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    as long as you trade a legal copy for a legal copy there is nothing illegal about that , nothing at all ...........


    if you trade a burned copy for a burned copy thats illegal

    as long as whats in the trade is a legal copy then its like trading sisters for sex ( as long as they are over 18 )
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    so... in theory... if you sent one legal copy of a file... thus it is removed from your computer in the exchange, not just copied, and exchange for another purchased good or file, which would be removed from the other person's possesion... this "file trade" in which legitimate property was truly exchanged... would be legal?
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    UBD, thats one of the most crazy questions Ive seen it a day or two. Once you pay for a legit CD you could just give it to a bum on the street or sell it on ebay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Excrement_Cranium
    so... in theory... if you sent one legal copy of a file... thus it is removed from your computer in the exchange, not just copied, and exchange for another purchased good or file, which would be removed from the other person's possesion... this "file trade" in which legitimate property was truly exchanged... would be legal?

    your talking files there , guess that would depend on the user agreement - since some software says non-transferable in the agreement



    but where talking about a tangible piece of plastic here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undying Wizard NHD
    as long as you trade a legal copy for a legal copy there is nothing illegal about that , nothing at all ...........


    if you trade a burned copy for a burned copy thats illegal

    as long as whats in the trade is a legal copy then its like trading sisters for sex ( as long as they are over 18 )
    so that means if i want 1 million videos from you u will give it to me free of charge?
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    If you give someone a CD which you obtained through legal method, or give them files which you downloaded from a service such as iTunes or Napster, it's perfectly legal. The problem occurs when the artist (or rather, mostly the record label) hasn't been paid for the works.

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    hehe i like your mudvayne avatar infringer....

    about the question..what if you burned it onto your pc then traded away the real cd.....
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    Thanks .: (ahh forget the damn period and colon)...thanks spooky. You asked the first question that popped into my mind when I read the first post.

    While it is completely legal to make a backup copy of your works, what happens to that copy should you trade/sell the original merchandise? For some reason, it would seem that the powers that be would want you to delete the file(s). In the case above, we all know that just wouldn't happen. That is, unless the owner got tired of or no longer cared about the artist. I suppose if the (legal) collection is big enough, you could just say you forgot about it should you ever get investigated/sued.

    Now here's another question. Do they have to be similar in price? Can you trade the new Killswitch Engage double CD The End of Heartache for The CD Single of Metallica's "Until it Sleeps?" Is it an audio product for audio product (KsE has a DVD with it), or what? Do one or both artists get "screwed?"

    Thanks for bringing this up UDB. And dump the girl, she's too young if she's listening to that music. :;)
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    ok so is used cd store illegal then since they make money out of used cd from wich the production company is not making money out of
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    ok so is used cd store illegal then since they make money out of used cd from wich the production company is not making money out of
    The easiest way to put it.

    You buy the rights for one copy of the content once you give that or trade that away you are loosing your rights to the content so any copies that you now hold without holding the original material may not be traded, sold, given away... You can not trade sell or give away more then one copy of the content if you did not buy more then one copy of the content.

    In doing such a thing it is deemed an illegal activity.

    BTW thanks for the kind words Spooky another fan of there music maybe? ;)

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